43 Rumors

I’d have to say there is an error there, the E5 is comparable to my E620 and the E3 is much better. If not Olympus have got it dramatically wrong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quCMeSOikww

e5 is very good up to iso 400, then obvious loss in resolution from 800 onwards. Kind of what I would have expected from ep sensor and not what I want from something the size and price of a d700. Trouble is I still cant find anything to touch a 50-200 aperture and size wise. Im also deeply frustrated by the sense that this is it for these wonderful 43 lenses and I just feel doubtful that Ol will produce anything with the same quality for m43.

fist of all

calm down as those are pre-prod..

There are obviously much more detail in the E-5 files up to 800 especially
In the white areas there a HUGE PROBLEM though @1600 there with the E-5 in the shadow areas,
There must Be something wrong (noise reduction?/auto gradation?, both Olympus-classics…)
the blue dots are inacceptable for a body Of this class (even Olympus would be not dumb releasing
something like this to the market…)
even the EPL-1 did better in all the reviews.. guys who had
Hands on with the E-5 cam, report no banding and an chroma noise up to 3200 at least (of course there
Will be some natural noise, but not the kind of we had on the E-3 @ 3200…

So I’m pretty sure, this does not reflect the final verdict,

Reviews will tell the truth, soon…

The GOOD NEWS is that ISO 100 FINALLY looks EXTREMELY GOOD, this was exactly the last ‚bang‘ of detail I missed from most (from my 5D) when I changed back to the Oly E-3 (for the lenses..) I don’t know if there are people with similar experiences…

The chart also confirms, that the E-3 had a problem ESPECIALLY at iso 400, but
Performed better that many would like to admit at iso 800 + 1600… (3200 on the E-3 was just emergencies an completely useless…)

So overall positive, let’s see what the final firmware does. I predict usable ISO 3200 for the E-5 (should be no problem with the sensor..and the right tweaks)

For the job I use iso 100-400 99% of the time, but I absolutely NEED superb performance (not only good…) in this area, every bit more is of course a PLUS.

I am not in need for upgrade for now (from e-30)- have to say that i expected something extra new – but I am glad that there is some improvment.

I hope that Olympus does not abandon E-xx line and E-6xx – but my upgrade path will be e-5 or next top model.

I really don’ understand.
When you are speaking about DSLR you are speaking about a whole system, not for a special camera. In that case you are talking about a P&S or something like that.

Olympus system only advantage is the use of any lens you think about. That is the key point of the system. You decide if that matches your expectations.
All the other stuff which has been slowly accomplished are collaterals.

The Nikon d7000 is a typical case of specs hyperload, (like, look which spec boxes my cam ‘ticks’!!) which happens with almost every Canon/Nikon launch… I put the d7000, the GH2 and 7d in the in the same ‘hyperbole pot’ btw… -> the D90 was also this kind of box ticker, everybody loved it when in came out, I know at least 5 people in my surrounding which sold the d90 after the first weeks (maybe months…) and went back to the D300.. we’ve seen same delusion with the pentax k7 hype when it came out, then consternation, because it was outdone by the cheapo pentax Kx) how many pro’s do use a d90 professionally? how many will use the d7000 professionally? All (Nikon)pro’s I know use the D300 upwards (D700 or D2x or D3′s so to say..) because PRO’s don’t mind for body size/weight and specs, they need a stury body, serious size, fast external controls, iq which delivers be it at iso 100 or 50 or whatever low iso is available, which in the ideal case didn’t change too much over the years… The Nikon F100 still feels the same as a D700 in use. I don’t see the D7000 is a E-5 killer, it doesn’t even competer or even come close, Nikon glass just doesn’t match oly glass. I’ve been there before, so I know what I’m talking about.
finally nikon and pentax copied the sturdy weathersealed from oly, but they have few, IF ANY serious(!) weathersealed LENSES to offer… they just keep ticking boxes on the specsheet. if the E-5 will be priced around 1200 to 1300 which will happen sooner than oly likes, it will be one of the most interesting offers out there.. it’s not the single camera it’s the complete system offering which makes the difference, imo oly has a pretty unique standpoint in the market and is on a good way to gain some lost respect back.

Is it just my eyes going crazy seeing bad false colors at iso 1600?
Blue blobs all over black background and yellow dots all over white background?

This has already been said regarding the DSLR magazine comparison, and w/o regard to pre-production vs production models and presuming the exposures were the same (they would not bias it for something that silly, I can’t imagine):

Here’s my 2 cents…

RE: the DSLR mag the image at 200% in CS5

- Under ISO 400 the E-5 detail IQ is better in highlights, shadows are much cleaner and more consistant (not better DR, just no banding)

- ISO 800 is rendered much better. Banding not entirely eiminated but very much reduced. Shadow noise level very acceptable (E-3 barely acceptable). Midtone noise about the same.

ISO 1600 – still has problems with banding (see bottom of image).

It does look like there is a 1/3 or so stop shift in exposure, which could be a difference in the sensor sensitivity (???).

From this, should we conclude that we effectively gained a stop in terms of noise performance, but need another 1/3 stop or so to get equivalent exposure?

We don’t have EXIF,

Noise performance in shadow on the Facebook examples looks damned good at

In my opinion the Nikon d7000 is a typical case of ‘specs hyperload’ consumer product, (like, look which spec boxes my cam ‘ticks’ my cam does HD Video, so does an iphone4..!!) most of this things happen with almost every camera launch… I put the d7000, the GH2 and 7d in the in the same ‘hyperbole pot’ btw… -> the D90 was also this kind of box ticker when it hit the market, everybody just loved it, reviewers embraced it, I know at least 5 people in my surrounding which sold the d90 after the first weeks (maybe months…) and went back to the D300.. we’ve seen same delusion with the pentax k7 hype when it came out, then consternation, because it was outdone by the cheapo pentax Kx) how many pro’s do use a d90 professionally? how many will use the d7000 professionally? All (Nikon) professionals I know use the D300 upwards (D700 or D2x or D3′s so to say..) because PRO’s don’t mind for body size/weight and specs, they need a sturdy body, serious size (clients might ask what you shoot, so you better don’t show up with a pen (or a camera your clients wife might use with some kit-lenses…) pro’s need fast external controls, IQ which delivers be it at iso 100 or 50 or whatever lowest iso is available, in the best caste the design didn’t change too much over the years… The Nikon F100 still feels the same as a D700 in practical use. I don’t see the D7000 is a E-5 killer it doesn’t even compete or even come close, Nikon glass just doesn’t match oly glass. (call the D300s an E-5 competitor…) I’ve been there before, so I know what I’m talking about.
finally nikon and pentax copied the sturdy weathersealed concept from Oly, (not the only thing copied over the last couple of years..) but they lack serious(!) weathersealed LENSES.. they just keep ticking boxes on the specsheet, and it’s legitimate that they do it. But if the E-5 will be priced around 1200 to 1300 which will happen sooner than we all think, it will be one of the most unique and interesting offers out there.. it’s not the single camera it’s the complete system offering which makes the difference, imo oly has a pretty unique standpoint in the market and is on a good way to gain some lost respect back

to Jaw: great backup gear you own now. What was your previous backup gear?