Ricoh GXR tested on dpreview (and compared with the Panasonic GF1)

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Dpreview just posted the Ricoh GXR review.

They compared the camera with the Panasonic GF1. Use this quick links to see the results:

Ricoh GXR vs Panasonic GF1 noise test: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/ricohgxra12/page15.asp
Ricoh GXR vs Panasonic GF1 JPG test: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/ricohgxra12/page24.asp
Ricoh GXR vs Panasonic GF1 RAW test: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/ricohgxra12/page28.asp
Ricoh GXR vs Panasonic GF1 High ISO: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/ricohgxra12/page29.asp
Ricoh GXR vs Panasonic GF1 Resolution: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/ricohgxra12/page30.asp

Reminder: the Ricoh GRX is a modular camera. If you buy every single piece on Amazon you will have to spend quite a lot :(.

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  • BB

    Ouch! $US1,176 at Amazon. Not the direction I wanted to go in spite of the favorable review.

  • HHBLx

    Just finished readinbg the Dpreview review of GXR. Nice idea but doesn’t seem to offer anything that would make me switch from m4/3. The reviewer made one comment that I hope Oly and Pany will take to heart:

    “One area where the GXR wins…hands down over the current Micro Four Thirds equivalents is handling. The black, textured body might not be that pretty, but it feels remarkably good in the hand, and its got a decent grip too. The controls (once you’ve got it set up to suit your style of shooting) are very well placed and, like the GRD, seem designed by people who actually understand what photographers do with cameras. With the S10 zoom attached it’s a perfectly usable ‘one hand’ camera (the A12 50mm prime is a bit front heavy and feels a lot more stable supported by both mitts).”

    Based on its history I think Oly could be the leader in camera/human interfaces if they put their mind to it. Pany could too but who knows what a huge electronics company will decide to focus on with its camera division? Either way, for now, m4/3 rules.

  • zul

    For me the review is just marginal to compare… but paying for a lot of money seems unjust… I still prefer normal interchangeable lens camera

  • Agent00soul

    Hmm… with the f/2.5 lens it has neither better DOF control nor better low light ability than an m4/3 camera with the 20/1.7 lens. And no IS… And AF at least as slow as the E-P1… And not pocketable…

  • ChoppedLiver

    Actually since the GXR has an APS-C sensor vs the 4/3 sensor, and a 33mm lens vs the 20mm panasonic lens, the Ricoh f2.5 len DOES have better DOF control than the 20mm1.7. You can compare for yourself at the online dof calculator.

    It is expensive though. At the end of the day we should choose whatever we like the most at a price we can afford. This may or may not be the camera that wins the highest dpreview ratings.

    Agent00soul you mention that GXR is not pocketable. Do you actually carry the E-P1 in your pocket?

  • Agent00soul

    Well, the GXR is just over one stop slower. The difference in sensor size accounts for around one stop DOF difference. So no advantage.
    And yes, I do carry the E-P1 with 20/1.7 in my pocket. Actually, I have it with me (in the pocket) to work every day. It’s sitting on my desk as we speak.

  • Seb

    You must wear some very large trousers. (and the GXR have better high ISO performance)

  • Agent00soul

    Seb, who was talking about trousers? I carry it in this:
    http://www.tucanourbano.it/App_Images/prodotti/HiRes/834_big.jpg

    And regarding the GXR’s better high ISO performance: Is it more than one step better? Because the m4/3 has a little over one stop larger aperture, so the GXR will have to use one stop higher ISO to compensate for this.

  • seb

    Is think you can easily carry a gxr in that kind of pocket :)

    Based on dpreview, high ISO performance are amazing. It’s kinda hard to quantify how many stop you win against, but GXR image quality seem to be the best right now for a mirrorless (after Leica M9 or leica lenses mounted on 4/3). Hopefully, because it’s really expensive and this system is way less versatile as a interchangeable lens system.

  • ChoppedLiver

    Agent00Soul I’m glad you can actually carry the EP-1 in your pocket. :) Actually I’m slightly envious. I live in hot weather so that won’t work out for me ha ha.

    Clarifying regarding the DoF control comparison. Let’s just do some quick sloppy math…
    Panasonic f1.7 vs Ricoh f2.5 —> 1 stop advantage for Panasonic
    m43 sensor vs APS-C sensor —> 1 stop advantage for Ricoh
    so far we’re even.
    But:
    Panasonic 20mm lens vs Ricoh 33mm lens —> advantage Ricoh.
    Also being that GXR has a macro lens, you can get closer to the subject and have more bokeh (although circle of confusion remains the same).

    From http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html, it shows that, @ 10 feet
    EPL with 20mm/1.7 gives 3.96ft DoF
    GXR with 33mm/2.5 gives 2.85ft DoF (I used a D70 as the camera, comparable sensor size)

    IMO GF1, EP1/2, EPL, GXR are all fine cameras. We should be happy that they all have their strength and push each other to future improvements (or at least price drops!)

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