(FT5) E-P3 with built-in Eye-Fi support (fold down external flash)

I hope you will be here on Wednesday to follow the Olympus announcement! Announcement should be made at around 6-7am London time. In the meanwhile I am continually getting tidbits of rumors!
A source just told me that the E-P3 has built-in Eye-Fi support for controlling the Eye-Fi cards (Click here to see the cards on eBay). And as you know there will be a new flash too (the Olympus FL-300R). A new source told me that it works like the Sony’s F20AM (Click here to see the cards on eBay). For example you fold down to turn off.
And now a couple of confirmations:
1) A couple of sources confirmed that the 40-150 II R is coming too.
2) Sources are now certain the sensor is designed by Olympus (and produced by Panasonic). Olympus goal was to improve the dynamic range, color fidelity and autofocus speed.
3) New and known soruces keep saying AF speed is amazing

El Aura
11 months ago |Being able to configure a Eye-Fi card from within a camera would be cool. It’s a pain that you need a computer to change the upload location.
che
11 months ago |this is good stuff i guess especially the flash. Its my favorite flash design, and maybe the body of it could be even smaller if they use some kind of LiMH chargable battery to power it.
tmrgrs
11 months ago |Admin – Are any of your sources saying anything specific about how much the DR of this new sensor has been improved? Will it be any better than the ones in the GH2, GF3 & G3? This is about the only thing that still worries me as everything else being said about it sounds wonderful, especially the fast AF. Thanks.
frosti7
11 months ago |“Olympus goal was to improve the dynamic range, color fidelity” i have only one thing to say for that: YYEESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just what i was repeating here on a daily basis, DR+Color fidelity
mpgxsvcd
11 months ago |One issue with the Eye-Fi cards and the Panasonic cameras is that you can’t upload individual AVC-HD videos because the protection scheme is different for those files. MJPEG works though. Maybe the new Olympus cameras won’t have this issue.
Maley
11 months ago |” A couple of sources confirmed that the 40-150 II R is coming too.” Shouldn’t it be a 40-150 R ? Or did they redesign it completly? And what a bout a 17 R ? Or isn’t that lens bundled anymore ?
Maley
11 months ago |A thing I am really wondering about is why they didn’t care to design a sensor for the E-5 but do it now for the new PENs.
sneye
11 months ago |My guess: the sensor wasn’t ready for the E-5. That’s all.
Maley
11 months ago |They had like 3 years or so between E-3 and E-5 to design it. I can’t believe it takes that long to do it.
sneye
11 months ago |Perhaps they had trusted Panasonic for too long. Besides, with no experience in this area it must have taken a while.
AndyOz
11 months ago |I agree the sensor wouldnt have been ready. Wasnt there some deal where Oly had to use Panasonic sensors which ended early this year. Olympus might have been looking at other suppliers and Panasonic responded by letting them have more say in the sensor specification as a way of keeping them. Who knows. As long as the sensor performs nicely.
fta
11 months ago |AndyOz, correct. Agreement contracts can be a pain sometimes.
lnqo-M
11 months ago |sneye@ Yes maybe, but E-5 is more all weather camera, not in hard sunshine, but not a problem for i live in west coast of Norway, normal very rain weather.
tmrgrs
11 months ago |How do you know that they aren’t planning to update the E5? It’s only been 8 or 9 months since the E5 came out. Maybe later this year I’m thinking.
sneye
11 months ago |That would be a blow of biblical proportions in the face of the E-system followers who paid stupid money for an E-5. An E-XX would make slightly more sense, but even then we’re talking about a negligible probability.
tmrgrs
11 months ago |What a nightmare for you 4/3 DSLR users! Everytime there’s an upgrade, to be upset because you bought an earlier model that is now deficient and useless. Maybe they should forget about upgrades altogether so that some of you guys won’t be so unhappy. /sarcasm/
sneye
11 months ago |I’m perfectly happy. I happen to use both an E-5 (which is lovely. really.) and an E-P2. The E-5 is a much better camera. Its images are more detailed and less noisy than its little brother’s, but its biggest advantage is in terms of usability: it’s a little tank made to work in all conditions. It’s fast, accurate and reliable. In other words, the qualities of the E-5 are about endurance so it makes no sense to replace it every couple of years (and yes, its IQ is good enough for my needs).
The E-P2 is also a fine camera, but its strengths lie elsewhere. It’s sleek, quiet and fun to use with a fast prime. As appealing as the E-P3 may be, I’m in no rush to replace the E-P2 because I don’t need uber-fast AF or even a flash (for applications which require those things I have the E-5). Of course I’m tempted, but a 12/2 will have to come first. It will contribute to my photography a lot more than even immediate AF, two more stops of DR or clean ISO6400. One has to take things in the right proportions.
As to the reaction to an E-5 replacement released this year, of course it was tongue in cheek. I was only citing the “popular voice”.
Robbie
11 months ago |I think most Olympus users can understand.
Those who whine are probably not.
Olympus cameras, generally speaking, are very durable.
Despite having later incarnations, I am still using my E-1 and it still delivers.
tmrgrs
11 months ago |Tongue in cheek is hard to recognise in a text only forum. Fair enough. I’m also thinking of staying with the E-P2 for sometime while spending my limited funds on some of these new lenses like the 25/1.4 and 45/1.8. If the PEN-pro comes along in the next year or so, I’ll be a very enthusiastic early adopter though.
lnqo-M
11 months ago |I think the is so after E-3, E-30 come next year, so E-50 come soon, by better DR will be a good combe, you can shoise by E-5 or E-50 after weather.
Boooo!
11 months ago |It’s the same reason why the E-3 had a 10 Mpx sensor, and not long afterwards the E-30 and the E-620 got an improved 12 Mpx sensor with the same ISO and DR, but with more megapixels (thus easier to do NR) and far, far less banding.
Olympus cripples their flagship cameras and only updates them after 4-5 years; it’s their thing and it’s why they fail on the camera market.
Just wait until that “Pro PEN” comes out and then half a year later an all-plastic PEN Mini has better features and a better sensor, whereas the “Pro PEN” will (maybe) get an update in 2015, just before Olympus abandons micro 4/3 and jumps to pico 4/3 (with a 1/2.33″ sensor and an even shorter flange distance).
sneye
11 months ago |Olympus is an established manufacturer. It values “professional” features (such as optics, build quality and low-maintenance) much more than it does the latest and greatest silicon trickery. Stakes are that this attitude is about to change. We’ll see.
Boooo!
11 months ago |Yeah, because releasing half a dozen plastic PEN models that are entirely the same, along with, what, four? kit lens redesigns, is totally professional.
You have to hand it to Olympus, though – they managed to make their 4/3 users hate their m4/3 users more than Canon shooters hate Nikon shooters, and vice versa
I’m still torn between trying to get rid of my 4/3 gear for a quarter of the purchase price (since that’s probably the point someone would buy something 4/3) and using it for a couple more years, at which point it will anyway be unrepairable and unusable from the technical standpoint.
In the meantime, I’m shouting “do not buy anything made by Olympus” on all the local forums, as does pretty much everyone else owning 4/3 equipment.
sneye
11 months ago |“You have to hand it to Olympus, though – they managed to make their 4/3 users hate their m4/3 users more than Canon shooters hate Nikon shooters, and vice versa”
Well, that puts me in an awkward position. Perhaps I should see professional help
tmrgrs
11 months ago |Quote: “In the meantime, I’m shouting “do not buy anything made by Olympus” on all the local forums, as does pretty much everyone else owning 4/3 equipment”
Sigh – - Too bad there’s no ‘ignore’ feature here so we can learn about these new models without having to wade through the agenda driven propaganda from disillusioned malcontents who have no real interest in what’s being discussed here unless it’s anti-Olympus.
Boooo!
11 months ago |And I wish m4/3 would just go away so Olympus continues making REAL cameras with REAL lenses.
tmrgrs
11 months ago |Isn’t there an active Olympus DSLR forum at DPReview? Or do you think you can get more attention here? Have you ever tried communicating directly with Olympus customer support about the m4/3 going away thing? What was their response?
Boooo!
11 months ago |Olympus has people reading both sites, but it’s easier to make a point here, than on the other site with its threads about Sunday cats, flower photos, and Russian trolls who shoot Nikon.
I tried communicating with Olympus and got back a canned vague response that everyone did. It was even featured on 43 Rumors, I think.
My hope is that Olympus finally wakes up after releasing these cameras and those couple of new lenses, stops making such toys for a while and returns to 4/3 before people start making molotov cocktails with their “utterly-useless-on-PEN” 150mm little tunas and throwing them at official Oly buildings. The 90-250 and the 300 would be big enough to fit with rocket engines, too…
Bob B.
11 months ago |You can live in the past…or live in the present. Everything changes. Always.
Sometimes its good..sometimes not…but it is a fact.
Boooo!
11 months ago |Then can I ask Olympus for a refund of all the money I spent on their obsoleted system, with no real way to use my existing lenses on their little m4/3 cameras? Don’t tell me that they work – they don’t, as they are too big for the cameras and focus like a grandma crossing the street.
It is about the MONEY. If money grew on trees, I wouldn’t care. But it doesn’t, and the E-5, for example, equals three average monthly salaries where I live. I was in deep sh*t for half a year after I purchased a used E-3 and a used 50-200. It’s completely different for someone in the western world, who can basically buy a new E-5 every month.
I feel like a complete idiot buying Olympus equipment, and so do incredible amounts of other people right now.
tmrgrs
11 months ago |Some of you disenchanted 4/3 DSLR users remind me of something that a priest once said to me. “The most vociferous enemies of the Catholic church are mostly Catholics”. If I was running Olympus, I’d burn a few of you at the stake so the rest would take notice and give it a rest. /just joking of course/
cbr09
11 months ago |No most 4/3 owners don’t shout this. Many of us have welcomed m4/3 but would like to be able to go on using our 4/3 lenses on the new system, while hoping that the produce a replcement for the Exxx series soon. That is now looking more likely. Given that sales of 4/3 were dwindling noone could expect Oly to continue to sink great resources int that system. Note however that 4/3 and OM adapters were in the first wave of m4/3 products – they do care about their userbase. If you are after resale value an innovative system is probably not right for you. At some point though with technology even all that Canon and Nikon glass is going to get left behind.
EyeAmLagend
11 months ago |@Booo1 > Then can I ask Olympus for a refund of all the money I spent on their obsoleted system, with no real way to use my existing lenses on their little m4/3 cameras?
Umm buddy are you gonna ask a car manufacturer for a refund becuase the new models lug pattern doesn’t match the prvious models?
Hey! Why cant I use hvs tapes from my Panasonic vcr in my dvd player? Mayve I’ll ask for a refund.
What a knob.
Boooo!
11 months ago |You can still buy brand new VHS players, you silly.
ronnbot
11 months ago |What about Nikon’s DX line? The D300 has gone unchanged while Nikon released the D7000/D5100/etc. Canon’s 7D is getting long in the tooth as well as they put its sensor in lower models, add a swivel screen and other new features to T3i/T3.
Top of the line models typically don’t get improved as frequently as lower ones. Even when IQ gets better than the top of the line ones (because of new sensor/engine/etc), the new lower models will not surpass them in other aspects for which the (pro) user bought them: robustness, usability, and responsiveness.
Boooo!
11 months ago |Here are the differences:
1) The D300 has a better sensor than the E-5
2) There will be a D400
Rachnaroch
11 months ago |Maybe they did not fear Panasonic much like they do now. With 4/3 almost dead they must have seen Panasonic’s success in M4/3 like a real treat. If they let Panasonic gain more share Olympus will be left with no market at all. That may be why they are launching ‘PEN 2.0′ with no lees than 3 new cameras (and one replacing a 6 months old model!), new and reworked lenses and a few accessories.
It’s as if 3 or 4 years ago Olympus thought ‘well, let Panny go with that new micro system, who will buy that toys and what do they know, we’ll release a model too, maybe, and with our experience and pedigree there’s nothing they can do… hey, wait, what’s that, they already released 7 models and they are incredible advanced, they have better sensors, better AF, better lenses… OMG! They completely caught us off-guard, we are screwed, what an embarrassment!’
And then they started reworking their strategy and we will see the results in a few days.
lnqo-M
11 months ago |Olympus will start mirrorless in 2002 if the have technology to the,
but the is for early, for the technology in 2002.
The is not only CDAF and EVF, but the large problem is lens by short flang distance, and good quality.
Rachnaroch
11 months ago |I highly doubt it. it seems M4/3 is a Panasonic thing.
Archer Sully
11 months ago |I know that Oly made statements that they have been investigating EVIL technology from the start. I suspect that Panny moved on it first, which forced Olympus to release a immature/unfinished design in the form of the E-P1. I get the impression that the E-P3 and company are what they wanted to release all along, but its taken a while to get there.
sneye
11 months ago |It’s getting better every day…
I wonder if the change in Oly’s attitude has something to do with the new CEO. I know all of this was probably planned for years (well, apart from the AF bit, which seems like a recent achievement), but still.
Breather
11 months ago |If everything was planned for years they wouldn’t need to redesign their products every few months… it costs money as you can imagine.)
Nor wouldn’t their flagship models become obsolete so soon after initial release and yet replace over a 3 year cycle (as boooo! has rightly commented).
I do envy you for your trust and faith in Olympus, even if it comes at a price of some very silly comments. Don’t lose the spirit!
AndyOz
11 months ago |Admin about the flash. You say that there is one coming FL-300R – which sounds like it will be a decent guide number with some nice features like the Sony. However in your previous rumors one of your sources said that there would be a flash bundled with the lower models E-PM1 and E-PL3 that would use the accessory port. I would assume that is a small flash with similar power to pop-up that might use camera battery.
Does that mean there are two flashes? I cant imagine they are going to bundle the FL-300R with the lower bodies.
Archer Sully
11 months ago |I doubt that the GN is 300, or even 30. If its an RC controller, though, then its really useful.
AndyOz
11 months ago |Hi Archer
I dont think it is GN 300!!! My point being even if its GN20 – 30 range I cant see them bundling it for free with the lower E-PM1 and E-PL2 models. That would cost too much. From what the sources were saying I was thinking that there must be a small flash which they are putting with the lower models to offset the fact there is no built-in.
Source 1 the other day said “the other two cameras will have bundled external flash that uses the hotshoe+accessory port”
sneye
11 months ago |Production costs of such a flash would be in the $20-30 range, so why not bundle it in? It will certainly emphasize the superiority of the PEN Mini over such offerings as the GF3. The new PENs must be a make-or-break point for the Olympus camera division, so they might as well give them the best chance they can.
AndyOz
11 months ago |I would like it if they did. If its true that it only costs $20 to make an external flash with a moderate GN (of 20-30) then I feel that we have been ripped off by many camera companies !!! I know there is a pretty big markup for retail but I wouldnt have thought they could afford to do it. Great if they can. Maybe its only guide no 14-20 range. I am looking at an E-P3 – I hope they bundle the same flash with it as well – especially if its a good one.
Looking at Sony
- they have the F20AM which retails for about $150
- then they have the one they bundle with the C3
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sonynexc3/page3.asp
I would have thought that Oly would go for something like the one that comes with the C3 and bundle that with mini and the lite. We will find out soon.
EyeAmLagend
11 months ago |>I do envy you for your trust and faith in Olympus
Well someone people actually use cameras for you know, photography and changes in a system doesn’t bother those people so much.
Archer Sully
11 months ago |I wonder what “built-in EyeFi support” means? I’d love to be able to adhoc one to my iPad (carried in a backpack). Or configure it onto a public network to upload to Facebook from the camera. Come to think of it, built-in 3G and/or LTE support would be even more interesting.
Mr. Reeee
11 months ago |I file the Eye-Fi under “Nice Ideas”. With the size of image files these days…
On my GH2: 6-7MB per JPEG, 20.8MB per RAW file…
Not only will you have dead-slow transfers, but with added feature of killing our already capacity-challenged batteries. Gee, I’ll take 2!
With crappy and inefficient USB transfer speeds directly from camera, I got into the habit of always using card readers, FireWire for CF, USB for SD and microSD Cards.
Years ago when traveling, I carried a MindStor digital wallet (a rechargeable, battery powered 10GB hard drive with a PC Card slot, FireWire and USB ports) so I could dump photos from insanely small-capacity and expensive CompactFlash cards. It was cheaper than buying several CF cards.
I’ve used my iPad a few times, but given it’s paltry amount of memory (32GB), I opted to buy a few 32GB SanDisk Extreme SDHC cards and call it a day. If I want to review images in the field, I just carry my MacBook Pro.
mal
11 months ago |I would like to be able to post a small copy of every photo up to the web to make blogging easier. The images could be anything from 640×480 to 1920×1440 in high compression. would be no bigger than about 1mb in size each. The originals can stay as RAW on my memory card for developing later.
If I am at a party or dinner with friends, I can take pictures and everyone can review them on their phones. Would be good fun.
miniViews
11 months ago |I agree, Eye-Fi should provide an option to transfer a smaller copy of every photo automatically to our phone. I was hoping Eye-Fi would support such feature similar to Olympus’ PenPal. A workaround is to use Eye-Fi Selective Transfer to prevent lost of file space on the phone. Unfortunately, Selective Transfer does not help with upload speeds.
I hope the built in Eye-Fi support is also featured in the mini and lite models.
fta
11 months ago |I bought a Eye-Fi Pro X2 and never use it. Like Mr. Reeee said, slow. And to even get the 6-7MB speeds, you need to be VERY close to your wireless AP or it can be even slower.
And for those of you thinking why did I buy it. I was trying to get a “tethered” setup going like the Canikons can in a studio. I don’t understand why Panasonic doesn’t implement this feature in the GH2. It has a USB port. oh well…
Oh, Archer, 3G would just be a gimmick as well… If you shoot a lot, would you really want to pay for all the bandwidth? That would be expensive.
Archer Sully
11 months ago |I’m just blue-skying. Eventually 3G/LTE bandwidth will be cheap and ubiquitous.
As far as WiFi speed, its hard to tell without trying it, but an EyeFi Pro should be able to get decent speeds on an adhoc network. Emphasis on “should.” iPads, and EyeFi Pros both support adhoc, and both support 802.11n. In THEORY they should be able to use adhoc at 802.11n speeds, which would make the device useful. If its stuck at 11Mbps, well, ugh.
As for memory, i have a 64GB iPad, so I’m not worried
. And in all probability there will soon be 128GB devices at the price of 64GB devices.
TEB
11 months ago |For everyone saying the AF is amazing, compared to other Oly’s? The G3/GH2 already feels faster than a person’s reaction time. You certainly won’t miss a shot now from the camera not getting focused fast enough (caveats being 45 macro in macro not tried and the 20mm is still slower than lenses like the 14-140).
tmrgrs
11 months ago |FT5 posted three days ago: “fastest AF to date for any mirrorless cam (and I have been told that it is considerably faster that the Panasonic GH2!)”
Mr. Reeee
11 months ago |Absolutely.
I was on a sunset New York Harbor cruise this week, walking on deck, passing a friend walking the other way. I tilted my GH2 w/20mm up a bit and shot. I was amazed that not only was it in focus, but another friend standing behind was nicely out of focus.
How much faster does it need to be?
It’s already faster than I could have hoped for.
Thom Hogan
11 months ago |> improve the dynamic range, color fidelity and autofocus speed
I don’t have the original source to look at for that statement, but…those three specific things say to me that this is a sensor redesign, not a from-scratch design. Let’s do it backwards:
* Autofocus speed: highly dependent upon how fast you get data off the sensor. There are two basic ways to do this: up the frame rate and sub-sample the pixels, preferably both. This is work mostly in the add-on circuitry in a CMOS sensor. It doesn’t touch the sensel itself (other than how fast it is taking information from it).
* Color fidelity: highly dependent upon the Bayer filtration. We’ve been all over the map on this one during digital’s history, increasing filtration, decreasing it, flipping it to CYMG instead of RGBG, you name it. It’s an optical issue, and Olympus is an optical company.
* Dynamic range: can be dependent upon a lot of things, including sensel efficiency, read noise, microlenses, and so on. But read this and the previous one together and I get “Olympus changed the layers on the top of the sensor.”
I’m guessing here, but it’s quite possible that Olympus really meant it when they said 12mp is enough (it isn’t, but for different reasons than most people think, and Lytro is a good example of that). With Panasonic showing them sensors with similar traits but more pixels, Olympus might have simply asked to be given access to the original sensor design for improvement. So they put engineers working on the two easiest things to tweak: the photosite support circuitry (goosing the bandwidth) and the filtration layers (Bayer, microlenses). This would also explain why Panasonic is the fab.
I’ll be watching the details in the Japanese press when the release happens. What I’m looking for is evidence that the sensel is changed or different, or that the underlying transistor type is changed. Differences in substrate materials or flipping the sensor (BSI) are also fundamental design changes. Those are all things that would indicate a ground-up sensor design. But based upon what we’re hearing as leaks, I’d bet this is a reconfiguration of an existing sensor.
SteveO
11 months ago |Read my mind, Thom. I’m sure many others had the same reaction to the Admin’s diplomatically worded post: Re-design, not a new sensor, and no discussion of reduced high-ISO noise.
x
11 months ago |Thom,
as soon as there are improvements, I don’t care is the sensor is “all new” or “tweaked”. Sure an “all new” might be much better than previous release, but I’m still happy with “tweaked”, since so far we didn’t even get that (besides in the GH2 and G3).
For the megapixel race, be serious: if you can be happy with your FF D3s at 12MP I would be thrilled to have half of that sensor in a 2x-crop PEN: I won’t mind having “only” 6MP, provided I’d get the DR and the ISO capabilities of that sensor. I’ll bet many people are like me (after they would try, many probably think 6MP are not enough, but haven’t tried printing good 6PM images – or maybe they just display ‘em on screen!)
For lytro, the story is irrelevant to panolympus. I happened to be involved with one of lytro’s competitors in the same business, and the real plus of this technology is not focus: it’s aberration control in software. Right now with have only CA and distortion correction, with this technology we could correct spherical aberration and more! Promising much smaller and cheaper optics! But:
- there still is a *long* way to go,
- if lytro’s succesfull, the whole camera/lens business changes
- having more pixel in panolympus cameras won’t help them against this new crop of technology
so for now 6MP would be more than enough. I think 12MP are too many already and I’m happy Olympus didn’t go to 16 like Panny did.
Thom Hogan
11 months ago |> All new versus tweaked
I believe it makes a difference. The sensel determines the maximum you can get out of a design. Tweaking a sensor is just working towards that maximum. Redesigning means redesigning the sensel, and that’s where we’ve seen the biggest gains and changes, with different transistor technologies, then BSI, and so on.
Put another way, it’s like having a bucket that can hold 40,000 units and tweaking it as close as you can to 40,000, versus a bucket that can hold 60,000 and is still 10% inefficient. I’d still rather have the latter than the former.
Parci
11 months ago |Suppose you are correct. There is still the possibility of using the GH1′s sensor (without the multi-aspect feature), which was a pretty decent one, save for the banding issues at higher sensitivities. Well, we can at least hope anyway…
fta
11 months ago |I’m going to throw up the next time someone mentions Lytro again… In a way I’m hoping they release something very soon, so that we can get over this gimmick. We got pixel peepers right now that are not even happy with FF, they are going to have a heart attack when they see Lytro.
Thom Hogan
11 months ago |It’s not a gimmick, though their eventual camera may be. There are several potentially highly disruptive technologies lingering just beyond current reach. Only two of them are currently being explored by the camera companies in any visible way.
As I wrote on my site, I think Lytro erred in using an Early Hype Launch strategy. They’re going to get hurt by that when what’s delivered isn’t up to what was expected. As @x wrote, Light Field has the potential to unlock tremendous gains in computational correction that would threaten traditional 2D sensors.
Archer Sully
11 months ago |Hi Thom,
I have some ideas about what could be done with ridiculously high pixel densities, but they are mostly speculations from ignorance. Could you talk a bit more about the possibilities?
fta
11 months ago |Thom, that’s why I specifically mentioned “Lytro” and not Light Field / Plenoptic technologies. I think we are still years away for sensors to be dense, or “good enough” for light field technology to be more than a gimmick. Will this technology be useful and useable in the future? Sure, I don’t see why not. But the first gen from Lytro or any other manufacturer within the next 5 to 10 years, it will be nothing more than a gimmick. Thom, you know exactly what I’m talking about. Will you use a Lytro camera for your professional photography? I bet you that you won’t. Not for sometime to come. I think this might actually catch on first in cell-phone cameras first, before it is useable, or worthy of putting it in DSLRs.
SteveO
11 months ago |Admin, clarification needed:
“Sources are now certain the sensor is designed by Olympus (and produced by Panasonic). Olympus goal was to improve the dynamic range, color fidelity and autofocus speed.”
Help us read between the lines: are you talking about a new from the ground-up sensor or a re-design of the 4 year old Panny sensor best known for its noise issues? I’m hoping my concern is misplaced, but not seeing any mention of “lower noise” as one of their primary goals raises my antennae.
admin
11 months ago |I have been told the sensor has a NEW design!!!
SteveO
11 months ago |I’ll go with it. I’m liking many of the features they have built-into the new line (faster AF, AF assist lamp, body size reduction and flip-LCD on E-PL3), so hopefully they’ve found a way to truly improve the sensor on the noise front as well.
Raist3d
11 months ago |Just make sure you (and others) understand new design does not necessarily mean “we moved the ISO/DR bar to be competitive enough.” Any improvement is certainly welcome. Things have to come out to be verified.
Miroslav
11 months ago |“Olympus FL-300R works like the Sony’s F20AM – you fold down to turn off.”
Folding it down when not needed is nice, but I hope it can bounce like F20AM as well.
RickeyG
11 months ago |I have the E3, E30, E620, E5, and EPL1. Everytime I go out the door I reach for the E5. It just happens, I don’t even have to think abut it. Its MUCH better that the E3 and worth the upgrade. Those that say otherwise, don’t shoot much in varying conditions or expected miracles….. Its the BEST Oly has ever produced. I get goosebumps looking at the photos I take…. I Love it….looking forward to the new Oly gear..
Per
11 months ago |I do not think it is a NEW sensor. That would mean everything is new and that would be unlogical. Most new developemnt builds on something existing that is improved in different ways. Also reminding that the “leaks” most probably are orchestrated from Olympus marketing dept.. Not all cameras lives up to the hype created on the internet surrounding the launch.
In Sweden we have a car company: SAAB. Many enthusiasts are very enthusiastic about SAAB – but unfortunately very few buy it. Olympus similarily obviously havs many devoted followers. Sales though are not very high. Hopefully Olympus will do better than SAAB that currently have the vultures (Dutch, Russian, Chineese etc) circling over the factory.
Anonymous
11 months ago |http://photorumors.com/2011/06/26/this-is-the-olympus-ep-3-pictures/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PhotoRumors+%28PhotoRumors.com%29&utm_content=FaceBook
this is it.
The E-P3
the grips looking pretty odd…
SLOtographer
11 months ago |New flash – thumbs up!
eyefi – thumbs up!
Significantly better performance from sensor (and not just a minor tweak) – hoping for the best.
Thomas Schindler
11 months ago |http://photorumors.com/2011/06/26/this-is-the-olympus-ep-3-pictures/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PhotoRumors+%28PhotoRumors.com%29&utm_content=FaceBook
well
this is it! The E-P3.
The new grip’s looking pretty odd…
AndyOz
11 months ago |Thomas
Good find. Yes it looks interesting. I quite like the look of it – although its pretty similar to a combination of the E-P2 and E-PL2.
That grip must be the “base” or smaller grip and there must be a larger one for use with bigger lenses. Its hard to tell how well it sits from the photo but it does look slightly odd.
I take it that is the new 12mm f2 lens or possibly the 45mm?
Thomas Schindler
11 months ago |Yes, this must be the base grip. I dont like this design though…
The grips looking “out of the body”, its not this clean design like the E-P1/2 had. Its looking, messed up, IMO.
regarding this lens:
Yea, i was also wondering what lens that could be.
But: It looks like there is an adapter behind the lens and we can def. see an aperture ring. So maybe its just a old legacy lens, maybe one made by zeiss?
AndyOz
11 months ago |Maybe you are right about this being an old legacy lens.
I can definetely see an aperature ring toward the front. I hope its a new Olympus lens with an aperature ring!!!
When I first heard that there were changeable grips I was concerned it might look odd – as you say it does sit out from the body a bit. But i will reserve my judgement when I see clearer pics. This might be case of where the looks of a camera have to be compromised a little in order to offer the option of a replaceable bigger grip which would be welcomed by alot of users of bigger lenses. I dont mind that.
MJr
11 months ago |The shape is Exactly like the concept lens. Must be it …
Also it looks more like a aperture Scale on the front as i detect:
22 11 5.6 | 5.6 11 22
and not 2 2.8 4 5.6 8 11 16 22 or so.
But there seem to be more numbers going on at the base also …
AndyOz
11 months ago |E-P3 pictures !!!!! Thanks to Thomas’ link
fta
11 months ago |Nice find Thomas!! Yeah, looks like the 12mm lens on it. That would make a nice kit.
MJr
11 months ago |Woah, exactly as predicted.
And the new 12/2 ?? Looks like it.
MJr
11 months ago |Forget the E-P3, that lens looks awesome. (great new PASM dial tho)
ps. lol the site is having hiccups already =P
SteveO
11 months ago |I don’t know about others, but I’m hoping both Olympus and Panasonic invest in some creative TV ad campaigns for their new line-ups.
For Olympus this is absolutely essential, they’re simply invisible in the American market in particular. I could see a campaign modeled on Apple’s emphasizing their unique qualities and ease of use as compared to “huge” DSLR’s, with a strong emphasis on the younger market of both genders.
Hate to see this exciting new line-up founder over lack of visibility; hopefully their new western president gets this.
Daniel
11 months ago |I’m glad Olympus is sticking with the 12m sensor and improving upon it. I really wish Nikon would have done the same thing as regardless of what the reviews state the Sony 16 mp sensor is a real dissapointment: I sold my D7000 as I actually prefer the detail, color and nr of the Olympus sensor and of course Olympus JPEGs are impossible to beat. I have owned Nikon DSLRs since the D1 and to me the IQ has gone down hill since the D300. Who would have thought the EPL1 + 20 1.7 would have won me over Nikon after so many years of loyal ownership and I am not alone in this regard.
Bob B.
11 months ago |Do we know if the 40-150II R going to be a high-quality fast focusing lens?????
jimmython
11 months ago |what does that mean – “built in support for eye-fi cards”? what kind of ‘support’ do you need – don’t these cards work in all SD-card cameras?
julien
11 months ago |I do not know is this kind of memory card is designed to allow RAW transfert…