(FT2) Olympus future modular camera with tilt-shift option?

The following rumor has been sent by a new source. I post it because I was not able to get confirmation from other sources. Maybe some of you can tell me more about it
According to the new source “One module will use the space that is taken up normally with the mirror to perform tilt&shift functions with the sensor…..so in other words if you think about how tilt and shift was done with the old $loc = $_SESSION['geoip'];
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Radis.rut
2 years ago |OMG !! That’s one heck of a concept !!!
don
2 years ago |Not sure what the tilt and shift is all about but wouldn’t it be a good idea if say rather than interchangeable modules for various sensors or lenses you simply had one large FF sensor and then by moving the distance from lens flange to sensor by moving the sensor you could obtain any degree of magnification you wanted from FF to APS-C to m4/3rds? Now that would be something very attractive best suited to compact FF lens line but useable for use with any lens with very small thin inexpensive adapter?
Nathan
2 years ago |The Four Thirds image circle is not very big. I wonder how much shift is actually usable before you start to get vignetting? I can see using an OM lens for shift, but 4/3? Don’t tilt/shift lenses usually have a larger image circle than standard lenses?
CR102
2 years ago |Sounds fantastic, but I don’t believe a word of this. The implemetation would be rather complex because of the requirement of manual control over sensor positioning and 99% of DSLR users wouldn’t know what to do with this feature anyway.
misu
2 years ago |considering how important the lens alignment is for digital camera I’d say (FT0).
rufusrm44
2 years ago |The tilt/shift functions in lenses for dslrs change the focus plane, but this rumor is about changing the perspective only as the “film” plane is changing. This is entirely different than what has been available before. Also, the cameras are called 4×5 not 5×4, but who’s really counting?
Even in medium format (like the fuji GX680III) and 4×5 field cameras, changes were made with the focus plane, what was commonly called the front standard. 4×5 field cameras are comparable to the old speed graphics and crown graphics used for news back in the day, again the rear standard or film plane is fixed so only front standard movements are allowed.
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Brandon
2 years ago |I doubt they’ve overcome the engineering obstacles to do this… However:
Since the T/S motions are rearward, the lens image-circle would remain the same. What would increase in size (to allow the shift from center) would be the sensor. So imagine an E5 with an FF sensor, operating on only 4/3-sized sections of the sensor at a time. I do think this would require a lens inside the camera to communicate these rays to the sensor.
I don’t think the biggest engineering issue would be rotating the sensor so much as creating a sensor that can respond to non-perpendicular rays with aplomb.
Then again, I’ve never really understood T/S lenses with detail, much less to the point of engineering one.
BTW this FF would allow all manner of crop size and shape for non-T/S photos–to the lens it basically appears as a round-sensor–extending in every direction beyond its edge.
omolympus
2 years ago |Interesting concept – as most of the 4/3 lenses have quite a bit of latitude in image circle that would allow for this. I do some architectural work and the thought of being able to shift, or tilt with a lens like the 7-14 could provide quite an advantage to the photographer.
In addition when doing macro work it would allow for interesting depth of field effects across the image plane as when using a 5×4…..I trained on one of those cameras and being able to do some shift/tilt in a comparatively compact package would be appealing.
The thing is that the concept is acheieveable without a modular situation. Simply a 4/3 camera and mount with the same registration distance without mirror. Think E620 with EVF and minus mirror. I have heard similar rumblings from some sources on this…..we’ll see.
OM
Monty Lemán
2 years ago |Sounds unlikely to me. It would be cool to have a “tilt/shift back” that could make any lens into a tilt/shift lens, but I have my doubts about how well that could work in practice…for one thing, doing away with the mirror might give you the room to do tilts, but shifts? Where do you have the room to shift the sensor to? It would be very cool if it’s real, but I’m not exactly holding my breath waiting for it.
Chris
2 years ago |You know, it could be accomplished by using bellows. Not everything has to be done with electronics.
Jonas
2 years ago |you can already get tilt with zoom lenses (or other lenses) on micro4/3 with a NikonF (or other mount) to micro4/3 tilt adapter. I use a Nikkor 45P on my tilt adapter… very compact.
Ffrima
2 years ago |you can also buy 4/3 tilt shift lenses en ebay
JNMPhoto
2 years ago |@rufusrm44
the cameras are called 4×5 not 5×4….it is 5 x4 in UK & Europe and 4 x 5 in the US, and possibly other places. Just like timber, in the US it is 2 x 4 and in the UK it 4 x 2 (except we should call it 100 x 50 mm but no body does).
J
Torstein
2 years ago |I hope this rumor will materialise into a nice Tilt and Shift option for the Olympus 4/3 system! If something like a 12mm Tilt and Shift lens existed for the 4/3 system I would run to the shop! If it even comes with “a camera included” I’m waiting in line!
David J. Heinrich
2 years ago |The tilt-shift lenses for Olympus that you can buy on eBay are awful. Arsat or some Russian-made brand like that, 35mm (not a very useful focal length on 4/3rds), and just aren’t that sharp from what I’ve read.
I use a 4×5 and an Olympus E3. The benefits of tilts and swings can be substantial depending on the subject (i.e., if your foreground is relatively planar). When the foreground is very three-dimensional, like a tree or a bush, tilts and swings will not help you if you want to get them in focus and the background; you’ll just need to stop down. Tilts and swings actually decrease angular depth of field close to the camera (look up the Scheimpflug principle), so you need to make sure you only use them when there isn’t something in the foreground that will be thrown out of focus in a weird way by that.
Of course, there are many situations where tilts and swings are beneficial (I myself rarely use shift). These movements can also be used to throw things out of focus, except for a small area you want in focus, as well.
I think that Olympus could benefit greatly from these kinds of things, but it could also benefit from some longer telephoto prime lenses. The 50-500 Sigma isn’t designed for Olympus, and produces good but not excellent sharpness at 500mm on the 4/3rds sensor. It would be nice to have a prime 500mm f/5.6 or f/6.5 lens. I have a 70-300, and Olympus really shines for on-the-go nature photography (the 70-300mm lens really isn’t designed for 4/3rds either, but is the same design as a Sigma lens that is also on APS-C sensors). However, oftentimes, even 300mm isn’t long enough to get what you want in focus.
And the 300mm f/2.8 really doesn’t help you get any closer, although you can pair it with an EC-20. Not to mention, the 300mm f/2.8 is enormous in both weight and price. (although you can rent, and for me, for the frequency of my use of nature photography where I’d need a lens that long, renting would be the best option). (and even to rent it for 4 days, insured, costs $320!).
david deGomez
2 years ago |Shift lenses on digital? Haven’t any of you heard of perspective control in photoshop? Yes, I’m sure when you start skewing/distorting images in PS you start losing quality but if your shift lens is crap to start with (see earlier posts on existing lenses) the trade off may be the same. As for tilting the lens for greater depth of field, there’s this new post processing technique called stacked focus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focus_stack). Simply amazing, but your subject has to be still and the camera on a solid tripod.