(FT3) Panasonic to announce a new product on July 28?


According to Photorumors Panasonic could launch a new product by end of July. Photorumors says the LX3LX3LX3LX3LX3LX3LX3LX3LX3LX3LX3 successor maybe will be released at the event.
43rumors already told you that the next Panasonic MFT cameras are going to be announced by end of September (the GH2 and the ultraslim MFT camera). It will be nice to see if the LX3 will become something like the Sigma DP2Sigma DP2Sigma DP2Sigma DP2Sigma DP2Sigma DP2Sigma DP2Sigma DP2Sigma DP2Sigma DP2Sigma DP2 (MFT sensor with fixed lens)

  • LX4

    Pana has to upgrade the ‘Sigma DP2’ – ultraslim with collapsable lenses 24 – 60 mm equivalent

  • spanky

    A compact with an MFT sensor and a fixed, fast zoom lens would be HUGE! I would definitely go out and buy one, probably two, as companions to the MFT cameras we have now. The current MFT cameras are still too large to be portable because of the interchangeable mount. If this is what Panasonic is releasing, hopefully it’ll have some sort of manual adjustment ring like the S90, which is a great feature.

  • yosoynacho

    Hi, spanky: you are describing the sigma dp2 !!!!

  • spanky

    @yosoynacho – not really. IMO The DP2 with the Foveon sensor is interesting, but not in the same class of IQ as the MFT sensor cameras. If I were buying a single-purpose camera to shoot landscapes I might consider a Foveon camera, but then again at 4.5MP effective resolution it’s not all that attractive for landscapes (i.e. large prints) either. In the end, I’m not buying a sensor, I’m buying a camera, and that’s an important distinction that sometimes technology evangelists miss. The DP2 is a niche product, and I’m certainly looking forward to looking at the SD15 when and if it ever comes out (June 25?), but for the moment MFT-based cameras are simply a better system proposition than the Sigma offering.

  • Jeff

    Spanky: It’s become apparent that it’s impossible for a camera with a micro 4/3rds size sensor and a zoom lens (particularly a “fixed, fast zoom lens”) to be small. You’re hoping for something that’s just not going to happen.

    I’ve never used a DP!, but I’d be willing to put up with the inherent compromises of the design, if the actual camera hadn’t gotten such horrible, horrible reviews.

  • spanky

    @Jeff – When has it become apparent that you can’t have a camera with a m4/3 sensor and a fixed fast lens to be small? No such thing has been attempted, so I don’t know on what you’re basing your conclusions. The DP sensor is 20.7mm x 13.8mm, which makes it even larger than the m4/3 sensor, and it has a fixed, fairly fast lens on it. It’s not possible to make a small m4/3 mount camera, but we’re not talking mounts here – obviously there would be no mount issues for a fixed lens camera, and you could design a purpose-built lens (as all compact camera lenses are) to work with the m4/3 sensor at a different registration distance.

  • wishlist

    A LX3 successor with a mft sensor would be awesome. I totally agree with Spanky here. What I wanted to see is something INCREDIBLE new: mft sensor, fixed lens, whole body pockatable while lens collapsable, FullHD video

  • Zonkie

    Well, we are getting confused with the word “fixed” here when applied to the lens.

    It is possible to make a small lens for a MFT sensor as long as it has a “fixed focal length” (that is, no zoom).

    What spanky is saying is that he wants the lens to be fixed to the body (no interchangeable lenses, no mount), but this lens should be a zoom.

    Well, unfortunately a fast zoom for a MFT sensor has to be big, no matter if you remove the mount. No way around that (collapsible or not).

    So if you want to keep it compact it’s either a small sensor with a fast zoom (like current LX3) or a big sensor (MFT) with a fast prime (like DP2).

  • Jeff

    Spanky: what zonkie said.

    Even the slow zooms for micro 4/3rds are pretty large. A fixed, fast zoom lens would be larger still. And it’s not like making the lens non-interchangeable is going to make the camera much smaller.

  • Zonkie

    BTW, as a happy LX3 owner myself, I would just ask for small improvements to at least match the new Samsung EX1 (TL500):

    – Improved high ISO performance so that ISO 800 is good and ISO 1600 is usable.
    – 24-72 equivalent zoom, f/1.8-2.4
    – Tilt&swivel screen
    – Improved video (higher bitrate MJPEG and exposure locking).

    That would be a nice upgrade to the best compact ever made (IMHO).

  • Jules

    I don’t expect anyone to announce anything up until the 12th if july. Planet sport has taken over, so we are having a full month of rumors :)

    @zonkie : I would not hold my breath on the tilt&swivel screen as there is little room for extra thickness on the current LX models.

    But given the size of the camera, I could think of a touch interface and/or wheel for faster controls over focus, aperture and shooting speed.

  • wageslave

    I’m all for a fixed 35mm equivalent m4/3rds sized sensor camera with a focus ring (like the S90) and 100% EVF It’s going to be awesome!

  • Chris

    “f/stop is a ratio. The ratio is between the diameter of the aperture in the lens and the focal length of the lens. The focal length is generally measured in millimeters, so we’ll stick with those as our unit of measure. On a 50mm lens, f/2 is saying that the diameter of the aperture is 25mm. The ratio is: 50/25 = 2.”

    From this website: http://www.uscoles.com/fstop.htm

    If you want a MFT sensor with a fast fixed zoom lens, you can’t have it compact as well. Let’s say we keep the current “limited” zoom range of 24-60mm (equiv.). That’d be 12-30mm for the focal length coverage in MFT. To keep the f/2.8 aperture, you’d have to have, at the “tele” end, a 10.7mm diameter opening. For that to cover the image circle required for MFT (21mm diagonal), it can’t be that close to the sensor. Even if that distance is fairly short, you can’t just have a single lens there. Chances are you have to have at the very least three elements. Plus a design that can zoom and autofocus.

    The reason why the LX3 is so compact is because its sensor is, at best, one quarter the size of the MFT sensor. I’d say take the current lens size of the LX3 and try to envision it at twice its size. That’s most likely what would be needed to cover the same zoom range in a MFT sensor “compact.”

  • Barret

    The most probable change is gonna be a backlit sensor of the same or slightly bigger size than the previous sensor.
    This way the can keep the camera size about the same or hopefully smaller. The backlit sensor of the canon sd4000is takes amazing pictures in low light. Imagine if panasonic made a bigger one.

    Panny please give us the best possible IQ that can fit in a pocket… Not a bag!

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