(FT5) Awesome new Panasonic camera with large(?) sensor, fixed 3x zoom lens and innovative Leica designed rangefinder!

There are days you can’t miss to visit 43rumors…and today is one of those days. Finally after three months of wait a new camera is going to be announced. And I am sure that many of you will like the rumors we are going to post today! As usual 43rumors is the first to report you the news
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{?>Panasonic LX3 } ?>). The new camera will have 3x zoom lens which our source told us to be an awesome Leica lens. We do not have a reliable info about the focal lenght but we expect to get more detailled infos soon. And now hold in your breath…(drumming)….it will have a special rangefinder-type optical viewfinder that is borrowed from Leica with marks in it for max zoom and fully wide angle!
For Leica fans: One of our new sources said that there could be a Leica version of the camera. That sounds a little bit weird because Leica already launched a very similar camera…the Leica X1. We will try to confirm the rumor as soon as possible!
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and the Leica X1
are the only large sensor compact and fixed lens cameras to date but both do use a prime lens only.
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Jeffrey D
3 years ago |I just don’t believe this rumor. Zoom lenses for large sensors are large. There’s no way around it. This camera would be an LX3 alike, but with a larger zoom range and a substantially larger sensor, but barely any larger than an LX3? That makes no sense.
Also, having a rangefinder doesn’t make sense for this kind of camera.
Also, doesn’t Leica refuse to add their stamp to lenses which need in-camera correction? Even the slowest lens would need *a lot* of in-camera correction to work.
mmm
3 years ago |@fatcat
“For eon ago, canon S70 has it. Better that blah-blah ‘with marks in it for max zoom and fully wide angle!’ .. S70′s VF is zooooomed .. its viewing angle varies along with the lens’s focal length!!”
Pinhole-sized viewfinders from compact digicams don’t compare to what I presume a Leica optical ‘RF-styl’ VF would offer here. To each their own…
Alfons
3 years ago |Sounds NICE!
don
3 years ago |While many are in disbelief that such a camera is even possible, I think the problem is most of us know little about optical designs and are assuming our assumptions based on the size of much larger concentric design lenses with parallel projections while the collapsing compacts do not use this design. Instead the same small lens may be used in a 30X superzoom with 1/2.3″ sensor will be only 20X with a 1/1.7″ sensor at the same lens speed as is the case with the Fujis? Pany was rumored to be working on a 24-140/f2.5-3.3 lens and this could be a superzoom in 1/1.3″ format and 24-72/f3.5-4.5 in m4/3 format? So both Pany models may be linked with the same basic lens with simple in lens leaf shutter. The LX3 is 4.4X form factor while the 4/3 is 2X so doesn’t that mean a loss of only 1 stop in lens speed going to m4/3 sensor with the same focal lengths?
You only have to look at the latest ML500 lens of 24-72/f1.7-2.4 and how small it is to realize that by shortening the distance from sensor to lens to fill the optical circle of the m4/3 sensor, the fixed lens in a 4/3 system need not be much larger if the speed is reduced by one stop(?) so in my mind a 24-72/f2.5-3.5 looks plausible using a difference sensor to flange distance? You use the camera to make corrections for distorsion and CA then would can have a design with much greater angles to the horizontal enabling use of much smaller lens elements especially at the wide angle end and that is what normally requires the greatest size of lens elements. Alternatively at the tele end the lens speed would be further reduced and that is why the 72mm max at tele end to retain more lens speed.
Hope some one with more knowledge then me on these matters will set me straight if I am way off base in these assumptions?
I think the reason the manufactures have been so slow to introduce such a revolutionary camera with stationary lens in a larger format as they didn’t want to detract from lucrative lens sales. However in this case Pany has much less to fear with fewer lenses and most likely the high resolution EVF or optical viewfinders will be expensive addons to keep the basic camera competitive?
Mark
3 years ago |K, do you even know what 3x zoom means? Let’s say you want to choose between two lenses. One is a 10x super zoom, the other is just a crappy 2.5x. One is 38-380mm, the other is 200-500. Which is the 10x zoom and which has more reach? 3x zoom says nothing about a lens design or what its application could be.
Zaph
3 years ago |“3x zoom says nothing about a lens design or what its application could be.”
It says a little.
A compact camera is going to start somewhere around 24-28mm, so end somewhere around 72-90mm on the long end for a 3x zoom.
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Mark
3 years ago |Zaph, it’s not unusual for a compact with 3x zoom to start at 35mm, which makes it very different from something with 28 or 24mm. I’m not saying this one will, but the term “3x zoom” is vague at best.
Godot
3 years ago |“Also, doesn’t Leica refuse to add their stamp to lenses which need in-camera correction?”
We’ve all heard that, and yet the Leica name is on the LX3/D-Lux 4, whose lens is well known to make heavy use of in-camera correction. Not to mention a host of other Panasonic compacts, including various Leica-badged ones.
And then there’s the M system. “The 6-bit code on lenses gives information about optic vignetting characteristics, permitting software adjustment.” (per Wikipedia, which as I understand it is correct in this case.)
So maybe that much-quoted Leica rep really meant “we won’t put our name on an interchangeable lens that requires in-camera geometric correction.” Or something like that.
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Freiherr
3 years ago |I found the post less than exciting. A new model compact with a four thirds sensor is really nothing to shout about. First, it shows that Panasonic isn’t coming out with something new….a better sensor, but rather rebadge an old sensor technology to a compact camera.
As you know, the only possible improvements in technology that can be made based on this assumption is that you will have a better image processor, which should not be far off from what Panasonic themselves have today.
By packaging an old sensor in a new compact, they are hoping you’d fall into the “upgrade” trap and part with your money. Having spent my time being a DSLR consultant, I have seen this happen too often.
Tech wise, you’re not getting more. Widget like features may appeal to some but if you are concern with image quality, then I would expect a jump in image capture performance, and since this is just not the case, I think we can dismiss this as just another compact gadget.
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