(FT3) UPDATE: OM-D with two stop (JPEG) improvement over the E-P3?
Image on top: The OM4-TI (here on eBay) is the one that looks very close to the OM-D
A new source (Thanks!) had the chance to test the new OM-D camera. He says “the 12800 ISO performance looks similar to the E-P3′s 3200 ISO”! Please take that rumor with a grain of salt because this is a subjective impression that needs to be verified with a real test. But if his “impression” is correct than this is a huge news! A two stop improvement is something almost unbelievable. All I know for sure form my top sources is that ISO goes up to 25.600. I hope my other sources can confirm or deny that rumor soon. The same new source said: “The effect of the stabilization can be seen though the new viewfinder in the OM-D“.
UPDATE: The sources just sent me some more bits: “The 12800 ISO comparison was with on JPEG, obviously, there is no RAW support. But interesting, there was no noticeable colour & chroma noise in the shadows, colour noise was very noticeable with the E-P3 at 3200.“. I guess he is reading your comments so feel free to write your questions!
In summary: (FT5) 16 Megapixel sensor with High Dynamic Range and super video quality and TruePic VI engine. It looks similar to OM4-TI (here on eBay) (FT3) 2 stop better noise performance than current PEN cameras. Sound all good for now!
One more thing: The final camera name starts with the usual “E” letter. The “OM-D” is the new camera line name like it is with the “PEN”.
Message to one of my best sources: Is it possible to have one more piece of image of the OM-D?
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Rumors classification explained (FT= FourThirds):
FT1=1-20% chance the rumor is correct
FT2=21-40% chance the rumor is correct
FT3=41-60% chance the rumor is correct
FT4=61-80% chance the rumor is correct
FT5=81-99% chance the rumor is correct
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Boooo!
4 months ago |E-D1?
Agent00soul
4 months ago |Well, since the “P” in “E-P1″ presumably stands for “Pen”, it should be “E-OM1″ for the new camera.
MJr
4 months ago |I don’t like it. But it’s probably true. People will say EOM like the common mistake EP-1. Oh well it’s just a label. And OLYMPUS on the front is all it needs.
Miroslav
4 months ago |If the first digital PEN was Olympus PEN E-P1, then the first digital OM should be Olympus OM-D E-O1. Sounds stupid.
Olympus OM-5D would be much better, but “there has to na ‘E’ in the name”…
bean5y
4 months ago |My bet is on E-M1!
lnqo-M
4 months ago |Yes the is a M43 camera, not a FF so E-M1 look good.
MJr
4 months ago |E-M1 does look best indeed, with the history in mind.
steve
4 months ago |How about OM-D1.
MJr
4 months ago |“The final camera name starts with the usual “E” letter”
MJr
4 months ago |What would make most sense:
E-P1 – for Electronic PEN 1. Group name Olympus PEN
E-M1 – for Electronic OM 1. Group name Olympus OM-D
Original OM was named M1 in the first place.
The additional D for Digital behind OM (but not behind PEN) seems a little redundant tho.
Lars Beduhn
4 months ago |That is exactly what I said well before the name ‘OM-D’ cropped up in the first place. E-M1 would make the most sense. But whether Oly thinks the same remains to be seen.
Miroslav
4 months ago |E-M1 sounds OK, but will Leica object again, 40 years after they stopped Oly from using M1 name?
lnqo-M
4 months ago |E-M1 can well go. To the is not only M1, and the is also long time have run after Leica stop produce M1.
Miroslav
4 months ago |Yeah, but it’s not M1 they’d worry about, it’s E-Mx naming scheme. What happens when Olympus gets to E-M9 and Leica users confuse it with their own M9
?
It’s waaay better if first OM-D is called E-X1
. There’s something in that X…
lnqo-M
4 months ago |LOL
Ht
4 months ago |Could be EO5
bli
4 months ago |E-OMGx1?
Gabriel
4 months ago |Nice name, there is also those ‘X’ letter and ’1′ digit, like all recent camera
G.W. BUSH
4 months ago |two stops over the e-p3… well the e-p3 ihas an ooollldd sensor..
bilgy_no1
4 months ago |Sounds good so far, but is there any further info on the new adapter and 43 lens support?
jacek
4 months ago |Well we already read that “video quality is much better than…” and now we read that “two steps improvement over…” what about “it’s so awesome and new and better and great and OMG OMG OMG”. Expect huge dissapointment when they will release camera, which will never meet these expectations. This is same story as with E-5.
admin
4 months ago |I hope it is not. really!
Berneck1
4 months ago |No more leaked image pieces?
Edgaras Anisimenko
4 months ago |well, this is the same what I thought about for some time, but E-5 had a different thing – too many rumors before it came out and high hopes. Now we get F5 facts about new model and they look pretty promising. All we need is a new sensor to show a different road that Olympus will be or is going, since being with Panasonic gave too much negative aspects then positive. Also, it made Olympus wait for new sensor and Panasonic commanded what DR and ISO Olympus will get even with after tweaking the sensor they were given. I still believe in Olympus and I will be trying it out on March 4 here in UK
babbit
4 months ago |It was the E5 rumors from months before it was released that was overhyped and inaccurate. Many were just speculation that people wanted to believe. The rumors from the week or 2 before release were accurate with what it finally ended up being. Considering we’re less than 2 weeks away from the OM release and that the rumors are based from people having actually seen and used the camera, there’s a lot higher possibility these are all accurate.
caver3d
4 months ago |Yeah, and the whiners complained about the E-5 when it was released. But lo and behold, it turned out to be Oly’s best DSLR and, quite frankly, proved to hold its own against the competition. I have one and I love it. Oly made the right move “evolving” the DSLR E-X series, rather than try to scrap it and quickly pump out a different design just to placate the whiners. Meanwhile, their R&D quietly and methodically worked on a new system to compliment the E-X. Oly has done it right, and the OM-D will fit in nicely under the E-X (and, yes, there will be an E-7 which will benefit from the development of the OM-D).
Pei
4 months ago |No, E-5 doesn’t hold up against the competition. D7000 announced a day after E-5 whipped it around like an 80 lb sophomore. E-5 has been utterly outclassed by D7000 and K-r everyone knows 4/3 is dead.
DonParrot
4 months ago |Quite obviously, you don’t know whatr you are talking about. The D7000 is just no alternative to the E-5 sand the Pentax camp unfortunately lacks the fast zooms. Nonetheless, I have to admit that the K5 is a fantastic camera.
But in the end, it’s the package that counts. And here, the E-5 with the HG and SHG Zuikos is second to none.
Gabriel
4 months ago |Next rumor is about fps, expect 16fps with illimited buffer
CRB
4 months ago |Even if i do not believe…that would explain (i think) the DR claim so far….
JF
4 months ago |high iso noise is different from DR improvement. MAximum dynamic range is measured at base iso, so 200 here and corresponds to the maximum and the minimum luminance value that the sensor can measure. So this rumor has nothing to do with DR improvement.
Olaf
4 months ago |In my practical experience low noice on High ISO and large DR are usually closely connected!
zinanga
4 months ago |the Sony a77 sensor (24Megapixels) has large DR but a lot of noise in High ISO as said in DXOMark and self experience
Fraenzken
4 months ago |That’s not right. DR is ratio between the max amount of light the sensor can record (which is a function of well capacity of the sensels) and the amount of light that leads to a signal-to-noise ratio exceeding a certain value (e.g. 1). So, a two-stop improvement in the noise department leads ceteris paribus to a two-stop improvement in DR.
Eric
4 months ago |Pei – I’ll be sure to forward those facts onto the galleries that display my work. Odd that they never seemes to care before…
spam
4 months ago |Two stops in Jpg don’t say much. Two stops in RAW would be a major improvement.
admin
4 months ago |I think it’s JPEG
Boooo!
4 months ago |Well, then that’s useless… If it’s JPEG, then it’s the current Panasonic 16 Mpx sensor, and the claims about improved DR and noise only relate to JPEG files, not the capabilities of the sensor.
While the Panasonic 16 Mpx sensor is an improvement over the old 12 Mpx sensor from 2008, it’s still not nearly on the level it technically should be.
I’m now starting to believe it’s going to be a major disappointment
caver3d
4 months ago |That’s fine. You don’t have to buy it. We could care less.
CRB
4 months ago |Do you work for Olympus? “we could care less”…
Michael
4 months ago |I could NOT care less. Think about it.
MrA
4 months ago |used sarcastically…
jacek
4 months ago |Who uses JPEG?
KI
4 months ago |I do. Together with raw. Olympus JPEGs are usually very good.
Bob B.
4 months ago |who uses Olympus?
MJr
4 months ago |People who prefer a decent JPEG processor.
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/12/30/panasonic-gx1-vs-olympus-e-p3-part-2-out-of-camera-jpegs-color-and-awb/
Bob B.
4 months ago |I was just kidding about the Olympus comment..thus the smiley face.
I don’t shoot jpegs..but I get it..people do. I don’t use facebook..but I get it… people do.
I disagree with Steve..but that is ok, he is a really smart cookie and he states that the EP3 is his “preference”. I follow Steve’s column and it is a great source of info and assessment.
He is really into almost anything “retro”…but I love the way he backs up everything is says.
Love the blog.
I am more a form-follows-function, guy. The GX1 is more technically savvy, and user customizable, for MY needs.
My preference is to shoot raw and I prefer and own the GX1 & G3 cameras.
It is all good…and I hope that this OM is EVERYTHING it is HYPED to be. Its all very exciting.
Hell…if the DR really shows up, I may buy one.
Bob B.
4 months ago |Upon further thought, actually I will only buy one of these if it has a revolutionary new sensor from a third party manufacturer.
CRB
4 months ago |+1…
nobody
4 months ago |Digital cameras are a mature technology meanwhile. It isn’t reasonable to expect revolutions any more.
Look at the Nikon D4. It’s a sensible upgrade to the D3s, but not revolutionary at all.
IMO, the days for revolutionary improvements are over.
Bob B.
4 months ago |For MFT ….getting 2 EV’s of DR would be a revolution. I think many would agree.
simonl
4 months ago |Film is a mature technology. Digital cameras & sensors have a looooooong way to go yet
MJr
4 months ago |Yes i figured you were kinda kidding. Personally i shoot raw all the time, but it’s nice to have JPGs for reference ready OOC. Many people assume that RAW is always better out of the box but it’s not so simple, it’l always need some work or a custom preset (as you know). It’s nice to have JPG coming out of the camera that just looks good. Like we used to preference a certain film for its colors and contrast, it’s quite similar with JPEG today.
I linked to Steve because of the comparisons, not particularly for his opinions or anything. When i look at the Panasonic images i see horribly smudged detail, like drawing outside the lines, with ‘empty’ colors that have no strength or expression. The Olympus images look like shots from a roll of Fuji Superia. That tells me they’re a company who care.
The problem is that you’re right and we don’t really see that mentality in Oly’s controls/operation, where the GX1 did quite well. Ofcourse that one came after the e-p3, and all the other Panys also have that quirky interface.
Love the m43 format, all it needs now is a camera that shows some professionalism to actually use it for all the potential it’s got. It’d be a shame not to take full advantage of all those high-end m4/3 lenses, current and up-coming.
They just needed settle in, they basically did a lot of public-testing with new products every 8 month that are easy to sell to any kind of user. But now they’re ready to take a step up. This is where it all changes. Goodby quirky PENs (for me that is), welcome OM-D !
ps. Just trying out my new keyboard
Bob B.
4 months ago |I actually post process EVERYTHING. I like the raw files kind of flat..I turn NR off completely too. (I thought it was off on my GX1 but after reading Steve’s comparison last week I realized I had to set NR to -2 for it to be off off. LOL).
Sometimes I like my files clean
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7157/6712544549_f1b1afb053_b.jpg
and sometimes I like them super funky…
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7146/6752906169_cf75a3baab_b.jpg
it all depends!
Giulio Sciorio
4 months ago |Actually was wondering something similar. I love this site and visit it daily but I always see the same people comment on things that may or may not happen which makes me wonder – anyone here actually taking photos?
The current cameras are fantastic and naturally they will get better but that will not help develop ones creativity. I know that might not seem as fun or exciting to some but to me the whole reason I use a camera is so I can take photos and not talk about cameras.
Boooo!
4 months ago |I never shoot standalone JPEG. The 1600×1200 version embedded in the raw files of my E-3 is large enough for small prints and even too large for things like sending to family or uploading to Flickr. (By the way, I think I read somewhere that the E-5 – and possibly the PENs – have full-size JPEGs embedded.)
There is no reason NOT to shoot raw, if you ask me.
Janneke
4 months ago |I think that there’s a full sized JPG embedded in the PEN RAW file too. Try reviewing a RAW + small (640px) JPG image on the screen of the E-PM1. You’ll see a small and low res image. When you choose just RAW you get a high quality preview. I don’t like this by the way. Because when I need a RAW file and a small JPG for internet and email I can’t review/check my photos on the screen at full size. Stupid if you ask me.
The new OM thingy better have pretty impressive image quality for that kind of money. If it does have lightning fast AF, better DR and two stops better high ISO results, I might be tempted to skip the Fuji X-Pro1 for it.
Fish
4 months ago |I think that jpeg is the perfect choice for m4/3. I want a small system that can take excellent images that I don’t have to spend a lot of time fiddling with – thankfully the Oly jpegs leave nothing wanting.
If I was after ultimate image quality and was committed to investing time in post processing… I would have chosen a different format. There nothing surprising about using jpeg with m4/3, it is a natural match. What suprises me is the number of professionals who also claim that they have switched back to jpeg as well.
Nico Foto
4 months ago |Well, a $1200 camera clearly targets at enthusiasts. That crowd will generally shoot RAW if you ask me…So, JPEG means little to me, and i’d dare say, to most readers of this blog.
Archer Sully
4 months ago |Kirk Tuck, amongst others. Most wedding photographers. Good jpegs allow you to quickly get an image posted, as even with modern programs like Lightroom and Aperture raw always need changes to the tonal curve before they’re ready.
Raist
4 months ago |All the people that prided themselves in using RAW, that, when the E-5 came out (and Pens), noticed finally that Olympus has a good JPEG engine, still an advantage over competitors and all of a sudden decided to start shooting it, because you know, now that it’s one of the key advantages that remain on that end, it’s cool
(yes, exaggerated a bit, but I noticed that after all the heat I got for shooting JPEG – yes I am a JPEG shooter with Olympus equipment – there were many “new born in JPEG” conversions
).
Nico Foto
4 months ago |We know Oly knows how to squeeze up to the last bit of IQ in its JPEG engine. Unfortunately, the truth is dictated by RAW. So the question about how much DR and high iso have been REALLY improved remains.
bli
4 months ago |The source cannot test RAW because there is currently no software which supports the RAW files.
Raist
4 months ago |That is understandable, but doesn’t mean that then we can jump to conclusions about the sensor real performance.
Agent00soul
4 months ago |Two stops in jpeg is two stops in jpeg. You can’t print raw images, can you?
Boooo!
4 months ago |I don’t know of anyone who prints SOOC JPEG files (except for my niece, but she has a pink compact camera).
Agent00soul
4 months ago |Then you don’t know me.
Kylberg
4 months ago |You convert from RAW to TIF – then print. JPG destroys quality, TIF doen’t.
Qimage prints from RAW.
Agent00soul
4 months ago |You don’t simply convert from raw. The software INTERPRETS the raw data. This can be done in any number of ways – more or less well, just like the jpeg software.
By the way, TIF destroys disk space. You won’t see a difference between a TIF and a low compression JPEG. Been there – done that.
Nico Foto
4 months ago |Yes, but then, you have at your disposal large amounts of RAM, big CPUs, and big, complex software…All of the above means more complex, machine-intensive algorythms can be implemented. That’s why I’d leave the raw conversion to my computer, not the camera.
Ark-kun
4 months ago |>The software INTERPRETS the raw data. This can be done in any number of ways – more or less well, just like the jpeg software.
No. There are several fundamental differences.
First, some conversions are lossles, some are lossy. Jpeg is lossy. (Jpeg 2000 and Jpeg XR can be lossless)
Second, the corrent Jpeg standard doesn’t allow more than 8bit per channel colors. Most raw files have 10-14. You lose a lot here (couple of stops maybe).
>By the way, TIF destroys disk space.
What about compressed tiff files? What about compressed DNG raw files? (TIFF and DNG support compression)
Boooo!
4 months ago |1 bit = 1 stop
Agent00soul
4 months ago |Well, what you have is generic software written to work with all cameras by someone else than the maker of your camera (unless you use Olympus Studio, of course).
Who do you think knows how to make the most of the OM-D’s files – Olympus or Adobe?
Boooo!
4 months ago |“Who do you think knows how to make the most of the OM-D’s files – Olympus or Adobe?”
How about… the user?
Shooting JPEG removes the user’s control. You can’t do much with JPEG files. In fact, by shooting JPEG, you’ve thrown away over three quarters of image information from the current Panoly sensors. Shooting JPEG with the Sony 16 Mpx sensor means you’re throwing away over thirty times as much info as the sensor records.
Agent00soul
4 months ago |This is a myth. You will always have to map the image data to the output medium. This throws away a lot of data, that’s true. A printer or screen can’t make use of more than 8 bits per colour in the output file. And usually not even all of the 8 bits.
However, the interesting bit is WHAT data you throw away. With a raw converter program you have SOME influence on this. With the in-camera JPEG processing, you too have SOME influence. In both cases the software makes a lot of choices that you can’t control. And in both cases data are thrown away.
With good in-camera jpeg processing, the sensor’s 12 bits per colour (or whatever it has) gets intelligently mapped to 24 bits that produce a pleasing print or screen display.
Boooo!
4 months ago |Except when it doesn’t. And that’s more often than not.
Agent00soul
4 months ago |And if that’s the case, you’re doing something wrong. Olympus jpeg output is renown. It’s true that in SOME cases you can get better results by tweaking settings in a raw converter. But it’s equally true that you can get WORSE results from the raw converter than you would get from Olympus’ in-camera processing.
It’s well-known that the famous Olympus colour is rarely recreated by third party raw converters.
Boooo!
4 months ago |I know everything about Oly colour, but it has nothing to do with “doing something wrong”.
Have you ever corrected white balance on a JPEG? If so, congratulations, you’ve done some utterly destructive editing. Perhaps a bit of extra contrast? Same. Wanted to make a B&W photo, since Olympus is horrendous regarding in-cam B&W? You could have done much better from a raw file. Etc.
Applying a Lightroom preset to mimic Olympus colours is extremely simple. I’m almost certain that for 99% of the photos you’d have no idea if they went through Adobe Camera Raw or were created by the camera itself.
Raist
4 months ago |It is true you have to map the data – but the point is, you have rich data which you can map yourself according to the photo needs for contrast and the like.
The software makes more choices for you in the JPEG engine than say in LightRoom where you can modify by zone, changes, change exposure and contrast and curves.
Also some printers are doing now 16 bit printing (Epson).
That said, I agree a well exposed JPEG with a good JPEG engine this shouldn’t be a big issue for many applications. But you are makings it sound like there’s no difference between RAW and JPEG here. I will agree with you that for a lot of shooting domains, the practical difference is negligible depending what the photographer is shooting and his skills/circumstances.
Tom
4 months ago |Not sure why there’s so much hatred towards JPG, reeks of ignorance more than anything! Sure programs like Lightroom speed up RAW processing (profiles and presets) and save against the odd bad WB setting but really, if you’re shooting Oly there’s no significant need to shoot RAW — Panasonic or Sony, yeah possibly but there’s nothing “technically” wrong with a JPG.
Programs like TuFuse/enFuse or SNS-HDR work better with JPG input so I’m happy shooting JPG 90% of the time… I’ll be happy when the industry adopts JPG XR though!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG_XR
John
4 months ago |nothing wrong… hmmm lossy compression, compression artifacts, loss of dynamic range. Sorry i prefer lossless compression
Archer Sully
4 months ago |I challenge you to see compression artifacts in a super-fine jpeg. Tonal curves take care of mapping of the dynamic range of the source image to the final output: its what gives image punch. A raw that doesn’t have a curve applied to it ends up looking pretty flat.
Will
4 months ago |Just think of the RAW file as the negative, and the JPG as the print. You wouldn’t throw away your negatives, and you wouldn’t throw away your RAW files, on the chance that someday you might want to print a more technically perfect rendition of the image.
Scott
4 months ago |Nobody waste their time converting to TIFF thats the dumbest thing ever. How many people here actually print anything over 20×24?
MJr
4 months ago |Yes tiff is often (mis)used as a placebo, but can be the proper choice for numerous occasions, that however not everyone will ever even encounter. But that has absolutely nothing to do with the size of a print. In any case tho it doesn’t waste time when you let batch processing do the work and you don’t need to be there to attend to it. The same for RAW to JPG.
lnqo-M
4 months ago |Well i think the is two stop better i TIFF also.
John
4 months ago |Aperture and Lightroom both print from RAW and metadata (i.e your adjustments)…
Agent00soul
4 months ago |No, they don’t. They first INTERPRET the raw data. Then they print from that.
John
4 months ago |read my post i said from RAW and your adjustments. Output is always a selection of course. I have a negative say (a colour one with lots of dynamice range) i make a print, i make choices about what subset of data goes to output. I make another print, a different version, i make different choices to output. I can always access the full potential of my source, that’s RAW. A jpg to me is more like a positive, a chrome if you nailed the exposure you’re good, if your get the print just right you’re good but that is about it There is not much you can do to push it around, to make versions, should you wish to, or fix that shadow or highlight the data is just not there anymore (and of course in the case of slides never was. (jpg are somewhat friendlier than slidefilm in that respect)
Agent00soul
4 months ago |The kicker here is that the raw data is interpreted before you can apply your settings. Many have found out that no amount of tweaking the settings can produce the famous Olympus colour from a third party raw converter.
John
4 months ago |Kirk Tuck seems to think differently, if i read him correctly. He has written very happily about Oly colours especially those lovely blue skies… he uses Lightroom, just sayin’
Will
4 months ago |What he said.
MJr
4 months ago |Dude, that’s what he said.
Olaf
4 months ago |Maybee two stops in JPG says quite a bit, if its correct! Olympus has a JPG engine in camera that uses the DR in the RAW files a lot better than most other manufacturer. So if the JPG is two stops better you can expect the RAW to be two steps better as well.
Raist
4 months ago |They are talking about noise, not DR though. But two stops sounds like different enough that something must have changed in RAW too. Perhaps 1 stop in RAW, 2 stops in JPEG.
zinanga
4 months ago |Sorry, self-deleted
CRB
4 months ago |RAW or jpeg?….
nico
4 months ago |Yeahhh, this is the promise of a correct 1600 ISO
+1 about the disappoitment about the E5, I went to Photokina 2010 to see it, and made quick’n'dirty test shooting vs my girlfriend’s Canon 550d… at 6400iso the Oly guy was as disappointed as we were
Miroslav
4 months ago |“two stop improvement is something almost unbelievable”
For Panasonic sensor, yes. But that new Fuji APS-C 16 Mpx sensor is two stops ahead of 12 Mpx Panasonic that Olympus uses. Look at http://vladdodan.ro/blog/fuji-x-pro-1-hands-on-preview/ . ISO1600 on my E-PL1 looks like ISO 6400 on X-Pro 1. Let’s hope this rumor is true.
Raist
4 months ago |It is not a Fuji sensor.
jim
4 months ago |Well, this is very good news!
Ok proof is in the pudding but 2 stops! thats a noticable upgrade.. and with better DR this is shaping up to be a very nice camera indeed…
If it is as good as speculation, oly have come up trumps and been listning to the community closly…. they knew they could not do another gen with the 12mpix sensor!
Yun
4 months ago |Admin , If that rumour is correct , can I assume ISO 3200 OMD = ISO 800 EP3 ?
This is great news but how could Olympus manage to overtake Pana in sensor performance ? Hard to believe it .
B2
4 months ago |It isn’t, it’s just taking the new sensor from Pana and when the latter actually releases GH3 it will have even better performance, about 2/3 of the stop
soldar
4 months ago |well then based on previous name if E-P, where P stands for Pen
the new camera should be named something like E-O1, or E-OM1.
tutejszy
4 months ago |Jesus Chrysler, admin, you make may hart stop with such news. more info pleez!
omox
4 months ago |J.C. genialne!!!!
:D:D
Camaman
4 months ago |This is great! That means one stop for sure!
Any news on built in flash or flash sync speed?
New flash guns?
Ralentizeur
4 months ago |seeing is believing
Mr. Reeee
4 months ago |+1000!
Until then, it’s just marketing hype.
WT21
4 months ago |I have a hard time believing the sensor is really anything more than marketing hype + jpg improvements. Maybe it’s some sort of improved in-camera HDR, etc. That is, I have a hard time believing the RAW will be better, but I’d love to be surprised.
WT21
4 months ago |reverse stream swimmers comment below seems to clear it up.
reverse stream swimmer
4 months ago |This is exactly what can be expected from the G3/GX1 sensor:
The 2 EV stops improvement at high ISO actually can be met with the new GX1 sensor over the old GF1 sensor. 2 stops = 6 dB (3 stops = 9 dB)
From: http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/g3/high_image.html
“Notably in shooting at high ISO setting, S/N (Signal-to-Noise) value is improved by approx. 200% compared with the conventional 12.1-megapixel sensor. The sensor performance improves by 6db at ISO3200 and max. 9db at ISO6400, resulting in the dramatically flawless image without noise.”
tutejszy
4 months ago |then guess I put is right: pana sensor. good, but not suprised
Miroslav
4 months ago |I’m afraid you’re right
. Nevertheless, Oly jpeg engine will squeeze a bit more from it, as usual.
Gman
4 months ago |Agreed. The increased dynamic range compared to the old 12MP sensor is likely from ISO400 and higher, where the new 16MP Panasonic sensor has an advantage.
Anonymous
4 months ago |Good catch. Reaffirms my vote for the Panasonic.
JF
4 months ago |dxomark didn’t see the 6 dB !
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Compare-Camera-Sensors/Compare-cameras-side-by-side/(appareil1)/754|0/(brand)/Panasonic/(appareil2)/632|0/(brand2)/Panasonic
I hope it is not G3 sensor !
Steve
4 months ago |dxomark is not comparing JPEG.
Raist
4 months ago |Update: My mistake we said the same thing.
karay
4 months ago |DxOmark measures the noise at 18% grey, it’s probably a greater improvement in the shadows. If you look at the Dynamic range chart you can see why.
NativeFloridian
4 months ago |But… using the G3/GX1 sensor would not significantly increase dynamic range as was suggested in an earlier rumor. Will have to wait and see, but my money is on the Panny 16 megapixel sensor with some fancy Oly post-processing.
NEW sensor (not Panny) > Panny G3 16mpx > Panny G1 12 mpx
Fingers crossed
Raist
4 months ago |That’s why they are rumors. They may not be true
Raist
4 months ago |Very good catch, but this means the DR doesn’t move.
Abi
4 months ago |No need to hold yr breath…
E5 was also preceded with amazing hypes from this source…
Amazing sensor, the IQ that surpassing D3, fast AF, blah2…
So was the EP3… touted as having fastest AF when in fact its only fastest in S-AF with many caveats
Oly rumor sources for this site sure knows how to generate interest
When in fact most of them are BS…
Take them with a bunch of salt…
WT21
4 months ago |I agree with a lot of things, except the EP3 AF being hype. It is extremely fast, and with the touch screen, very handy, though as you note, it’s AF-S fast, but the reality pretty much bolstered the marketing claims.
The sensor claims, on the other hand, did not live up to the hype. This is the Panny sensor, maybe tweaked a bit by Oly. It will be better than the EP3, but only as much better as the G3/GX1 is, and maybe a tiny fraction better than that.
jacek
4 months ago |The camera name starts with E? E-7?
Balthier Bunansa
4 months ago |for me, as long this camera is well rounded product (not having any glaring weaknesses) and is better than E-P3 , i’ll buy it
juanko
4 months ago |good news,
if OM-D ISO12800 => E-p3 ISO3200
E-p3 ISO3200 => 5D MARK II ISO12800
OM-D => 5D MARK II in high ISOS
hopefully not false illusions that we are giving
Marcelo Guarini
4 months ago |I think you are being to eager.
jacek
4 months ago |Well why only 5d mark II? Let’s compare that to medium format. Or large format. FT3!! OM-D will have better ISO than most Medium Format cameras!!!!
Olaf
4 months ago |Medium format cameras are normally nothing special in High ISO.
panasonic
4 months ago |MF no hd video
lol…
Ark-kun
4 months ago |I wonder why. The pixels are bigger, so there should be less noise. Stale sensor technology?
Archer Sully
4 months ago |The comparisons are based on the “equivalence” bludgeon that is so often used against 4/3′s: at the same DOF, 4/3′s is two-stops faster (the old f/2 vs f/4 argument), hence you can run two stops lower ISO at the same shutter speed.
TomR
4 months ago |‘x’ is trendy. But i hope it is not E-X1.
Kylberg
4 months ago |If it is jpg the increase can be due to Oly excellent jpg engine and development of that.
Still I hope rumors are correct, but believes they are deliberate messages from marketing to “keep the kettle boiling”.
lnqo-M
4 months ago |The is JPEG in E-P3 ISO 3200 VS. JPEG in “OM-D”ISO 12800.
I think the is two step difference in RAW also.
Ranger 9
4 months ago |Admin: ‘The final camera name starts with the usual “E” letter. The “OM-D” is the new camera line name like it is with the “PEN”.’
Future conversation: “Hey, nice photo. What did you shoot it with?” “My OM-D E-D6L Ti.” Bleah.
Archer Sully
4 months ago |Once I get one, I’ll rename it “Susie.” I’ve always liked that name.
sneye
4 months ago |Well, IF all those rumors materialize it’s bad news for Olympus. The E-OM1 (?) may be the last camera I will buy in a long time.
BTW, anything about PDAF? The rumored weather sealed adapter must have a good reason.
GS
4 months ago |> Is it possible to have one more piece of image of the OM-D?
if you only have the unboxing video, that’s ok
Keith
4 months ago |2 stops “jpg” – meh, that just means more NR you can’t turn down.
pearldiver
4 months ago |And the FT lenses? How will they perform on the new body? Rumours about a sealed adapter say nothing about better AF capability for the old glass. If Olympus does not provide a serious solution for the up til now unachieved pro and top pro FT lenses then they have missed the chance for now and ever.
lnqo-M
4 months ago |The best solution for FT lens is E-7, only.
Bob B.
4 months ago |This is all very amusing. Reminds me of the girl saying hello to you in the cafeteria and you spend the afternoon imagining your marriage and children…based on her “hello”.
Nico Foto
4 months ago |Lol
Frankie_Indo
4 months ago |+1 lol…
Charlie
4 months ago |Really? Only losers do sh!t like that.
Keith
4 months ago |No, only boring people don’t!
Or did you marry your 13 year old sweatheart! lol
Mr. Reeee
4 months ago |I think that’s illegal in most states….
…north of the Mason-Dixon line.
Mr. Reeee
4 months ago |+1,000,000,000
OM-FG, I almost choked on that one, Bob!
You’re absolutely right.
All this rampant fantasizing has gotten downright silly.
Bob B.
4 months ago |This is so over the top it reminds me of the video “My Angel is a Centerfold”!!!! LOL
The poor OM will never live up to this. It is fun speculating…but I need to take a break and go take some photos!
(with my Panasonic GX1….LOL!)
Mr. Reeee
4 months ago |No kidding.
Observing the inevitable letdown and backlash ought to be amusing.
My Angel is a Centerfold? huh? I must have missed that one.
Bob B.
4 months ago |I am old….J. Giles Band…very early MTV.
www.MilosJanata.com
4 months ago |And she even wasn’t a girl in the end
Raist
4 months ago |Hahahahha! LOL! Now that is a really funny analogy
Though I thought it was impossible for guys to imagine something like that? 
teh young sun
4 months ago |i like to shoot at iso 200 and lower hoping for an improvement in the cleanliness of the shadow and a much improve dr. is iso 100 or lower available on the camera
Peter J. DeCrescenzo
4 months ago |Yep.
@ admin:
Concerning video quality, as with stills, the proof will be in the pudding.
There are dozens of parameters that are used to measure and compare video quality. Just because a camera has relatively better performance in one or a few areas doesn’t necessarily mean its video will look noticeably “better”. In fact an improvement in one aspect could be masked by a deficiency in another.
There can even be debate about what published (or pre-release) specs mean vs. actual camera performance. The new Nikon D4 is a current example: Its video specs look really good, but there’s quite a debate about whether or not the camera’s output is any good because so far very limited material has been distributed in high-quality form (If any). Either way, the truth will come out soon enough.
Let’s wait and see what results the final production versions (not proto-types) of the OM-D camera are able to produce in the hands of competent users — not paid marketing types.
Cheers.
Raúl
4 months ago |Marketing hype and tweaked jpg from the very same old and outdated sensor…. yawn…
panasonic
4 months ago |why “stop” so important? does it = iso?
OM4 kind like optimus prime body -lot of dials
pyramid with on top of babylon, hope omd much more sexy classic or sexy modern, simply gives a box like, at anytime still can slap on ppl 
lol…joking
Ark-kun
4 months ago |Stop is “F-stop”. Which translates to “twice usefully sensed light” or “being able to half the shutted speed by doubling the ISO with the same quality”.
P
4 months ago |There were rumors about this camera as early as 2009? It was rumored to be the E-M1!
http://blog.livedoor.jp/e_p1/archives/51255174.html
panasonic
4 months ago |wow, it is really same like rumor here! nice looking!
P
4 months ago |If Olympus really has been working on this camera for more than 3 years now, it better be good.
JF
4 months ago |3 years doesn’t seem a lot to achieve a camera. Do you imagine the needed work and the complexity ?
P
4 months ago |This rumor is 3 years old, so the development started earlier. Also once the basic format of a camera is fixed, I don’t think they build the newer models right from the scratch. Lot of part designs are taken from the bin. Lot of work is sub-contracted. So I think 3-4 years is more than enough for development of a follow up model.
panasonic
4 months ago |since last year, mirrorless segment is kind like we seen in tablet, smartphone , the progress so rapid! is billion business! who lacking innovative will be removed ie: nokia world no#1 pawned by a fruite and a tiny robot
now, fujifilm has sent their fuji apple xpro1, sony nex7, samsung nx200, panny gx1, pentaxq, nikon1, and EPx. olympus have long time enough in mirrorless if they lose the no1 spot to others, that will be sad as like nokia!
while canon tried with gx1 approach to ‘delay’ their customer demand ‘hey, dont buy 1st, we have gx1 and this year we will have real mirrorless in photokina; wait us please’ -pathetic!
i bet fuji will be the 1st release mirrorless FF!
ange7
4 months ago |yeah p
nice “looking” indeed. wow 2009
panasonic
4 months ago |i know many of you have started disappointed when known it is 2 stop improve in jpeg. that is our problem when we do not have own foundry
but who know, surprise may comes 
Franky S
4 months ago |My money is still on them dusting off the same old 12 megapixel sensor. Of course they’ll whip up a storm of hysteria claiming a “brand new sensor”, but we’ve all been there before…
Alfons
4 months ago |OM-D E-1?
Zonkie
4 months ago |Yes, or OM-D E-7
knipser
4 months ago |Show us new OM pictures
What about other new products from oly?
Ark-kun
4 months ago |>on JPEG, obviously, there is no RAW support
Why? It’s not obvious to me.
Me
4 months ago |I guess the wording of that sentence is a bit weird. Should probably mean there were no RAWs made that support the claim of the two-stop improvement.
Augus
4 months ago |I think the author means that Oly did not provide software for decoding the RAW file from OM-D.
At least in previous Nikon and Canon beta testings, this situation is common.
Hson
4 months ago |Weatherproof body, improved dynamic range, better high ISO, it’s getting better and better. If handling is good, and if the viewfinder is good enough, I might get me one of these and retire my E-P1.
NiKo
4 months ago |May I suggest E-P1c? It would be if all these rumors were true.
Ralentizeur
4 months ago |OM-ADE!(FOREVER)
SF
4 months ago |Well, this rumor basically sais nothing.
What defines 2 stops better? Lower noise you can achieve easily by aggressive noise reduction… so “better” is a trade-off between noise and details. The E-P3 already has a very high noise reduction, so that you loose a lot of details in the shadows.
Scott
4 months ago |Just because Pani manufactured the sensor doesnt mean they designed it.
untrusted source
4 months ago |http://as.elte-s.com/temp/niespodzianka.jpg
Boooo!
4 months ago |Surprise?
The photo looks very sharp. Which lens is that?
Boooo!
4 months ago |Ah…
“Okay, I will not be kept in suspense – this picture is a panorama of epl1 2×2 z. .. Helios, of course. After resajzie. Such a joke my
It is a pity that it is impossible to obtain such quality 1:1 for any matrix (with Sigma also, if anyone asks).
Photo posted but also for any other purpose. It shows how easily – when it is needed, and the staff is stable – you can go in megapiskele. The whole took me a few seconds (exposure) plus the two minutes (combining and processing).
Or to send this photo to Rumorsy? has anyone plugs? Let the people … little ponabierają”
Nico Foto
4 months ago |Whatever you’re smoking, send us a couple, please.
Boooo!
4 months ago |The photo is a Polish fake that wanted to trick someone (including the admin) into thinking it’s a photo from the OM-D. I dug up the thread, and the author admitted it was a stitched fake, according to Google Translate.
Grape
4 months ago |You are at least a consistent idiot.
Luke
4 months ago |I hope this doesn’t just mean smeary less detailed instead of noisy. That’s not really a 2 step improvement (I’m looking at you G3).
believer
4 months ago |I believe this message because, if you are looking at http://www.dxomark.com, the Olympus PEN EP3 has a dynamic range and a low light iso like a compact cam.
So if they would use a normal sony nex 5N sensor the low light iso and the dynamic range will have an improvement of 2 stops.
I think, a sensor quality of a nex5 is a must for the new OM D!
JF
4 months ago |I just made a comparison between EP3 and Canon S100 and…S100 has better dynamic range !! and you are right that high performances are close, EP3 being slightky better with 1/2 stop…
I dream about a sony sensor…
Riley
4 months ago |screw DxO, most people dont understand how different their measurements are. Even with the panny 12Mp sensor which they claim has an engineering DR of 10.5 stops, IMATEST pulls 11.5 stops out of it consistently, indeed DPR got 10.5 stops out of E5 jpeg.
Dave_in_MI
4 months ago |If I had to guess at the final camera name:
Olympus OM-D E-100
I remember reading rumors that while the E-x DSLRs would remain 43rds, the E-xxx series would eventually be rebooted as m43. This could be that.
lnqo-M
4 months ago |Sorry Olympus E100 is from 2001, but you have right in the first rumors by is m43 replace the by E-xxx line.
JF Gilbert
4 months ago |“A two stop improvement is something almost unbelievable.”
Not almost.
Pei
4 months ago |ISO 3200 on the 12mp sensor is not usable so I assume this means 12800 on the OM-D is also unusable. At least 6400 is an option in the menu.
BTW, isn’t E-O5 too stupid a name?
E-Pen 3 = E-P3 so E-OM-D 5 = E-O5
Jason
4 months ago |It is the flagship, it will will be called the E-6.
Mr. Reeee
4 months ago |My vote still goes with EI-EI-OM.
Bob B.
4 months ago |I saw that when you posted it the other day. The lyrics really work. LOL!
steve
4 months ago |OM-D….E whatever
Are we going to get more strange names for cameras?
Charlie
4 months ago |Love how all the Pannysonic fangirls are butthurt about the new Olympus. As many boohoo posts from them than people interested in the OM-D.
3200 on the EP3 is not very clean, so I’m not sure we learned much here. If you can get very good output at 1600, like the XPro1, that would be impressive.
Sounds like they may screw up the name: E+OM+D+##+x ….. going to sound like a Gregorian chant.
Bob B.
4 months ago |ouch my butt hurt. boo hoo…boo hoo…..
There ….are you happy!!!! LOL!
wait..wait…we don’t even know what the OM is?????
ange7
4 months ago |panny fangirls! I like how they laugh at each others jokes and keep us updated on the bleeding obvious. “it’s just rumors!!!…stop the hype” … no shit?
Ulli
4 months ago |Am i the only one who is interested in this claim? :
“The effect of the stabilization can be seen though the new viewfinder in the OM-D“.
so a stabilized view even during magnification is possible? I like that better then all the talk about sensor,jpg and name convention together.
Steve
4 months ago |Not sure how that is possible with sensor based IS.
Ulli
4 months ago |the E-3 had a preview button for this, so you could see it on the LCD
it drains the battery quickly if you use it too much i guess
Ralentizeur
4 months ago |MASSIVE LEAK! WE’LL SEE THE FULL PICTURE SOON, STAY TUNED!!!
admin
4 months ago |Where?
P
4 months ago |43rumors.com
lnqo-M
4 months ago |Will Olympus give us a shadow image.
The Real Stig
4 months ago |Yes please!
While the slow photo strip tease and drip feeding was fun at the beginning, it has served it’s purpose and has now become more aggravating than amusing.
Pei
4 months ago |It will be a photo negative of the battery cover of an OM-20.
NativeFloridian
4 months ago |To the various SOURCES perusing this forum:
Periodic leaks may be good marketing… but only up to a point! Unfortunately, I think we are past that point in regards to rumors and leaks about the OM’s sensor and IQ improvements. Just two weeks ago on this forum, any improvement to the sensor (an improvement over the PEN 12mpx sensor, i.e. the G3 sensor) would have been hailed as great news. Fast-forward two weeks, and now the leaks about improved video performance, ISO, and DR have set expectations unreasonably high. People are now ‘expecting’ a revolutionary sensor from a non-m43 manufacturer.
FWIW, if the new Oly sensor is the G3 sensor, my advice would be to tell that to Admin or to our forum soon. Waiting too long only sets expectation unrealistically high and treatens to disappoint the Oly loyalists here at 43rumors. That being said, the slow strip-tease of the cameras external aesthetics IS good marketing.
Good luck, Oly! I hope you sell a lot of cameras.
JF
4 months ago |if it is G3 sensor, there will be a post with 500 comments of angry people that were hopping something really new ! me being one…
admin
4 months ago |me too!
OlyFan
4 months ago |This is so funny! First it was “It better have a new sensor”, then “It needs to have atleast the G3 sensor for me to be interested” and now “it better not be a G3 sensor”!
Seriously, Do we really care who made the sensor as long as all the claims about the image quality and DR improvements are true!? I for one don’t!
JF
4 months ago |Personnaly, I have never wanted a G3 sensor as the improvement over my GH1 is too low or non-existent. Maybe G3 sensor corrects banding noise but on other aspects it is less good
napalm
4 months ago |I’m still anchored into expecting a G3 sensor w/ better trupic engine. Dont want to be disappointed. If it turns out to be a new, better sensor then that wd be great
mclarenf3
4 months ago |I would agree. I think all the improvements (more DR, higher usable ISO) we are reading about will be from the JPEG processing through the trupic engine.
The style and aesthetics of the camera may be a game-changer, but I don’t think the sensor is going to be.
SLO
4 months ago |Great point! The expectations are spirialing out of control. Now people expect FF performance or MF phase one mirrorless with PDAF and a Death Star to blow up the world.
It’ll be a g3 sensor. Hopefully they’ll keep NR like on the E5 for jpegs. Should be a fun camera to use!
lk
4 months ago |what i’d like to know the most is:
does it have articulated LCD?
how is the shutter – what is the max flash sync speed and is there an optional electronic (silent) shutter mode?
if this camera does these things ‘right’ then i might have my perfect camera (until something newer comes along and i realise it’s not that perfect after all…)
Agent00soul
4 months ago |Tilting LCD seems to be what the sources say.
admin
4 months ago |Yes it has tilting LCD.
lk
4 months ago |thanks for that answer (to both of you guys!), that’s great news.
metalaryeh
4 months ago |+1
Regarding flash sync speed.
Please give us 1/250.
flash
4 months ago |Maybe, “E-OM-D5″ , but where is the “x”? Can’t be a serous camera with out an “x”.:)
BLI
4 months ago |But why both E and D in the name? I assume D= digital and E=electrical or???
flash
4 months ago |This rumor said it will start with E. and the image we have shows OM-D. of course they are rumors.
I think it is redundant myself, I think it should just be OM-50. Then it will be clear that it is to replace the E-xx line of cameras. The camera series as a whole can be called the OM-D series. The “E -” can be when describing all the interchangeable lens digital Olympus cameras.
Jason
4 months ago |Extra stops equals no need to carry FL-36R flash hopefully!
Archer Sully
4 months ago |I will likely finally get a 36R (my old 4/3′s cam doesn’t support the R protocol), as the whole point of getting the remote flash is that it lets you do more interesting things with lighting, rather than making up for low light.
om-4
4 months ago |Anyone seen the “bulletproof” industrial highspeed camera i-speed FS?
http://www.olympus-ims.com/en/hsv-products/i-speed-fs/
It has oversized sensor 5:4 format crops for 9 other sizes.
2000fps fullsize up to 1.000.000fps cropped
global shutter
btw, my guess for the camera name will be E-Y1
The M was the first letter of Maitani’s surname. His name was Yoshihisa.
BLI
4 months ago |Yes, I saw it a few months ago. Thus, technically, they could perhaps include a 4K mode and a high speed mode (e.g as in some Casio point and shoot + the Nikon 1), but the resulting camera might get too expensive.
Zetton
4 months ago |Beginning with E? E-xxx?
then…
In E-P series, P could be “PEN”.
then O for OM series, or M. M is the initial OM series name (but Leica claimed because of its M-series).
E-O1 or E-M1. I choose E-M1 than E-O1.
Jorginho
4 months ago |I want better DR in the lower ISO range and I want 13 eV with ISO 50. I am less interested in how it performs at 12800 ISO. I shoot in that range once out of every 200 shots. Besides: noise and DR are one thing, how about colour depth, range, accuracy at those ISO values? A washed out , cleanish pic at ISO 12800 still does not make a usable, nice pic.
Jason
4 months ago |12800 ISO is of no interest to me either, however, a usable 12800 ISO means a phenomenal 1000 ISO…. Currently I do not shoot at above 1000 ISO with my EPL2, but now I will be able to shoot at 1000 ISO with results as good as my EPL2′s 200 ISO… That to me, is worth the price of admission…
OllieS
4 months ago |Well presume if the view finder image is stabilised that rules out any optical solution
Need a replacement small body for my 43 lenses but I have not liked any EVFs so far. I think I need to feel optically involved with the photo, the evfs make me feel like I’m getting a screengrab. Maybe once EVFs become better I’ll get that camera feeling back so looking forward seeing what this viewfinder can deliver.
In short any more info on the viewfinder?
Ulli
4 months ago |I am very interested in the EVF too, though i have less problems with the current ones i guess like you do. Olympus VF-2 is terrific but surely has its drawbacks. The stabilizer is prob only useful for MF(magnify while finetuning focus) and supertele photography without tripod. I don’t think Olympus will opt for a hybrid solution. I hope they come with a very precise peaking function which also works better with low contrast subjects.
Vitas
4 months ago |Must see it to believe it…
Rob
4 months ago |I think it should be OM-D6 or OM-D2 as lets face it, all the OM1s OM3s were manual metering, the even numbers had automatic functionality. i doubt it will be manual, so if they want to carry on the OM trend… it has to use an even number ! Though a fully manual OM-D1 wouldn’t sell much, but one can dream!
Terminator
4 months ago |The E in EPL/EP/EPM just stands for “Electronic”
EP-1: electronic pen one
EPL-1: electronic pen light one
EPM-1: electronic pen mini one
Remember, the E5 was called ED1/E1D until it’s launch, the D meaning dynamic.
The new camera, in the above terms will be E-M1 this may change at launch due to misconceptions and confusion between EPM-1 and EM-1
Jason
4 months ago |I think EM-1 might be the name
Scotty
4 months ago |I heard it also cures cancer and solves poverty.
Seriously, I hope all these rumors are true but I’m sure at least some of these are a bit optimistic.
lnqo-M
4 months ago |Only if you use RAW and JPEG together, the absolute truth.
Rupert Brun
4 months ago |I’m rather bemused that 2 stops improvement on the EP3 is seen as remarkable because it isn’t as if the EP3 has a great sensor in the first place. According to DxOMark the GH1 has a 13 point advantage over the EP3, and 15 DxOMark points equal one stop. So the now rather dated GH1 is almost exactly one stop better than the EP3. If the new Olympus OM-D is just one stop better than the GH1, it’s hardly ground-breaking given that almost exactly two years separate them.
Agent00soul
4 months ago |We’re talking image quality here, not Dxomark.
Rupert Brun
4 months ago |I agree DxOMark isn’t exactly the same as quality but if you know a better objective measure, say what it is.Either way, 2 stops improvement on something not very good to start with is hardly “unbelieveable”. And I certainly found the DxOMark scores reflected my own experience of “quality”, I took my GH2 back for a refund because the quality wasn’t as good as the GH1 and when the DxOMark scores for the GH2 were published they reflected this. So OM-D one stop better than a camera two years older. A welcome improvement but not the step change in dynamic range we need. If they had produced a 12MP sensor it might have been stunning!
Agent00soul
4 months ago |Well, the source said it was two stops better when looking at jpeg output. What this corresponds to in Dxomark is anyone’s guess. The E-P3 already has highly optimized jpeg processing that resulted in about 1 stop improvment relative to the E-P1, which has almost the same sensor. So it’s very hard to believe that they have been able to cram out another two stops of jpeg image quality unless the sensor is substantially improved.
Anonymous
4 months ago |OM- DL =Over My Dead Lumix
OM-DP= Over My Dead Panasonic
My Lumix is dead ,.. Welcome Oly
juanko
4 months ago |One question,
in recent rumour admin say new OM-D use image procesor Truepic VI,
(same version that E-p3)
If jpeg is two stop betterin ISO…. i think in RAW always.
lnqo-M
4 months ago |So clarity, two step better JPEG and two step better RAW, by same image processor.
DC
4 months ago |The jpeg result depends on a lot of inputs: original raw contents, picture size, software settings, etc. Even though they use the same image processor, it doesn’t necessarily mean two stop better in ISO.
Stimmer
4 months ago |This is looking more and more like my next camera purchase. I love my ep3, but this thing looks more suited for the type of work I do.
Weatherproof, rugged portable camera with good video, good ISo 3200, only jpgs, and better dynamic range.
I can’t understand all the negativity on this thread other than some insecure people who are worried about some camera beating their camera in some silly fstop testing.
Forget ISo 12800, we know this thing will have Olympus processing, great ibis, good color and white balance, and a good viewfinder. It will be an improvement over all micro 4/3 cameras.
Good times for sure.
Fyi all the people bashing the e5 have no clue what a great camera that is for most applications. It might not be a high Iso champ but it delivers the goods and makes me money.
Raist
4 months ago |I think it means not everyone is impressed with the E-5 as you are. Sorry, but that’s the reality. Personally if you are so secure in your purchase I don’t know why you are writing that.
As for negativity- I think it’s a matter of whether there will be a big jump or not. Looks like a GX1 sensor, so it’s better than what the Pen had. Is it a big jump? No, probably not- at least by many that look at it. But that doesn’t mean it’s bad. Depends on the price too.
awaler
4 months ago |ISO 12800 like ISO 3200 on E-P3 sounds nice at first. But then — who cares about 3200 on E-P3? Utterly useless. “Beautiful noise” might exist in music, not in photography.
How does ISO 1600 compare to ISO 400 on E-P3? This, to me, is the much more interesting question.