(FT5) New Panasonic X lens series coming (PRO lenses)
I was working on that rumor since a couple of weeks (and I told you here that there would be a surprise). Now our friend Andrew from EosHD beat me on time and published a part of the surprise
Yes it’s true, Panasonic will announce a new Micro Four Thirds pro lens series. It will be called “X“. What EosHD didn’t mention is that the 14-42mm and 45-175mm lenses will be the very first lenses having that “X” mark! Unlike Andrews speculation there will be no 12-50mm or 45-300mm zooms yet. I have been told the new lenses are an “optical revolution” because they are incredibly compact, do have a high optical quality, powerzoom and inner focusing. The lenses are made with both worlds in mind, still photography and video recording. I am currently collecting info about those lenses but it’s clear that Panasonic is putting very high expectations in this new project. One of the source was actually very impressed by the new kit lens performance. When he saw the lens he thought this would be a new “cheap” zoom lens. But he image quality and the new size and features will have a “WOW” reaction even on more serious photographers. The source strongly believes this will become a very popular line for amateurs and pro photographers!
As I said that is only the first part of the surprise, the second part will be published as soon as I get more out of my sources! Thanks for your patience!
P:S.: I repeat. There iwll be no GF7 yet!




Sören
2 years ago |Hmm, cheapo Kit-Lenses with Pro-lable?…
jules
2 years ago |Even if they perform A1 as in no chroma, frigging, distortion, vignette, I mean no nothing, that they out resolve the 16 megapix sensor and have that je-ne-sais-quoi character as a bonus, I mean …a powerzoom rated pro…?
bilgy_no1
2 years ago |The Powerzoom would be good for video, because twisting the zoom ring causes severe shake and is not very precise.
What I hope is that ‘Pro’ also means: large aperture
nobody
2 years ago |Yes, that bugs me as well…
Seb
2 years ago |Maybe they will come bundled with PRO art filter, PRO scene mode and PRO smile detection ?
Thomas S
2 years ago |LOL! And PRO iA mode!
mick / Lumix
2 years ago |.
NiKo
2 years ago |Now you’re teasing us with the second part. Bad you
Mr. Reeee
2 years ago |It keeps all on the hook….
max
2 years ago |pro lens and no pro camera? wtf
Jimmy Shaw
2 years ago |Well, hopefully the price doesn’t move up to the pro level.
Agent00soul
2 years ago |If they have power zoom, they will most likely power collapse like digicam lenses. I suppose that could make them very compact without the hassle of having to extend them manually, like Olympus kit lens. Let’s just hope that they don’t collapse as soon as the camera goes into sleep mode, so you have to wait for the lens to extend when you want to shoot.
Nico Foto
2 years ago |Hmmmm. A collapsible zoom like digicams. What I don’t like about that is:
1) More mechanical things to go wrong.
2) More possibilities for sucking dust into the lens – not good.
3) Doesn’t “look” nice IMO, but, if the iq is there, i guess I could live with it, even more if the compact size promise is up to the hype.
It might be a smart move, having really small zooms – that would help further differentiate m43 from NEX (which, as we all know has its achilles heel in lenses size).
Narretz
2 years ago |This is madness … so they make collapsible zoom lenses for their small cameras, but the lenses will be pro, and therefore cost more most P&S upgraders will afford? Or are they intended for the small-pro camera that is yet to come?
I am confuse.
I mean such a lens would be nice on a GF1 as well, but I’d rather have some fast primes. Or of course the mythical 12-50.
Brod1er
2 years ago |I agree. Does seem contradictory to class them as high spec X lenses but then claim they are low cost. Something is not right here. Maybe they are as low cost as the 7-14 f4!?!?
Floyd
2 years ago |EosHD mentioned a 20mm-1.7-sized 14-42 X, really admin ?
Starred
2 years ago |Interesting! Would love a fast hq zoom with constant aperture
Oliver
2 years ago |I suggest: Let´s wait and see. All we know now is that we don´t know anything.
Martin
2 years ago |Ave Socrates!
Mr. Reeee
2 years ago |+100
Really. These are R U M O R S.
Hold off on wringing of hands, gnashing of teeth or going ballistic until there’s something tangible, like images, specs and prices. There’s plenty of time for all that after the official announcement… If there is one.
Dummy00001
2 years ago |Very true. In mean time, I would have appreciated an explanation what the hell “power zoom” is and why it is a such big deal.
I thought it is simply couple of buttons – zoom in and zoom out (and motor to drive the zoom) – but reaction here suggests that it is something more sinister, directly impacting quality of optics…
dyna
2 years ago |Hey Dummy00001 Power Zoom lenses were around back in the early 90′s and were a total failure where reliability came into play. Hence the scaredycat response you’ve seen hereabouts.
MY scaredycat issues come from the fact that the smaller Panasonic attempts to make their lenses, the more they have to rely on software correction to save them. And I’m not a big fan of that.
gary
2 years ago |How can they be pro and compact – that would imply they are slow ie 3.5 to 5.6 range…
jules
2 years ago |there are some 3.5/5.6 L lenses. But not in the standard zoom range.
Jim
2 years ago |I don’t think pro has to be fast…
If the lens was pin sharp corner to corner at all appatures, was free of CA and near perfictly free of distortion, kept a constant apature and retrofocal in design, with good/respectable macro ability (of course with fast focus, fixed front element and filter thread)… Then I think it could be classed as pro, usefull (perfict) in good light conditions, so your not lugging too much lens in more demanding physical situations….
Pro can’t just mean huge appature… or Huge price … but that tends to be all what people think pro should be…. To be pro it needs to be a very usable lens, the kind that helps you get shots with as little hinderance as possible – and thats it…. in good light you need much more than a big apature!
Not that I don’t want to see a constant F1.4 11-60mm for m4/3
Kralin
2 years ago |small 14-42 zoom would be very welcome, but of a better optical quality than the one we have now.
I have a budget of 500 euro to spend on new lenses for my new G3, and it is hard to decide. let see what happen in the next day. today I would invest all in the 25mm, each time I see a photo taken with that lens
it as the WOW effect.
Mr. Reeee
2 years ago |I’d rather have one WOW lens than a pile of MEH lenses.
Why not pick up a good 50mm manual prime to go with the PL25mm?
You could ask around and see if any family or friends have unused 35mm film cameras and lenses kicking around, taking up space. Hey, you never know.
Chris
2 years ago |Wow. Tiny and good quality, pick any two of two?! Would be very intrigued by that.
I guess if they can make tiny pro-level lenses then they can also make tiny kit-lens quality lenses. Something like that on a GF3 could slay the advanced compact market…
So much for the ‘what’s the point of making small bodies because the camera + standard zoom package will never be pocketable’ argument, perhaps.
More info please Admin, you little tease!:-D
YouDidntDidYou
2 years ago |Micro four thirds justs gets better and better
it’s really going to be an all round system for everyone…
Nico Foto
2 years ago |I’d rather have it be a niche system for enthusiast photographers, but that doesn’t bring lots of money in does it
We need the consumers to bring money, so oly and panny can spend more in R&D, and throw us a bone here and there, like the leica 25mm, the oly 12mm and so on…
DamDong
2 years ago |Cheaper Pro Lenses? Get confused.
Oliver
2 years ago |Nobody told they´re going to be cheap!
Techfreak
2 years ago |Here you go http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-gf7-announcement-in-decemberjanuary-only-45-175mm-coming-soon/
“Ultra compact and cheap”
Oliver
2 years ago |Oh yes, and this rumor was released some days before, and then, suddenly, the same lens seems to convert into a pro lens … come on!
Dummy00001
2 years ago |They might be “cheap” when compared to cine lenses.
“Cheap” is relative/comparative denomination. It makes no sense unless it is specified to what it is compared to.
Mike
2 years ago |I believe it will be a special series – but not pro. X will be the comsumer label then. Why not, then still Leica can be the Pro Label
Techfreak
2 years ago |Leica would be nice
kesztió
2 years ago |Admin,
pleeease, try to find out whether “powerzoom” lenses can also have manual zoom ring or not.
If these so called pro lenses had just servo-motorised zoom mechanism, they would be OK for video, but a big No-No for stills!
admin
2 years ago |Will ask!
ha
2 years ago |If implemented like focus by wire it would be quite natural in use and avoid all those stuff related strong external forces on zoom mechanics.
So there may be a benefit in mechanics to be used to provide smaller size and improved optical parameters like aperture, IQ, …
Eric
2 years ago |+1
I’m trying to keep an open mind about the power zoom, but I simply can’t imagine wanting that feature as a photographer. Small size and high IQ is very good news though.
Beesmo
2 years ago |Why no no for stills? You’re kidding?
Eric
2 years ago |As a photographer I simply prefer the tried and true twist zoom mechanism we’ve become accustom to. It’s much faster and more accurate then any power zoom camera I’ve ever used (I shot with a Canon G10 for a year along side my film cameras). Plus, I simply prefer the tactile feel I get from twisting the lens. At the rate we’re going cameras will soon be iPhones with interchangeable lenses losing all the mechanical controls in the process. Part of the reason I love photography is because it gets me out away from computers and into the real world. I love the mechanical aspect of a nice lens. Power zoom lenses will simply mean one more step in the wrong direction as far a I’m concerned.
That said, I’m aware I’m a grumpy old fart when it comes to photography, and not everyone is like me. So if Panasonic has found a way to make a tiny zoom lens that will appeal to soccer moms then good for them, but I personally prefer the direction Olympus is going with the 12mm f/2.
flash
2 years ago |I agree with you I like the mechanical feel of a fine camera. Computers mean boring work for me, and cameras are all about learning and expressing myself visually. One of the reasons why AF is not the high point of a camera for me. I also am satisfied getting one great image a month for my personal satisfaction; so there is no rush to compose most of the time.
I to realize that others are different and the vast majority of consumers think that a camera with out auto metering, aperture control, auto focus, video and power zoom; is NOT a pro or even a high quality camera. We here know that is wrong, but just look how the masses look at cameras when they are in a store that has a lot of different kinds.
Luckily the mFT has many lens options and more coming. Enough to keep most of us happy. I like what Mr. Resee suggest about using an older 50mm manual prime. They are and were inexpensive, but just about all of them had outstanding optics. I think I will have to get some adapters and try out the ones I have. It would be nice to have a good “portrait lens”.
M
2 years ago |Their you have it – m4/3 now has a kit lense labeled as “pro”, and you’ll zoom it by pushing camera buttons.
Keep dreaming about bright zooms. You will never get those. Never.
Martin
2 years ago |> Keep dreaming about bright zooms. You will never get those. Never.
Hi Pablo. You are wrong.
Bob B.
2 years ago |Pablum…did someone say Pablum?
Oliver
2 years ago |> Their you have it – m4/3 now has a kit lense labeled as “pro”, and you’ll zoom it by pushing camera buttons.
Ah, a clairvoyante!
NOW – we have nothing but rumors …
NOW – nothing is labeled with anything …
NOW – MFT cameras don´t have any zoom buttons.
Please, correct me if I´m wrong!
M
2 years ago |Zoom buttons are on the lense. Next camera iteration will have them on the back too.
Oliver
2 years ago |Sure? So I will have some useless exta buttons on my cam, when I´m going to use mft-lenses with zoom-ring??? Funny idea!
Jim
2 years ago |We are only an adapter (along the lines of the roumored sony one) away from being able to use the 4/3 lenses on m4/3 properly… IF that ever gets made then m43 will have the best zoom lenses known to mankind!
And having a powered zoom is a good thing not a cheep thing…. Because I know you can’t zoom as smoothly as a motor can…
Alexander
2 years ago |WHY not 14-150 ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!
Sven C.
2 years ago |I think the “X” could be like the Canon “DO” Lenses. I don´t believe, that Panasonic mark small lenses as “Pro”.
“Pro” lenses must have a big aperture, an outstanding image quality and the Telelenses must have enough control Buttons for AF and Hold-AF. That´s all nothing for small lenses.
For me i hope of something between Sony 70-400 G SSM and Nikon 200-400/4 for around 2000-3000 € with half of the weight of the Nikon 200-400
PS: Please excuse my bad english^^
voldenuit
2 years ago |The Canon DO lenses have horrible IQ, though.
Jojo
2 years ago |The 45-175mm zoom can’t be a “cheap nasty” and a “Pro” lens, can it? Which are you saying it is?
jojo
2 years ago |Actually, the “X” stands for x files and paranormal activities like ultra compact power zoom, stellar resolving power, silent inner focusing, auto collapsible lens…and CHEAP. Maybe that’s technologies coming from outter space.
houdini
2 years ago |Want 12 -70, brighter existing, or 14-90 are the focal distances, it will be popular! Let it be expensive, with in reasonable limits!
Bob B.
2 years ago |The info from Andrew at EosHD seems sketchy at best with a lot of speculation thrown in and some more than inappropriate comments. I am putting no stock in any of that. Obviously something is coming and it sounds like more hype marketing with so-so product.
If ANY of that is true sounds like the word Pro should not be in the sentence. Maybe it is the new Barbie Lens Line?
Martin
2 years ago |Bingo! It should be called BLL instead of X!
Bob B.
2 years ago |IMO the 7-14mm f/4, the 20mm f/1.7 and the two Leica-Branded lenses (I own 3 of these lenses and they are quite excellent for the MFT form factor)….are the only lenses that should fit a “pro” designation from Panasonic at this point. They are all very good lenses (and pricey to go with it). I am not personally familiar with the new 25mm f1.4 but that looks like a winner. If collapsable “power zooms” are going to be a Pro X line….I think Panasonic has done their existing line of lenses a disservice with that moniker.
Guess we will just have to wait and see. I guess more is always better tho….more choices for everyone!
Mr. Reeee
2 years ago |If it’s not Hello Kitty or Godzilla branded, I’m selling all my M4/3 gear!
I mean, REALLY, Barbie is just so crass and sexist!
Bob B.
2 years ago |um..OK…Barbie AND Ken line of lenses?????? LOL. Kit form would include the optional photo studio, complete with props, lighting and of course a dressing room for all of those hot outfits!
Bob B.
2 years ago |…and the GF4, which will be small enough for Barbie and Ken’s little hands! (will include power zoom button on rear of body!).
Ulli
2 years ago |Maybe the zooms will include ceramic lenses?
Jim
2 years ago |cool…. whats the deal with ceramic lenses?…. I’ll have to have a wiki on that
Jim
2 years ago |ah ok …. well looks like a stronger material with a 25% higher refractive index than the best glass… equal transparancy with top glass too – and into the infrared zone!
This should alow smaller lenses of the same performance!
Also with a grater refractive index, lenses of mega apature (maybe ~f0.5) might well be possible!
looks like casio is the only one using this tech,,, any info on panasonic using this?
Björn Utpott
2 years ago |The term pro implies that it’s not your typical aperture compromised zoom. I have no interest in a f/3.5-5.6 zoom, no matter how compact it is. I’d rather use a compact prime. To appeal to the “pro” segment, the new X lenses would have to be brighter than the average kit zooms.
Mr. Reeee
2 years ago |The term “PRO” implies marketing hype.
There’s no “pro” branding for the real deal.
Nico Foto
2 years ago |+1 in general that’s correct
nothing that ever had “pro” in its designation ever was pro…lol
Redkite
2 years ago |What about Apple’s MacPro and MacBook Pro range of computers used by the vast majority of graphics professional throughout the world.
uberzone
2 years ago |Case in point right there. There are no “pro” specs in those laptops. Generic run of the mill parts. They just excel in looks and usability which makes them attractive to graphics professionals (BTW i’m typing this on a Macbook Pro, so no bias here).
Voldenuit
2 years ago |+1.
Business laptops have business-centric features – security, remote management, corporate tools, IT-friendly imaging and management support.
You find these on Thinkpads, Elitebooks, Latitudes, Toughbooks.
Not on Macbooks.
hp has a line of business laptops called ‘Probooks’, though they are the only exception I can think of.
Dummy00001
2 years ago |Business laptop != pro laptop. If IT junkies like it – it doesn’t mean automatically that the professionals who have to do actual work like them. Plus, you mistakenly compare software features while talking about hardware. (And you are rather misinformed about features of Mac OS X.)
In the end, definition of “Pro” depends solely on the profession. I have seen lots and lots of crappy tools which were professional in the sense that they were required to do the job. And they were crappy because the type of work and price of the work precluded the tools from being of higher quality.
So for example, if you bought MacBook Pro and keep it all the time indoors, attached to the wall outlet, then you are definitely overpaid. Yet, in many professions, people need robust portable computer with good battery life and full size keyboard. That’s where MacBook Pro has an appeal. Comparable HP laptops costs only a bit cheaper, but weigh more and have shorter battery life.
Mr. Reeee
2 years ago |Hmmm, I forgot about that.. I guess I hardly think about my macBook Pro much, I just use it.
But, clearly, you’ve never used one.
Besides, Macs needn’t waste 3/4 of their processor cycles eradicating malware or fighting against a garbage OS.
@Voldenuit, clearly you’ve never used a Mac or Mac OS X Server, either.
voldenuit
2 years ago |Actually, I’ve been using Macs since System 7, and my first computer was an Apple IIe.
But I don’t consider MacbookPros to be ‘professional’ laptops. Now a Mac Pro on the other hand…
Redkite
2 years ago |@ uberzone. I worked in the graphics industry all my life and I can assure you our Macs weren’t bought because they looked nice . . .
dumbo
2 years ago |except the very cool rb67 pro S
io
2 years ago |No fast lenses, no WOW and not PRO.
Hiplnsdrftr
2 years ago |Would like a Pro-GF1 with a super fast Pro wide angle pancake lens. Oh yeah, and with a built in Pro viewfinder. Built in ok flash as well…
Mike
2 years ago |G3 + 14mm Pancake maybe?
Brod1er
2 years ago |These lenses get more interesting! If they ate fast, high quality and compact this would be revolutionary but seems too good to be true.
But, what about the other part of the surprise? It’s not the 12-50 or the GF7 (Admin is pretty categorical), it’s not a new basic or mid tier cam (GF3 and G3 have only just launched). By a process of elimination it MUST be either the GH3 OR a new camcorder. I suppose there is a possibility of it just being another lens, but it would be unusual to launch so many lenses without a new body.
It’s not
ha
2 years ago |> but it would be unusual to launch so many lenses without a new body
A video cam place between GHx and AF100? There’s still a large price gap to be filled.
Martin
2 years ago |> It’s not
What? A dead parrot?!
Mr. Reeee
2 years ago |Now, do you have any cheese at all?
TB
2 years ago |Super wide,super distortion fisheye please Panasonic-more than the 8mm with low F-stop.like the century .3x on a VX1.
houdini
2 years ago |Yes, unfortunately it’s just a rumor, not fast zoom lenses.( If they wanted, a long time ago done…
Techfreak
2 years ago |Nice! Hopefully, it is gonna be soon, as I am thinking of buying something new
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Bob B.
2 years ago |Yawn..um…how about that (those Mets) new Nikon Mega Camera rumor for next week?
Mumbly
2 years ago |PRO-lenses with such “professional” characteristics as power-zoom and/or video ability!?! Professionals would prefer fast zooms (e.g. halfway compact 35-100/f2.8) over such stupid gimmicks; but Panasonic doesn’t seem to get it…
Kylberg
2 years ago |So we now have a rumor about a new lens line-up that has everything….. We still miss information about aperture though.
If live up to this in reality, the m4/3 has about doubled its competitiveness due to its range o lenses for different needs and wallets. Do not expect X-series to be cheap.
Agent00soul
2 years ago |Not to speak of making the huge NEX lenses look even sillier…
Bob B.
2 years ago |+1 (I was thinking that too!).
DonTom
2 years ago |Gee, what a lot of negative crap gets burbled here. If even half of this rumour is true I’ll be delighted. Don’t be afraid of a rocker type power zoom, one of the P&S upgraders you sneer at will be happy to show you how to drive it……!
And go take a look at Lord Nelson’s telescope to see how a collapsible zoom could also have a large objective lens and decent aperture.
Two years ago, the only large sensor alternative to a DSLR was a $10,000 Leica, and that’s before you bought a MF prime lens to feel clever with!
I’m really looking forward to seeing what’s available when my E-PL1 stops working. Might be a while though, given that my first Olympus, an IS-1000 with a POWER ZOOM is still going strong 20 years later. Just can’t trust these sneaky Japanese optical engineers, can we!
TheVoiceoverman
2 years ago |+1
dumbo
2 years ago |remember this is the same bunch of people who were excited about the idea of a tiny flash inserted into a viewfinder. most of the people who say what ‘pro’ is or isn’t, dont have a clue about much anyways lol
a_lesss
2 years ago |Well, if the rumor is true, it would not suprise me to see a body like this one coming along:
http://www.43rumors.com/ft4-panasonic-is-working-on-a-lens-with-powerzoom/
Anyway, I am onw my way to buy a used GH1 body that I got for almost nothing. By the time those new lenses (and body) will hit the shelves, I will have time to resell some lenses and the GH1 to get them if they are good
Frederick Hew
2 years ago |Right, this would be a video (centric?) camera specified lower than the AF101. The zoom is probably controlled by one of the rings (should be a spring loaded) with focus controlled by the other.
safaridon
2 years ago |If this picture of a prototype Panasonic power zoom lens is real than why should we be surprised by this development of new lenses and all the speculation? Clearly the prototype lens shows both focus & zoom rings so one has option to use the power zoom button. Also note the protype model picture shows a 300 designation, ie probably the projected new 45-300 superzoom? Yes it does appear smaller than the existing 100-300 design and we don’t know if it has a faster lens speed.
I expect the second part of the FT5 annoucement hinted at by admin will be a new camera to go with the above. I expected 2 new models to come all along by years end, a GF1 upgrade in a smaller body with opt EVF and a larger GL1 like the patent depiction ie ala L1 with inbody EVF.
Still no way to judge how much smaller the new lenses will be for the rumored 14-42 and 45-175mm lenses but expect them to still have focus and zoom rings if following the prototype design.
Jan Francois
2 years ago |I love all the clamoring for fast zooms. I’ll tell you what killed 4/3 in one word: Zooms. But since high spec fixed lenses have been introduced first this time, I think is ok to make a few for the zoomers.
Jan Francois
2 years ago |They do make sense for video, of course.
Mike
2 years ago |I believe the zooms are the only thing that keeps FT still (a little) alive. Nobody would invest 1800$ in a E5, if there wouldn’t be the 7-14mm, 9-18mm, 11-22m, 12-60mm, Leica 14-150mm, 14-35mm or 35-100mm. These are Zooms with unmatched image quality.
Frederick Hew
2 years ago |I would think it’s the uncompetitive price / performance ratio that hinders 4/3, not the bias towards zooms.
You may have a preference for primes (so do I) but you would be wrong to confuse that with what the mass DSLR users expect and eventually buy. Look around at the Canon / Nikon crowd… do most of them use primes? I doubt that.
burnardo
2 years ago |power zoom is great for video, but if you are doing a lot of “run and gun” work 14 (28) is not wide enough.. for me it looks like they bring the same lenses again and again with minor differences.. just like HTC smartphones.. I’m waiting for a lens like the iphone, one real thing
io
2 years ago |you mean the iPhone 5, or the 4, or the 3,… ?
a_lesss
2 years ago |feature table:
-> pro optic quality, to satisfy prosumers, check
-> power zoom, to satisfy both video and P&S upgraders, check
-> small size, to meet general demand and beat Nex, check
-> cheap price, to sell to all the above, check
yeah… maybe cheap price can be achieved by selling the lens to all mkt segment.
What if:
-> the powerzoom can be triggered by turning a zooming wheel on the barrel. Could feel almost as natural as a regular zoom.
-> the powerzoom can also be triggered by a “rocker” around the shutter button (as in LX5 for instance) on future bodies…but can still be triggered with the zooming wheel also
Finally, what if:
Following the collapsible design of the new X lenses, Panasonic develops a new “consumer grade” 14-175 small & cheap… It will appeal consumer of the “bridge” market if the package body+lens is similar form factor as a bridge… well maybe I am going too far, am I?
Zaph
2 years ago |The switches were the issue with the power zooms of the past. They were slow, delayed, and imprecise. If they’ve fixed those issues, then it works just as well as a regular zoom.
Henrik
2 years ago |I remember how the new Oly cameras (E-P3, E-PL3 etc.) got rave predictions for groundbreaking image quality here on 43Rumors. Later, when the cams were actually there, DPreview found they are at least one generation behind in image quality.
Now we hear that the new tiny motorized Panasonic kit-zooms have tremendous quality. Anybody wants to bet on it? Would like to know how many “sources” are actually paid by the industry for spreading – whisper, whisper – favorable “rumors”. Viral marketing 2.0 maybe.
DC
2 years ago |+1,000,000
Rutrem
2 years ago |…if those lenses would have an wider aperture and better IQ will be a very welcome addition to existing lenses.
A pro series of lenses… maybe the next gen GH3 and GF7 will be more professional cameras than those we have today.
i think that is hard for Oly/Pana to drag some established professional photografers from Nikon/Canon dslrs, is much easier let the amateurs and semipro that have embrace the m4/3 from the start to grow with this standard.
jeff
2 years ago |I think when it comes to Panasonic it would be more relevant to post rumors of when they think their products are actually going to ship – PanasonObamic?
Observer
2 years ago |-> pro optic quality, to satisfy prosumers, check
-> power zoom, to satisfy both video and P&S upgraders, check
-> small size, to meet general demand and beat Nex, check
-> cheap price, to sell to all the above, check
Yes It will all come true — this is the new tech liquid lens folks! Google it!
Stuff of wet dreams heh!
Aaron
2 years ago |So should we expect powerzoom in all the X branded lenses or just these specific two?
As an AF100 user what I would like to see Panasonic implement is a new detachable handgrip with a dedicated zoom rocker with a remote cable out the back so that we could control the lens at variable speeds. Then some firmware to support it of course. Maybe just a dream..
Olympius
2 years ago |New, high quality 14-42 and 45-175 lenses that are super compact, ultra sharp, and have power zoom? I’ll take one of each, thank you very much Panasonic.
Olympius
Gravityloss
2 years ago |The problem with collapsible lenses is that they take so long to open – you miss all the action. I’ve stopped using a lens cap on the 20 mm for the same reason. A good uv filter gives even better protection. I also dont turn the camera off much when I’m carrying it. So, when you press the shutter halfway, you have focus in perhaps 0.2 seconds and can shoot immediately. Only the video start inconsistency and delay bugs the hell out of me with gf1. I sometimes use a cheap nikon compact and the lens extension delay is super annoying.
jul
2 years ago |I’d love for these X lenses to be small and high quality.
Ditch the focus and zoom rings and make it sealed and powercollapsable.
Then let me save focal length in-camera. That would be awesome.
Then cycle through the focal lengths with a dedicated or fn button. 14mm, 17mm, 25mm, 42mm boom
Boooo!
2 years ago |Why do I have this horrible dreadful feeling that the new powerzoom lenses will not have a working zoom on Olympus m4/3 bodies?
TempTag
2 years ago |I would rather see Panasonic do an “enthusiast” line of autofocus lenses that get rid of focus by wire (for when we want to manually focus) and feature an aperture ring, distance indicator, weather sealing, fast glass plus great optical specs without resorting to digital trickery – of course maybe my hopes do not really fit within the m43 small aesthetic…
kuayR
2 years ago |pro lens? wtf. m4/3 should be dead ..soon
Cteve
2 years ago |You guys are so doubtful and negative. If Olympus had announce this people would be jumping in joy and anticipation. Why so much criticism toward Panasonic? lol!
Gylles
2 years ago |Because Panasonic keeps making different version of the same lenses…
Agrivar
2 years ago |And how many kit 14-42 lenses has oly made? 3!!!
spam
2 years ago |A week ago it was an interview where Panasonic said that no pro body is coming
http://www.43rumors.com/panasonic-has-no-plan-to-make-cameras-with-built-in-stabilization-pro-cameras-coming/
Today it’s a new line of pro lenses is FT5.
Gylles
2 years ago |I guess they don’t want to make pro body’s but they do want to make pro lenses…?
scott
2 years ago |They are making the pro lenses for the af100. That is there baby right now. Its making them money.
safaridon
2 years ago |Panasonic never said that no pro body is coming, only that it had no plans to produce a pro camera with built-in stabilization! Just look at the quote, specifically referenced to IBIS.
Nico Foto
2 years ago |What does PRO mean to you all guys? This is what i’m wondering.
I’d bet every single person has a different definition…
Milos Janata
2 years ago |Pro lenses has been used at least a single time for a paid job.
This is what We can expect
jeff
2 years ago |I just used the $99 50mm Canon on a job seemed to work fine
Scott
2 years ago |Pro to me means durable to use everyday. No variying aperture, doesnt mean has to be 2.0 or lower just doesnt change.
John
2 years ago |Pro to me, means:
1. Big Bright Fast Aperature
2. Durable and solidly built. Can be plastic or metal, just nothing cheap looking/feeling
3. Manual controls galore. Pros should be able to control their lens to the smallest detail. This also means focusing ring must act similar to the 12mm from oly.
4. Physical Distinction from other lenses is a plus/bonus. Similar to the red ring around L lenses, I’d like the Pro line to have a distinguishing feature.
scott
2 years ago |What your describing is a certain kind of Pro. Are you saying the zuiko 7-14 4.0 isnt pro because its 4.0?
Boooo!
2 years ago |The 7-14 is actually a 2.8-4.0, but crippled in software (?!).
scott
2 years ago |what planet are you from?
Boooo!
2 years ago |From the planet “press the lens release button and the 7-14 is at f/2.8 at 7mm”.
Alternatively, I’m from the planet “press the DOF preview button at 7mm f/4 and see the viewfinder go a stop dimmer”.
Try it.
Just don’t ask me why the aperture on the 7-14 is restricted like that, because only Olympus knows. Many other lenses behave the same, although not as dramatic (with the 7-14, the difference is a full stop; with many others, it’s a third of a stop).
Anonymous
2 years ago |Pro glass for me :
Clarity, color,sharpness ( usable at wide open) very fast auto focus and usualy fast glass in it class with constant aperture
Boooo!
2 years ago |“What does PRO mean to you all guys? This is what i’m wondering.”
“Pro” is usually the opposite of “noob”
For me (and now, cue the flamefest), in this context, 4/3 = pro, m4/3 = noob.
spam
2 years ago |I certainly agree that there are some 4/3 lenses that I’d say was pro, not sure about bodies though.
IMO Pro lenses don’t necessarily have to be fast, but excellent IQ is important. Build quality and good AF-performance (for AF lenses of course) is also important.
Anonymous
2 years ago |I don’t care with the name ; Pro or X – if doesn’t impress me with the… Wow factor , I guess I will have to look to another provider lens such as HG & SHG from Oly ,and bye- bye pany
Anonymous
2 years ago |It doesn’t matter what they call ; PRO or X , if Panasonic can’ t deliver a good result or A Wow factor , we dont have to buy it and hope that Oly would come up with HG &SHG GLASS
Jan Francois
2 years ago |“Pro” is that quality trolls, fanboys and many review sites, best comprehend.
aaiek
2 years ago |I was in a camera store again yesterday comparing all the mirrorless units against each other and the APS-C DSLRs. It struck me how similar in size they were when fitted with the larger zoom lenses. There was a new EPL3 with the 14-150mm lens fitted and next to it was a Pentax K5 with the longer of the kit lenses fitted. Really not that much difference on overall length; 2.5 – 3cm at most. Body was of course larger, but maybe more manageable with this size lens fitted. Body and lens were well balanced and not out of proportion like a NEX.
I had read this post about smaller zooms before the shopping excursion and thought that the real benefit of M43 is size and portability. If it were not the case, then how many would be using a camera which costs the same, if not more than a DSLR with comparable quality image output and functionality.
If a company attempts to create smaller lenses for M43 then I fully support and welcome any efforts to do so. If these new lenses have similar or improved image quality to my longer 40-150mm and was at the right price I would seriously consider it.
IMHO this is what M43 has over the DSLR category. If not, what is the point.
Boooo!
2 years ago |The benefit of m4/3 is low size and weight, which is *mutually exclusive* with things such as fast, bright zooms and rugged weather-sealed cameras.
What m4/3 allows are small, wide, fast primes.
The moment you venture into the territory of bright zooms, you can’t really make them smaller than 4/3 versions – and that’s, amongst other things, because the zooms will have complex retrofocus designs, which add to size and weight. Slow zooms work relatively fine, as you can see, and there’s potential for miniaturization through some compromises in build and picture quality.
Bright zooms require big glass elements; that means more weight.
More weight requires more battery power (which requires bigger batteries and larger cameras to accomodate them).
More weight means slower focusing and more expensive and more durable motors and mechanisms.
Finally, bigger and heavier lenses means that you need bigger and heavier cameras to balance the lenses well.
The mythical 12-50 f/2.5-3.3 is either going to be very similar to the 12-60 f/2.8-4, or it’s indeed going to be smaller, but severely optically compromised… Or it won’t even be made for the next couple of years.
m4/3 isn’t a magical system that makes *everything* smaller. It makes _some_ things smaller, at the expense of overall versatility and lens quality.
If you want a small, portable, “prime” camera – pick something m4/3. Just don’t expect bright zooms and usable telephoto
zetton
2 years ago |if this rumor is true, great.
but one thing: I want 12-60mm (or so), that exists in 4/3 Olympus.
tele side 42-45 is a little bit shorter, and wide side 14 is also a little longer.
Boooo!
2 years ago |BTW, admin, you have a comment bug
Flat view shows comments that still await moderation.
Anonymous
2 years ago |If they can make 12-70mm F/2.5-3.3 with a silent fast focusing that will be great , and I don’t mind if it litlle bit bigger,.. And damn I need 17mm F1.4
spam
2 years ago |It would be a lot bigger
Chris
2 years ago |Admin, any news on whether these new lenses will have Power OIS, rather than Mega OIS? It’s puzzled me why some of Panasonic’s compacts such as the TZ10 have more advanced OIS tech than on its interchangeable lens range, especially as the TZ lens is, of course, collapsible.
Whilst I’m at it, any news on Fuji’s ‘big announcement’ next month?:-)
tigermanrocks
2 years ago |Personally zoom “likes” for me would be:
- In and around the size of Panas current 14-42mm. Not concerned if this is achieved by a collapsable design so long as in normal shooting mode it doesnt extend as far as the existing 150mm offerings!
- go to 60mm at most f4, faster better but at a reasonable price point.
- not a cheap kit lens construction so has an eye to quality with the intention that this is a go to shooter
- Dont care starting length: already have 9-18 and 20mm so would prefer to minimise the overlap
- <$1000 price point
- Wouldnt be averse to Sigma or any of the other m43 signees to actually contribute and make this
Snappy Snapperson
2 years ago |A new Panasonic “X” series? In product design, the prefix “X” is short for “experimental”. It’s used to denote “alpha” or “prototype” hardware. I tend to doubt Panasonic’s marketing would be foolish enough to name a shipping product “X” anything. Perhaps their reasoning is that if Sony can call a product line “Alpha” then they can too, essentially. Monkey see, monkey do…duh.