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Olympus France about the new High End camera: “will have the most advanced digital technology on the market.”


OpenPN got in touch with Olympus France and they confirmed that:
–           By end of 2013, Olympus will unveil a new camera that will fully exploit the exceptional performance of optical 4/3.
–           This new camera will have the most advanced digital technology on the market.
–           Olympus will continue to expand its range optical mount Micro 4/3.

When Olympus says “most advanced technology” than this is what I hope they are talking about:
– Use of a new 3 layer sensor like (and better) the Sigma Foveon (The new DP series is amazing at Low ISO). And Sony patented many sensors with similar tech.
– hybrid Optical and electronic viewfinder tech.
– Full electronic shutter (no shutter delay, no noise).

Ok, that’s just my personal wishlist and I guess I am asking too much :)

Reminder: The upcoming CES announcements will not bring us any new MFT camera, just a bunch of new compact cameras. I expect new MFT camera and lenses to be annoucned by end of January!

  • “Peut-être, peut-être pas.”

  • I just read the article in French, and it’s only a rehash of past information, mostly Spanish – a rumour about a rumour.

    They do a lot of deductions and projections, but some are highly doubtful, i.e. they posit there will be no new adapter and that the adptation will be in-camera.

    The guesses are highly educated, however there is no trace of a leak at all.

    • admin

      They got in touch with Mr. Arnaud Gaucher form Olympsu France that confirmed the three points I listed in the post. I dindn’t post anything about their guesses because that part is just…guess :)

      • @admin
        Any word on new forthcoming flash technology from Olympus (line of sight no longer needed)?

        Happy New Year, belated! *embarrassed*

      • Yes, but those 3 points say v. little.

        Use of the foveon instead is entirely of your own making :)

        Perhaps you’d do better to explain to the unwashed here, why fast use of 4/3 lenses is so important for mirrorless.

        I tried but I think I failed :)

        • Elf

          With all due respect Am.They weren’t listening and lack a frame of reference to process the information. They just don’t understand that Oly really is stuck between a rock and a hard place. They could very well create faster and smaller zooms……. however whatever the compromises they would make the IQ would suffer and they would be found lacking in relation to 4/3 HG/SHg by every reviewer,and deemed unworthy of the Zuiko name. Panny has no such heritage and can therefore move ahead with those types of lenses. Panny has made some very good lenses mind.

          • v. concise explanation, thank you.

            I also mentioned another factor. With the price of sensors falling they might be considering also a larger format, or a multi-format.

            They might also consider to provide lenses to Sony in a barter agreement lenses against sensors.

            4/3 lenses are rated 20 Mpx compatible if I remember well, and that’s possibly all a 4/3 sensor might give, bar quantum devices :)

            Since we know that they have limited resources, that they must hit profit targets, and they are still in the red, their reasoning might be very different from ours.

            Exploiting the 4/3 lenses’ potential is a zero cost initiative and it was long due. Mind you nobody will coerce you in using heavy zooms. I will use mostly primes except at the extremes of the range.

            The system is scalable. One can also use an E-PMx with a pancake. That’s the great advantage compared to other ILS systems.

            • Timccr

              I am intrigued that 43 lenses are 20Mp compatable. Is there somewhere that would tell me how many Mp compatable the various m43 lenses are? A sealed 20Mp PEN with fast primes to match could be very cool and on the basis that one day there will be one it would seem sensible to make sure that any glass bought now would be suitable.

              • Well that was the consensus in the old DPR’s 4/3 forum. I never found a source though. I wonder if the lack of AA filter makes additional demands on the lenses.

                Possibly a more objective test would be LPMM, unfortunately most sites tested 4/3 lenses on old 4/3 sensors, so you can’t tell if they increase resolution with Mpx count.

                I would be very grateful if someone could provide an updated information.

                • I have to admit that I don’t know anything about how to find out what amount of MPx a lens can cope with. bjt there is an optical engineer in Germany who claims that the HG and SHG lenses will be able to deal with 46 MPx.

          • Riley

            Panasonic already faced that issue with licensing the Leica brand on some of their lens products. Leica simply refused in some cases but that doesnt appear to reflect a permanent relationship

        • H

          HI Amalric! It is not as important for new users as it is for those that have “regular” 4/3rd lenses. Olympus is in need of “doing the right thing” for old customers that would otherwise feel abandoned. This “bridge body” allows them to fill in the gap until they can produce HG-like zoom lenses for m4/3. Panasonic is already there so Olympus is pretty late for the show.
          I had 3 SHG lenses and 3 HG lenses that all have been sold since I got an EM-5, Panasonic 2.8 zooms and 25 1.4. It is for sure that Panasonic zooms are not in the same league as SHG zooms but they certainly are up to HG standards. What I for sure have lost when it comes to lenses, I got back even more when it comes to sensor, video quality and portability.
          I believe and hope that this new body will be kind of Olympus version of GH-3 with better ergonomics and pro-video functions with much better codec and dedicated versions for PAL and NTSC markets (with the proper fps). I personally can’t see myself using 35-100 (too large) or 12-35 f2 (lousy AF) again since I can get pretty similar IQ in m4/3 primes and zooms combined.

          • Esa Tuunanen

            > It is for sure that Panasonic zooms are not in the same league as SHG zooms but they certainly are up to HG standards.
            Nope, Lumix G 12-35 isn’t even up to “just” HQ level 12-60mm’s corner to corner sharpness with Panasonic’s outside center drop in sharpness at wide end.

            > I got back even more when it comes to sensor, video quality and portability.
            Of which only last one is attribute of software corrected lenses.

            • H

              So you have Panasonic lenses and have used those for “real” job instead of looking at graphs and reading reviews?
              Corner sharpness is not important for all uses. Same goes for extreme DOF controll that some FF users praise.
              No telecentricity means no corner sharpness. Olympus is using software to correct it. People who use photo equipment as tools don’t care about how results a achieved, only if they are good enough. I don’t care if lens is software-corrected as long as it gives good results.

    • I cannot but repeat what Elf said so aptly:

      “however whatever the compromises they would make the IQ would suffer and they would be found lacking in relation to 4/3 HG/SHg by every reviewer,and deemed unworthy of the Zuiko name.”

      It is because the distance to flange in m4/3 is so short, that it is difficult to have sharpness at the edges, especially for wides – compared to 4/3 lenses.

      If you shoot People it’s not so important, but it becomes paramount if you shoot Landscape.

      • Luda

        I know what he said but some if is is just pure guessing. Nobody believed that 45 1.8 was possible and there it is, small light and with great IQ.
        Yes there are some limitations but the question is how big impact those would have on final result.
        You are talking about lenses for landscape photographers. What lenses do you have in mind?
        Is 12 mm so bad stopped down to say 5.6? What 4/3 lenses are so extremely much better at 12 mm apart from 7-14 which m4/3 “cousin” is very good. Have you used any of the Panasonic lenses?
        I believe that Olympus will have to offer some good zooms for m4/3 since they are loosing too much money for not having proper zoom alternatives for such a nice body as EM-5 is.

        • Elf

          All I hear you saying is….. I want what I want cause I want it. Making a good single focal length prime is worlds apart from a HG zoom, with it’s complex lens groups etc. I get the feeling that so many here just haven’t ever owned the 12_60 that they are all yelling so loudly for. It is not a fixed f2.8 apeture it is a f2.8-4 with a 72mm filter size the exact same size and dimensions as my Pan Leica 14-150 It has its reputation from being optically correct. To make it significantly smaller is to enter the realm of software correction. And Oly has resisted this compromise to date. They would it seems rather offer a camera capable of handling what are already optically correct lenses. There aren’t any short cuts … free lunch. Olympus has their reputation as a lens maker on the line. They aren’t going to throw it all away for consumer convenience. Yes they could do it…..I’m pretty sure they won’t.

          • Le frog

            I am not an engineer and I might be talking nonsense, but I have seen a picture of a section design of the 12-60. There seems to be enough space between groups to allow Oly to build a collapsible version of it, something like 40-50 mm long, maximum. Use of micro-motors might also help to reduce size and weight, a bit. On the other hand the main obstacle to building an m4/3 version of the lens might be the change in the flange distance.

            The bottom line though is that none of us is an engineer. If any one of us actually had a clue how to design such a zoom and whether it is technically feasible, we would not be here, talking nonsense, we would be heading Oly’s R&D department.

            On the other hand, since we are clueless, we are allowed at least to enjoy the privilege of talking nonsense, dreaming, and drooling…

            • Riley

              the main issue IMO is the geared focusing drive motors vs the speed of mFT linear drives

            • the important difference is the gear drive focus mechanism of the 43rds lens vs linear drives of mFT

          • T-L

            Öly resisted the use of software corrections?

            Not at all, they are all into it since the beginning of m4/3. Most of wide-angle lenses, if not all of them, are software corrected. :P

          • Luda

            Try with something else. You are not only person with insights about complexity of lens design.
            Stop claiming that OLympus would never make compromises and how they never will “put a shame” on Zuiko name.
            Have you ever used ZD 18-180? Is that up to “your” Zuiko-standards?! I was never “crying” for 12-60. I sold mine few weeks ago.
            We probably will never see it completely replicated in m4/3 format but it all depends what Olympus believes people will find “good enough”.
            That will decide on how large, complex and expensive it will be. I guess corner sharpness will have to go since the telecentricity is not strictly followed by Olympus as for regular 4/3 lenses.

        • Esa Tuunanen

          > Is 12 mm so bad stopped down to say 5.6?
          Stopping down has zero effect to 12mm m.Zuiko’s biggest flaw: Uncorrected semi-fisheye geometric distortion being covered up in software by mutilating and stretching pixels.

    • Humpty Bogart

      So, you read French huh. You don’t say.

  • we’ll have to let our imagination run wild as to what these new technologies could be :-]

  • Oly’s whispers about this camera bring to mind one thing: it will be awfully expensive. Actually, it smells like another venture into the “professional” domain. Olympus should know better by now.

    • If its very expensive, then i am sure its worth the money. There is nothing wrong with such serious pro-grade class body attempt.

      • Yes there is. Unrealistic aspirations have brought Olympus nothing but trouble. The “pro” segment has been dominated by Canon and Nikon for decades and professionals are unlikely to accept anything else except for smaller, complementary systems (such as OM-D).

        • its not unrealistic to start a professional series, even when the chance is very small. There is still something like doing things against all odds, thats why i respect a company like olympus.

          • and do you really think a pro MFT Olympus would be that bigger???come on.

          • Petrad


            It was the idiotic idea to try and market FT at pros thus competing with Canon and Nikon in a market they truly dominated that helped destroy FT . This resulted in {while excellent} a range of SHG lenses that were gigantic in relation to the sensor size, and as heavy and large as FF alternative.Along with being just as expensive , leading to the rather obvious question, if I am prepared to carry gear that is as heavy and expensive as FF gear why would I possibly use a sensor a quarter the size.

            • Anonymous

              We now exist in a totally different market. Many ‘pro’ camera’s have come down in price so far as to be in direct competition with Olympus. Yet Olympus still managed to pull off the OM-D, with tremendous sales and great reviews. Who would have thought a few years back that readers at DPReview would rate an Olympus MFT camera “Camera of the Year”?

              Ulli is right, Olympus should aim higher, Canon and Nikon are coming into their space right now and Olympus can leverage the improved brand recognition that the OM-D has got them to move up the market. They have the technology now they have a tight relationship with Sony. Potentially Sony and Olympus can work together to build out a pro-level support network that can compete with the likes of Nikon and Canon.

              Personally I already have an OM-D so probably won’t be in the market for a new body any time soon. I am willing to fork out the $’s for a pro-level body when it comes time to get a second body or replace my OM-D.

            • Realy Proff use camera so have double sensor size of FF. :-P

            • yes FT lenses were big in relation to sensor size with a good reason.But you exaggerate with saying they have same weight/dimensions as 24×36 lenses. This only applies to the 14-35 and 35-100, but with good reason again, they are a full stop faster then equivalents. Anyway, the reason why FT failed in getting enough users can’t be transferred automaticaly to the MFT line. I believe the potential to get success with a prograde mirrorless is here, either by putting a Nikon or Canon label on it, or just coming with real solutions, something I believe Olympus is perfectly capable of.

              • i forget ofcourse the 300mm and 90-250mm

          • Anonymous

            I don’t know how anyone can respect a company like Olympus these days. Back in the seventies and eighties yes, but now, a big fat NO! Probably more than eighty percent of their customer base would like black lenses with hoods included and yet they act like they don’t hear the complaints. Hell, they can’t even put the strap lug in the right place. What is there to respect about Olympus? That they got a Sony sensor?

      • Anonymous

        Like, there’s nothing wrong with charging a Premium for a Black version of a lens?

        • mike

          get over it already. a lot of companies produce special edition merchandise at higher prices. no one is forced to pay the black tax. i’m so tired of this and silver lens whine over and over.

          • Anonymous

            Well here it is again for you!

            I bought a black camera body, therefore, I would like black lenses…

            It’s camera racism!


            • I wonder if there are as many cry babies over in the Canon forums complaining that their high grade lenses are white.
              This is one of the main problems with m43; its consumer base is filled with whiners.

              • Anonymous

                Most people that shoot at night do nto want bright silver lenses. I have a black body which is the most sold EM-5 by a large margin however if I want a black lens I am forced to pay $300 more, that is simply stupid. We are not talking about esoteric lenses, standard lenses. Why not make silver the special edition since there are fewer bodies? Because Olympus realized they can rip people off as they know most people with a black body want a black lens. Sorry, it’s a practical and functional decision. There are no special features in the special edition lenses so sell the special edition in both colors and see how many are actually sold, likely few if any. It’s price gouging, nothing more and it’s why I won’t buy another Olympus lens. I simply don’t need a $300 lens hood.

                • ibluetooth


                  You’re right! Olympus but the extra charge on the black lens just to rip you off! Good grief…really? If it bothers you that much, could you not just get some 3M cover skins in black and wrap it around your silver lens? Let’s compare Oly lenses vs say Canon, or Nikon or any other manufacturer – Are the Oly’s just as good or better optically? I think most people would say yes (in the same price range) Are there serious back focus / front focus issues or general all around issues with the Oly lenses as compared to others? Most people would say no. So let’s recap here – you have a lens that is as good or better than the competition in terms of optical performance (no charts please – only real world shooting applies) and it’s probably a little more reliable than lenses from other companies. With that being said, you’re complaining about the color of the lens?

                  I’d personally not care about the color of the lens and enjoy the photos being generated from it.

    • Dave Lively

      I doubt pros will be giving up their FF SLRs for whatever this turns out to be. But one of m43’s strong points is that it is a full system. Adding a body like this will allow current m43 users that develop the need for a larger body and faster lenses in some circumstances to stay with m43 instead of switching to a FF SLR.

      It could also be useful for birders and other wildlife photographers. The old SHG lenses are sharp enough to be cropped and still give good detail. A pro body with a high MP sensor could give a lot of reach in a small package. It seems like Canon and Nikon are starting to drop high end cameras that are not FF.

  • homer

    theres no way theyll retire the current 1mp sensor so early

  • still laughing

    This kind of post just gets the Canon and Nikon people to grab their bats and go bashing again .

  • Farrukh

    Let’s hope they do not mean that the most advanced digital technology on the market means that it will come in black, silver and white ;)

    • Bob B.

      …but I like white……

    • T-L

      But it will be “Limited black” and 48th shade of silver amongst m4/3 products! ;)

      • Bob B.

        Don’t for get the extra fee!

  • Renze

    Any technical advancement is welcome! In a few years time cheapers models will evolve from that. Can’t wait for the results for the PEN-line up in 2016.

  • KI

    full 4/3 compatibility ….. Omnomnomnomnomnomnom.

  • David Morison

    One of the things I most dislike about the E-M5 is the lack of on-board flash and having to fiddle with that pathetic flimsy little attachable thing with it’s very losable plastic bits. By the look of the frame displayed in this post the new one might not have a built in flash either – nuts!!


    • Ross

      @David Morison
      “One of the things I most dislike about the E-M5 is the lack of on-board flash and having to fiddle with that pathetic flimsy little attachable thing with it’s very losable plastic bits. By the look of the frame displayed in this post the new one might not have a built in flash either – nuts!!”

      That’s probably because it’s a photo of an E-1

  • W. C.

    Olympus makes the best cameras and lenses in the world. This camera will prove it once and for all. We will win the fight. OM-D E-M5 was just a test run. Full 4/3 compatibility is the real deal. This will destroy everything below MF.

  • No more of my money is going to Oly until they put out a fast 25mm!

    Until then I’m buying as much Fuji Astia, Kodak E100G and Agfa Ultra as I can :)

    • Having said that, Oly has been getting a lot of my money the last couple of years!

      • yuii

        “Having said that, Oly has been getting a lot of my money the last couple of years!”

        The truth is that Olympus imaging has been losing money for many years and sadly mFT has done nothing to change this .Many mFT users assume that the E-M5 has sold in the millions whereas the reality of the sales charts be it BCN in Japan or Amazon in the US or UK.The E-M5 barely makes a dent in the top 50 selling cameras {Japan} or even the top 100 { everywhere else}

        Olympus E-M5 not in the top 60 selling cameras way behind most DSLR models including pricey options like the D800

        Amazon USA!493964%2Cn%3A502394%2Cn%3A281052&ie=UTF8&qid=1357214927
        the E-M5 doesn’t make it into the top 170 cameras

        • Randolph and Mortimer


          Your linked reports do not say what you say they say. The E-M5 is 62nd on that list, but that does not make it the 62nd best selling ILC in Japan. It is actually around the 25th best selling because so many cameras are repeated higher on the list. For instance, the E-PL3 is on the list 6 separate times ahead of the E-M5, so that moves the E-M5 up to the 57th spot. The Pentax Q is listed 7 times before the E-M5, moving the E-M5 up to the 51st spot… And this goes on and on with all the cameras, which are on the list 2-8 times each. Besides, nobody said E-M5 only, and the E-PL3 and E-PL5 both seem to be selling fairly well there.

          As to the Amazon list. That one has the same repeating camera issue, but in addition it includes Fixed Lens cameras as well (compacts), which is a little unfair. Besides, when looking at sales most people separate cameras by intended market, and the E-M5 falls into the Pro-sumer category, which basically is ILC’s that retail for ~$800 to ~$2500.

          Also, lens sales are, quite frankly, more important than ILC camera sales, as camera sales are kind of a loss leader. You sell them at a very small profit to get them in peoples hands so that you can sell lenses for a good profit.

          I get your point though, the E-M5 is not exactly the best selling camera in the world. This is true, but you are being disingenuous in how you present your “evidence”, which makes people not want to listen to you.

          • Le frog

            I think sales numbers are somewhat misleading for a different and, to my mind, far more important reason: When you choose an interchangeable lens camera, unless you buy an entry level dslr + kit zoom, that you plan to use as a glorified point-and-shoot, you don’t just buy a body, you buy into a system; that’s a long term investment (in lenses) and a long term commitment, so you don’t change systems, just because a different company has produced a nice new camera and has already or is in the course of building a nice system. I am pretty sure, for example, that precious few Canon users are going to switch to Nikon just because of the D800. So, the crucial question, for me is: how many of those starting to build a system from scratch choose an m4/3 ILS, how many of those switching systems or starting to build a second system invest into an m4/3, how many of them made the switch because of the OM-5, and how many m4/3 users switched from Panny to Oly or upgraded sooner that they planned for the same reason.

            Finally, a general point: M4/3 – mirrorless ILCs in general – are building a customer base and creating a new market just now. The crucial parameter is the rate of growth and its qualitative characteristics, not the overall market share.

    • Anonymous

      Why not just buy the Panny 25mm? Its excellent, and its unlikely Olympus will produce a direct competitor just beacuse.

      • he prob needs a 25mm faster then 1.4 lol

      • Got it in one!

        I would prefer f/1.2 AF. I don’t see enough difference between f/1.7 and f/1.4 to justify getting the PL25mm since I already have the 20mm. And if it is going to have a Leica badge, it’d be nice if it felt a bit like a Leica. I think with a fast aperture, you need to be able to manually focus using a nice, tactile focus ring. That’s were Zuiko comes in…

        • Boooo!

          Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought all Zuiko m4/3 lenses are focus-by-wire, including the 12mm and the 17mm…?

      • Anonymous

        AND, it comes in -Wait for it…. BLACK!!! BLACK BLACK BLACK!!!!

    • corkcampbell

      Agfa Ultra…WOW!…I almost forgot about it; just loved that film. Used to buy it by the box. Same with Agfa Portrait, and a couple of their B&W…

      • If you love Agfa films, now is the time to snap up what’s left! Look for the diamond Agfa logo rather than the AgfaPhoto circular logo.

        Admin: We all know how much you love your Mamiya 7, which film do you use?

        The good thing about medium format is that there are less people using up all the old film stocks! So plenty of Agfa APX 25, Fuji Astia etc YUM!

    • Anonymous

      Why not just go for the perfectly fine Panasonic/Leica 25 prime?

      For Olympus to duplicate that prime would be totally pointless.

  • JF

    “will have the most advanced digital technology on the market.”
    Ouch !! That’s a big marketing sentence !! In France we say: to wash more white than white…

  • Yun

    Advance Technology in market .
    I like this words , hopefully it mean the sensor .
    Please don’t make it too big , retain smaller size than everyone will get excited .
    I suspect Pana will not be left so far from this , sure Pana will come out new series .

  • Olympus France also said that the AA-Filter in the E-PL5 (iirc, could be the wrong model) was different to the one of the OM-D E-M5. ;-)

  • rews

    Micro43 advantage is small size. Old 4/3 lenses are too big, near the same size as lenses for FF. There is no sense to connect big 4/3 with small micro43.

    EVF improvement, or new better sensor – very good.
    But with small size of body and lenses.

    The best idea is to make new small 14-54 f/3.5-5.6 and new small 50-200 f/3.5-5.6 for micro43. Maybe something like 14-42 with smaller size for transport.

    • MFT connection with FT lenses = more flexibility in use

    • OllieS

      Disagree, people are clamouring for fast zooms, you cant make them much smaller than what already exists for 43. Make the systems compatible and you more than double the lens line up, its a no brainer.

    • Anonymous

      Yes it is great when attached to a small pancake or compact zoom. But the whole point of interchangeable lenses is that if I have the need for a SHG zoom at some stage, I can attach it to the camera on that occasion. Don’t pigeonhole the whole system just because you think everything should fit in your pocket.

  • Narretz

    Most advanced technology does not mean it’ll blow the competition out of the water. It just has to be a tiny little better than what’s currently on the market to make this a true claim. So I don’t expect a quantum leap, and anyway, this is just marketing blabla.

  • Wasn’t it Olympus France who declared that the E-PL5 had no AA filter??

    • admin

      exactly :)

  • Anonymous

    Generalized translation of the Olympus “announcement”:

    1) “The products we introduce this year will be really good.”
    2) “They will be better than the products our competitors will introduce.”
    3) “We also will continue to do the excellent things we have been doing.”

    Well, what else would you expect them to say?

    Re Admin’s wish list:

    — Three-layer sensors will never be as good as Bayer at anything other than low ISO. At higher ISOs, there’s no way of getting around the inherent design problem that the lower layers receive fewer photons. Most customers won’t accept a camera that’s good only at low ISO, which is Foveon is still a niche market despite all the claims made for it.

    — The only extant example of a hybrid optical/electronic viewfinder on an interchangeable-lens camera is on the Fuji X-Pro 1. Ever used one? It’s frustrating to use it for long, because the optical and electronic views require the eye to focus at different distances. Fuji threw a lot of resources at this problem and I have to assume it’s an inherent limitation.

    — The Lumix GH3 can be used with a “full electronic shutter” and tests show the results are reduced speed range, image artifacts, and extreme “Jello effect.” The only way to get around that would be to increase the scan rate drastically, which would bring its own problems. I’m not holding my breath for Olympus to find a solution that has eluded everyone else.

    • Esa Tuunanen

      Foveon is simply sucktastic in efficiency of converting light hitting pixel to actual image:
      Better to aim for sensors which have RGB photosites in every pixel and use some kind pixel level beam splitting to different colours. (like Panasonic’s patent)

      And that hybrid electric/optical viewfinder will always be compromise between both generating extra bulk and complexity with mirror and prism needed. Also for 4/3 format it’s simply harder to have bigger optical viewfinder image so it can’t even challenge what Canon and Nikon can offer.

      And electronic shutter as only option basically needs global shutter tech maturing or near its performance.
      GH3’s electronic shutter for stills operates as very slow (because of huge amount of data needing transferring) rolling shutter scanning lines of image from top to bottom with whole process taking 1/10s
      Which kinda makes it useless except for static targets and camera on tripod.

  • Foevon? yes!

    I have nothing against one or two bodies in micro43 system with sensor like Foevon with very good low ISO. If such body won’t be big and expensive, I can but it as a second body. Cheap, small (like EPM2) body with Foeveon-like sensor (very good ISO 50 and 100, very good DR) – i will buy one.

    3-layers sensor? Maybe 3 sensor, separate for each colour, with prism in front?

    • Anonymous

      Right on!

      Just because the foveon is not an “all around performer” doesn’t mean there should not be foveon bodies available.

      I would buy a second or even a third body if there was enough of a difference to woo me.

      I would buy a body with a high res monochrome sensor and even a foveon if the quality was worth it.

  • Bob B.

    “This new camera will have the most advanced digital technology on the market”.
    This is a vague statement from a source with a more-than shaky track record for reliable, meaningful leaks.
    …but this is a rumor site!
    I would guess that the statement refers to the sensor in the new Olympus “pro” camera body that we have been hearing about. Whatever this camera body is, I think it main advancements will be taking Micro Four Thirds to a new level…makes sense with the system of lenses that is available, with more on the way! As a secondary I think that there will be some sort of new technology with the AF that will some how better accommodate a more-fully-capable adapter for existing 4/3’s lenses, but this is not the main thrust of the new body, just a helpful attribute of some newer technology that can accommodate the older, larger lenses.
    At any rate…it involves Sony and Olympus so it should be something exciting!

  • Miroslav

    Whatever they make has to be as small as E-M5 or smaller. Make additional grips for folks with large hands :D. If I wanted a brick, I would have bought a DSLR.

    Personally I’m not interested in hybrid viewfinders and find E-M5 sensor pretty capable combined with IBIS and fast lenses, so I don’t think they need to work on those fronts. Electronic shutter would be nice though…

    What I’d like them to do first is to start putting decent grips (G5 or NEX-7 like for example) on their bodies and to ditch retro styling. Not hard, but for Olympus it somehow is.

    • Esa Tuunanen

      > Whatever they make has to be as small as E-M5 or smaller.
      No one was asking about your unwillingess to buy high end tool.

      Three Pens and OM-D is enough of small unergonomical direct controls lacking compacts. And their next iterations will get those upgrades physically possible to fit into small size.

      High end Olympus needs to be ergonomically at level of GH3 or it will only push those people waiting high end body bridging 4/3 and m4/3 into one complete mirrorless system to Canon and Nikon.
      Pocket Pens only policy of past few years already cost Olympus many of its DSLR users happily welcomed by Canikon offering ergonomical tools instead of fashion decorations.

  • Nathan

    Things you will never hear from the PR department of any company:

    This year, we’re going to rehash the old ideas we came up with last year, we don’t have a lot of innovation going on right now. We’re kind of slowing down, there’s really no reason to look at our products this year, maybe it’s time to consider moving to a competing system. Nothing to see here, move along. We suck.

  • adriaantie

    Keep on dreaming Oly.

    • Anonymous


      Have you ever considered suicide? You really, really should!

      • spam

        Don’t agree with that, we need idiot comments to keep us from wasting too much time on rumor sites.

  • Anonymous

    Why would Olympus Europe know anything about future product engineering anyway. Wouldn’t they only have marketing mushrooms and admin in Europe anyway?

  • The Other Chris

    What about the liquid mirror that becomes completely transparent with an electrical input? Wasn’t that patented by Olympus a while back?

  • jasaero

    Seems everyone is missing the most probable “most advanced digital technology” that will probably make this camera unique. This will be the on sensor phase detect focus more than likely. Up until now such tech has been reserved to mostly lower priced entry level stuff from competitors, other than Sony anyhow. And even Sony went with some wacky traditional phase detect adapter gizmo to actually best control legacy lenses.

    The adapter really needs to be as affordable as possible really to be broadly accepted and the body truly handy to switch from 4/3 to m4/3 back to some different 4/3. If you have some over sized gizmo that is very expensive you can’t just keep adapters on the 4/3 lenses. If you have most of the capability to properly focus the 4/3 stuff at full focus speed capability fully built into a m4/3 body and only need mostly an offset and wiring connector variety adapter you should be able to have an adapter for EVERY 4/3 lens you own and use them with only the added size as the hassle. To accomplish such a thing with similar capability to dedicated phase detect sensors you need a very different and more advance on sensor phase detect capability than anything currently on the market.

    The Foveon stuff might not be totally lost. This could be a 2 layer sensor with phase detect stuff only on the lower layer rather than any pixels used for the actual image area as is currently common. That’s just a wild guess to keep those focused on multi-layer interested though.

  • Esrhan

    I wonder if anyone at Olympus outside of Japan has hinted that these type of cameras really should shoot video at other rates than just 30 fps? The “most advanced digital technology” should mean that it outperforms Panasonic’s GH3 in terms of video as well. I seriously doubt that.

  • _katira_

    Hi Admin , the comments regarding the comments Look strange in the mobile version: just 2-3-4 letters per line. Cheers

    When the new camera is out, I hope we can get the omd for 800 euros ;-)

  • Daemonius

    If it would be Foveon like sensor, than expect max usable ISO 400 and 3x power consumption. And near no video options.

    Foveon is great idea for low ISO, when done right, it can let you capture photos like nothing else. But since physical laws apply to everyone, you cant currently make that camera capable of shooting at anyting else than base ISO + 1-2eV..

    Yea did I say it eats 3x times more? (thats why DP1M and DP2M battery life is so bad)

  • Leif

    I’m pretty sceptical about the electronic shutters after seeing the problems the Panasonics have. Rolling shutter effects on still pictures are horrible. If they do one it must be a very good one and hopefully “just” as an additional feature we can turn off.

    • spam

      Nothing wrong with electronic shutters, what you’re thinking about is in many models already and are used in video mode and for really fast shutter speeds. The problem is that one or a few lines are read at once creating the jelly-effect on moving subject.

      What admin (I presume) is thinking about is called global electronic shutter and reads the whole sensor at once, removing the problems with the current ones. There’s been a lot of rumors about global electronic shutters, but so far only one high end (Full Frame) Sony Videocamera got one. The reason is that they require support electronics for each pixels which take a lot of surface area on the sensor (I’ve seen estimates of around half the sensor area).

      Global electronic shutters would give a lot of advantages, fewer moving parts, less vibrations, less parts etc. I’m sure somebody will figure it out sooner or later (BSI might help), but I wouldn’t expect it anytime soon for mFT.

  • Anonymous

    I bet it has new silver paint technology as well to pair better with the new $300 premium special edition silver lenses on the way, those that paid $300 for special edition black lenses can get them at a reduced price. Just think, now everyone can pay extra for the color the want.

  • Anonymous

    I am happy with the E-M5, and my main interest would be new, high quality lenses — mainly small/fixed focus. Current wish list: a good tele lens: must be weather sealed and black (I’m fine with silver lenses otherwise, but not for photographing birds/animals). It should be 3-400 mm and allow a 1.4x TC with resulting aperture <= 5.6. Alternatively a zoom: 150/200-400 b

    What would I "require" from a better camera to buy it?
    * still small, not much bigger than the E-M5. But improved buttons/knobs + improved layout. On-off handle is ok, but that of Nikon is better (around release button)
    * weather sealed, better design of protection around flash shoe (current solution is somewhat clumsy)
    * bigger/better base battery capacity.
    * 5-axis IBIS or better/improved
    * improved/more logical menu layout and function name!!!
    * vastly improved CAF/tracking.
    * improved AF/CAF/etc with 43 lenses — in case I'll buy the 12-60 or the 14-54, or in case I win in Lotto and "need" a 300/2.8 :-)
    * somewhat improved sensor (16Mpx is fine — no need for more, with improved low ISO properties while maintaining high ISO properties))
    * improved EVF (higher resolution, higher refresh rate/better colors, improved usability). No need for OVF for me.
    * preferably built-in flash
    * radio control of external flash (like Canon) — no need for line of sight
    * further improvement of automatic WB and simplification of manual WB calibration
    * improved possibility to export pictures wirelessly to tablets, etc. Support for remote control via tablet apps
    * improved bandwidth to storage cards

    • You really believe that Oly engineers read your shopping list like a grocer? Think again: they are paid to work, not to laugh :)

      • Anonymous

        If they laugh, good for them. Do they read the list? Most likely not. Do I care what you think? He, he :-).

        • BdV

          Actually they would be stupid not to read these, because it’s terribly interesting for a manufacturer to know what customers want to buy…

          • doug

            Yeah. That’s where the Pontiac Aztec came from. Focus-sourced engineering. How’d that turn out?

    • Esa Tuunanen

      > or in case I win in Lotto and “need” a 300/2.8
      Why this prime mania?
      Same size and weight 90-250mm would be lot more practical and versatile and is no slouch in optical performance. (MTF curves tell it’s optimized for 250mm end)

      First of all “magnification” difference between 250mm and 300mm is almost marginal. Doubling magnification needs doubling the focal length and in case in which 250mm isn’t anymore enough 300mm isn’t much better and also needs use of teleconverter.
      90-250mm is also f/2.8 so there’s no loss in light gathering ability and works equally with teleconverters.
      And in nature photography controlling situation is luxury you don’t have so ability to zoom out for closer coming animals is very usefull.

  • ajendus

    I’m I reading this correctly that this will be 4/3 rather than m43?

    • spam

      No, you’re reading it wrong. It will be mFT camera that will AF fast with 4/3 lenses (if Olympus keep their promises). And admin’s wish list is extremely unlikely to become real although electronic shutter might be possible.

      • Bob B.

        4/3 lenses will focus fast on the camera with an optional/additional adapter. Therefore the camera is MFT-oriented first, and then is will accomodate the 4/3 lenses second, apparently much better than any MFT camera to date…but the way I have been reading all of the clues the main drive of the new OM is to further MFT to a more pro level. Makes sense.

    • Yepp, natural.

  • Frye

    Let’s see: a 3 layer foveon style sensor w/ global shutter, noise free up to 6400, in a metal rangefinder body with hybrid optical EVF. Did I leave anything out?

  • ljmac

    What is it with people always wishing for “full frame” or, barring that, Foveon? FF will either make the lenses too big and heavy, or optically atrocious. And Foveon is a proven failure as an all-round sensor technology. So why do the admin and people in camera forums keep wishing for them?

    • Anonymous

      Olympus & Panasonic are (at best) third-tier players in the camera world. So, people on this board will wish for any random thing.

      But unless you can find a way to alter physics, the only way to achieve superb IQ is through the use of larger sensors, and bigger sensor-sites. So, FF is going anywhere, and the lenses only need to be as big as needed. Ever shoot a Leica? Those lenses are tiny, and I do believe they may be okay.

      • bart

        Following your reasoning, you’d really really have to go to a medium format sensor, or even better, a large format sensor.

        “Full frame” is marketing bullshit, a m4/3 sensor is full frame, for a 4/3″ format sensor.
        135 is a historic format, and not one created for ‘superb image quality’ at all, rather, it happened to be a readily available film size for motion picture use that could provide good enough quality for still images also while being very compact.

        There is only one relevant consideration for image quality for photographers, and that is ‘sufficient for the intended application’. Everything else is spec wanking for gearheads.

  • we look at performance vs size/weight ratio, its here where mft is superior to 24×36.

    • oops sorry,this was meant as reply on Anonymous above me

    • no need for formulas, it’s obvious; you loose some IQ at high isos,you loose lots of bulk, or:you wont notice difference in IQ at lower isos, you will notice dramatic decrease in size and weight.

  • so what is the reason for you to use MFT…Mr.Dick?

  • yes it does Mr. Dick….you are not really into MFT, that explains everything, so I can understand Amalric’s advice ;-)

  • zelko

    Of course no one would announce a camera with just mediocre technology or even out-dated technology.

    I would expect from a future pro-camera:
    .) a sturdy and durable, yet lightweight body
    .) weather sealing for lenses (and flash)
    .) fast and reliable autofocus performance, especially at low-light
    .) configurable functions for buttons/dials or even complete settings saved
    .) high battery life
    .) an excellent large viewfinder usable under bright conditions
    .) guaranteed number of shutter actuations (150k+++)
    .) an underwater housing (not necessary from Olympus, but at least supported)

    Of course there would be other requirements, but these ones are most important to me. The OM-D comes very near to these requirements. If Oly would produce a real pro camera in MFT, this would be a great step forward and I’d happily invest in such a camera.


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