Recap: Our best rumors (GH2, E-5 and more)
It’s time for a rumors recap! All those rumors are from our reliable sources so there is an 80-90% chance those rumors will prove out true!
Panasonic rumors:
1) Panasonic will announce new products on September 21
2) Following products will be unveiled:
- GH2
- 14mm (f/2.5?)
- 100-300mm
- 3D lens
3) The GH2 has a new 18Megapixels multi-scale sensor (16 effective Megapixels) -> Click here to read more
3) The compact GF2 will be unveiled few months after Photokina (December-February) ->Click here to read more
4) There will be a new lens roadmap that will include the fast lenses we were talking about since months (faster than f/1.4!)
Olympus rumors:
1) Olympus will announce new products on September 14. ->Click here to read more
2) The E-5 will have a 12Megapixel sensor ->Click here to read more
Is that everything we are going to see at Photokina? Don’t believe that! What I can tell you is that I received tons of rumors about the following stuff:
1) Olympus new camera system (modular, super43 sensor, Kodak and more). Maybe Olympus will talk about that at Photokina…
2) Panasonic new technology (?)
3) One more company could release MFT products soon (and we will give you more news about that soon!)
A personal note: Talking with my sources I got the feeling that there is much more to come than just the GH2 and E-5. Don’t know if there will be other real products but my bet is that there will be some unexpected BIG news coming from both companies!
Stay tuned on 43rumors….
Ale
Inge - M.
3 years ago |And maybe this sensor patent from Panasonic,
http://image-sensor.world.blogspot.com/2007/05/more-about.panasonic-lightfast-cis.html
Alfons
3 years ago |There’s plenty of small companies developing sensor technology. Somehow these small companies don’t seem to interest the big camera manufacturers. I don’t know why.
Another example:
http://www.pixpolar.com/company.html
Just google it and you’ll find dozens of companies working on very interesting sensor designs.
mikep
3 years ago |Back in March, dpreview ran a short news item on a company called InVisage Technologies who claim to have developed a sensor based on quantum dots (http://www.dpreview.com/news/1003/10032201quantumfilm.asp). The truly interest thing is that they claim their technology offers four times better performance than conventional sensors. It was stated tht the first application would be mobile phone sensors later in the year. Now, let’s speculate. A four thirds sensor using this technology would be equivalent to a full frame 35mm sensor as far as light gathering capacity was concerned. I’ve read lots of suggestions about what sensor the E5 might have and I’ve been waiting for someone to suggest this one but no one has. So, just what if Olympus have managed to get their hands on a sensor from InVisage Technologies? Now that would be quite a thing.
Neonart
3 years ago |Oh great. This one is targeted at the virgins! How much of a niche market do they want!?
Alberto
3 years ago |Thanks jacint, very interesting and intriguing
jacint
3 years ago |Hi Alberto.
On the second page;
008 OLYMPUS E-5. Aimed at the supreme picture quality, Olympus flagship DSLR. E-5 works. Toward the virgin forest.
elmasahe
3 years ago |the suspense is killing. 3 more days to go before the official announcement of Olympus. I am very hopeful that oly will shock us with something new and better image quality at high ISO and better Dynamic range.
Alberto
3 years ago |Hi Jacint, can you translate the E-5 text?
Boooo!
3 years ago |He never had any info.
Jacint
3 years ago |It will be E-5.
http://amzn.to/9NZrUY
Alfons
3 years ago |Oh, I thought that you wanted a lens that works like Pentax 35mm on their bodies. That lens gives about the same FOV on 1.5 crop than 50mm on 135 film.
You already have the 35mm F2, but you still want the F2.4? So you are looking for autofocus? Smaller size?
For autofocusing 35mm, you may be out of luck. I’m sure there’s plenty of new lenses coming to m4/3 format, so manufacturers like Voigtländer may be something to look upon. Panasonic and Olympus don’t seem to think that we would really buy those primes
Heck, 5 of 8 lenses I own are primes and I really like to shoot with them.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Sigma or other lens maker would also join the game.
Tim
3 years ago |Jason, any more dirt on the E5? Do you really have a little info or are you messing with us?
Man I hope they release this on the 14th, and I hope it’s something special.
It’s just not really in Olympus’s DNA to not at least try to release something special. I mean, that’s the whole reason they waited an extra year is what we were led to believe.
marcram
3 years ago |I haven’t tried the 25mm pancake, but often use a Pentax 35mm f2 on my EPL1 and the DOF is shallow and it is good for portraits. Do you not think there is a big difference between 50mm and 70mm equivalent? I don’t have experience with other crop factors, but I really like 70mm equivalent. If they gave us an autofocus 35mm f2.0 or f2.4, it would certainly be a good people photo lens.
Neville
3 years ago |I’m hoping they will be selling it with a really nice lens that I haven’t got as a kit at a ridiculously cheap price
Marilyn
3 years ago |Zuiko really develop first good lens especially the blade of it. Even our kits lens but if the e5 will be price worth 1900us it’s better not to upgrade… If ur going to compared to d7000 price
Jason
3 years ago |Agreed…
Marilyn
3 years ago |Now If u compare SHG lens and high end canikan ekeke thing zuiko is superior and cheaper
Marilyn
3 years ago |Wait let me explain one of the things I have found out of nikon kits lens, canon kit lens and Olympus kits lens…
Nikkor 18-105 kit can’t make sun burst effect
Canon 18-55 less contrast and with indoor photogs lol
Zuiko 14-42 kit it can so sun burst effect can also do high contrast indoor shoot
Jason
3 years ago |Ok, but many of the FourThirds equivalents are optically superior and have been around for a while. FT is still produces the best images. That said, the 14mm and 20mm pancakes/primes would be a nice advantage in FT, but I doubt they will produce them, because size is really what MFT is about.
Jason
3 years ago |Exactly Neveille, where are these newbies getting the idea that you need so many lenses, and if that is the case, the FT lineup clearly crushes the Pannys in almost every category: http://www.four-thirds.org/en/fourthirds/lense.html
I only need a few lens and FT has all of them (yes there are few other lenses that would be fun to play with, but they are expensive). If I was rich, on top of my Leica 25mm Summilux and 50mm Zuiko macro, I would add the FourThirds:
14-35mm Zuiko SHG
300mm Zuiko SHG
14-150mm Leica
7-14mm Wide Angle zoom
but considering those lenses are on average $1,000 or more each, I’m fine with what I have for now. Still it is hilarious how MFT owners keep saying FT doesn’t have the lenses, yet they pretty much have everything that normal photographers need.
http://www.four-thirds.org/en/fourthirds/lense.html
Andrew
3 years ago |actually you’re just confusing what i said. I didn’t say “look at all the primes we have.” i’m simply stating how many lenses have been produced in such a short time.
Neville
3 years ago |Sigh, back to the basics of photography. All the great artists recommend starting with only one lens. The temptation is there to have more and more, but the reality is we don’t need them
Neville
3 years ago |Just walk a little further back, or walk a little closer
Jason
3 years ago |Well that list includes a bunch of zooms, which are definitely not primes. Primes are a single focal length, like the amazing 25mm F/1.4 Leica Summilux lens for FourThirds, now that, is the definition of a prime. You must be confusing high grade and prime.
There are number of comparable high grade lens to the ones you have listed, but for FT mount. How about a Panasonic 14-150mm (untouchable) or the 14-35mm F/2.0 (unprecedented), the 7-14mm Zuiko (amazing), 50 mm f/2.0 macro (nothing even comparable), 12-60mm f/2.8 (great lens)….
Clearly, the FourThirds system has a better lens lineup, no question.
Andrew
3 years ago |Its incredibly frustrating that we don’t have the primes we want and yet, i mean, look at how many panny lenses there will be:
8mm fisheye
7-14mm
14mm
20mm
14-45mm
14-42mm
45mm macro
14-140mm
45-200mm
100-300mm
oh, almost forgot
3D lens
kinda ridiculous how many lenses there are. give us the goddamn 50…
Neonart
3 years ago |Yeah, a 35mm f2.5 on APS-C is nothing special. As Alfons has pointed out, the 25mm f2.8 is close enough. Made to be cheap and light, with OK image quality.
Here it is from B&H for $219.00 (They often have it for $205) http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/549015-REG/Olympus_261059_25mm_f_2_8_ED_Zuiko.html
But, if Oly or Panny had a 25 f2 or something, that was light and cheap and not as tiny as the pancake it could be a super popular lens! Heck something TOO small can be strange. I don’t mount the 25 2.8 on my E3 because it looks and feels so weird! I use it on my L1 all the time. If it where the size of the 35 f3.5 I may use it more on the E3. So Pentax is onto something here!
I too would love to see the SHG lenses with one stop less aperture, but smaller and cheaper. While I love the uniqueness of the f2, most people can’t afford them, and their size does not really show the advantage of 4/3.
If those lenses were smaller, and several hundred dollars less @f2.8 or 2.5, with equally insane image quality in sharpness, contrast, etc. alot more people would have them, and more would have appreciated the 4/3 idea. Having said that, the f2 SHGs are out of this world, and still untouched by most.
Alfons
3 years ago |You get the same FOV with Digital Zuiko 25mm F2.8 pancake. Maxinum aperture is about the same too.
Problem solved.
I would like to see 17mm F1.4 SWD and 35-100mm F2.5 SWD lenses from Olympus.
What Pentax did better than Olympus, was their 50-135mm F2.8. It really takes the advantage of crop sensor to make a smaller and cheaper lens. It may not have image quality of Zuiko, but I would love to shoot with one anyway instead of dreaming of a decent prized SWD Zuiko.
marcram
3 years ago |I want an equivalent lens (specs and price) to this lens for m43:
http://dpreview.com/news/1009/10090908pentax35mm.asp
four thirds photo
3 years ago |Very interesting view.
If they are going to make a super43 system, I hope they find a way to mount the top pro glass on it. If they manage to merge mft, 43 and super43 in one system it could be a real winner.
You want it light: go micro
You want the ultimate in image quality, go super43.
Possible to use all lenses on all bodies (with adapters)
That explains the modular thing, and if this modular cam has a oversized super43 sensor it explains even more!
The idea sounds very promising. A bright future for 4/3rds then!
Great!
the other Rob
3 years ago |if the D7000 is going to be $1200, the E-5 should be around $1000, preferably less.
Dan #2
3 years ago |That Pentax looks nice. Coupled with some of those * lenses and primes and you’ll have a nice set up.
dCap
3 years ago |FourThirds is a shape, a format relationship … 4×3
you have to admit that the microFourThirds must have confused some people. It is exactly the same size and shape chip but with a different mount. But I wonder if that message really get across to the casual observer? Sure you can mount FT lenses on a mFT body with an adaptor, but its a bit of a mess … and mFT should be about: being SMALL!
so, SuperFourThirds could be a ‘full frame’ sized 4×3 chip? That would of course need all new lenses, and a 3rd lens mount (FT, mFT, and superFT … that would be an awful mess!). But it could explain the modular thing.
Back when the only chip we had was an APS-C chip, even on the top of the range NIkon and Canon (due to the amazing high cost of chips and file size vs storage media vs battery thing) … I was surprized that nobody made a square format digital camera, the same area as APS-C, it would have had a following. I wonder if Oly et al considered going square when they were getting together to make the 4×3 format?
Inge - M.
3 years ago |This is safe, after modular systemet is come, the can be many very different sensor type and size in MFT, FT possible “FF” also.
ANGRY Olympus Owner
3 years ago |really?
oLi
3 years ago |Challengers for the E-5? Look at the specs…
Nikon D7000:
http://nikonrumors.com/2010/09/06/recap-3.aspx
Expected price: 1.200 US$
Pentax K-5:
http://photorumors.com/2010/09/10/pentax-k-5-leaked/
Expected price: 1.600 US$
Looking forward to Doomesday eeeh, Tuesday.
Alfons
3 years ago |They have 17-70mm F4, it’s not weather sealed (yet?) though… I think they have some pretty nice lenses.
yosemite
3 years ago |What about the release dates of the products? Are there any data from past experiences telling us if these are weeks or months after the announcement dates? I.e. for the GH2, if it is announced on Sep 21, could it be that we’ll have to wait until next spring before being able to purchase it? What was the situation with the GH1 or GF1, or other cameras?
lagus
3 years ago |What about a 12-75 mm f/2.8-4? Just a litle
improvement to what Oly has already made…
(and a fairly fast almost all-purpose lens!)
kesztió
3 years ago |Not enough for me.
I want 9–300/F0.95. As small as 20/F1.7 is. (At least – obviously)
Jules
3 years ago |oups, me was comparing to the kit lens..
compositor20
3 years ago |a 12-75 could be usefull if it is 2.5-3.2
divide 75 for 3.2 and the diamter is close to 24m so the size os this lens should be equal to a 14-140mm that probably has more elements and the new one could have better and bigger glass at wide end so they must be equal in weight too !!that is my guess
POSSIBLE?
3 years ago |What I’m sure of is that the E-5 will be something VERY SPECIAL, not just a luke-warm upgrade what the actual specs predict….
One possibility would be a ‘future-secure’ way that the E-5 is the last of the ‘classic’ 43 line AS WE KNOW IT, but what if it will probably feature an exchangeable sensor, which would explain the ‘only’ 12 mpx would be the ‘basic’ sensor, for the basic kit,
BUT there will be probably 2 – 3 other sensors announced at the same time, maybe one ‘apochromatic’ for black/white only for extreme gradations (similar to what phase one announced as digiback), one high resolution sensor – Panasonic GH-2 18 mpx sensor?.. , maybe a high DR version sensor 14 – 15 stops, 10 mpx, fuji?… or a silky smooth colour sensor unbeatable at lower isos for true colour reproduction and portraits, Kodak?…
Like this also future ‘sensor updates could be added in a modular way later on to a near perfect body as tech evolves.
Just a thought..
POSSIBLE?
3 years ago |What I’m sure of is that the E-5 will be something VERY SPECIAL, not just a luke-warm upgrade what the actual specs predict….
One possibility would be a ‘future-secure’ way that the E-5 is the last of the ‘classic’ 43 line AS WE KNOW IT, but what if it will probably feature an exchangeable sensor, which would explain the ‘only’ 12 mpx would be the ‘basic’ sensor, for the basic kit,
BUT there will be probably 2 – 3 other sensors announced at the same time, maybe one ‘apochromatic’ for black/white only for extreme tonal gradations (similar to what phase one announced as digiback), one high resolution sensor – Panasonic GH-2 18 mpx sensor?.. , maybe a high DR version sensor 14 – 15 stops, 10 mpx, from fuji?… or a silky smooth colour sensor unbeatable at lower isos for true colour reproduction and portraits, Kodak?…
Just a thought..
John
3 years ago |Wow, that’s one hell-ov-a camera. I wonder if the sensor is worth a darn.
Dummy00001
3 years ago |Does Pentax have anything comparable to Zuiko 12-60mm (24-120mm eq.)?
Martin
3 years ago |OK, here you are: 12-200mm f/1.4. A bit smaller than the Olympus kit lens and much sharper, wide open!
YeahYeah
3 years ago |I guess we’ll only see an E5 (i.e. an E3s) and a GH2… Dark times
spanky
3 years ago |“A personal note: Talking with my sources I got the feeling that there is much more to come than just the GH2 and E-5. Don’t know if there will be other real products but my bet is that there will be some unexpected BIG news coming from both companies!”
Panasonic will buy a controlling stake in Olympus to have access to their knowledge in building professional bodies?
kesztió
3 years ago |Rumors about the new(?) GH2 kit lens?
Alfons
3 years ago |If we could, I would have already bought the K-7
Joe
3 years ago |So is there any other news of new 4/3 lenses? I’m still not satisfied with my only top quality “standard” lens being the $800 Panasonic (Leica). Couldn’t they make something more affordable (better quality than the Sigma and faster than the pancake?)
Neonart
3 years ago |Oh-oh.
That K5 looks good. Im with you Alfons. Pentax is the only other Camera that I’ve really considered as a true alternative to Oly.
They did not seem to have anything really worth leaving the E3 for, but this may change things. Lets see what Oly has in store. I really love 4/3 glass…
Jules
3 years ago |Half a stop and 2mm wider at the wide end.
A full stop and 15mm longer at the tele end.
Thats quite a demand on its own and it begs for a few questions
OIS ?
IQ ?
Size ?
And the question that kills : $ ?
Did I mention size? I’d love to see on an EP-L1…
four thirds photo
3 years ago |unfortunately we cannot stick the zuiko glass on a Pentax!
Alfons
3 years ago |I have always kept the weather sealed Pentax cameras the closest competition to E-3. Camera with alike features and price from a smaller company.
Well, here’s their K-5! http://photorumors.com/2010/09/10/pentax-k-5-leaked/
I truly hope Olympus has still some cards up their sleeve for 4/3.
admin
3 years ago |As soon as I have some more reliable info…
ANGRY Olympus Owner
3 years ago |+1
Tim
3 years ago |Super 4/3 sensor in E5..not the modular frankenstein camera
henrik
3 years ago |The Pana lens rumors are toxic – why do i feel so sleepy and tired after digesting them?
marilyn
3 years ago |i cant take it anymore… the rumors are over taking my mind solution and problems…
Andrew
3 years ago |I kinda prefer rumors FT3 and up. To each his own.
four thirds photo
3 years ago |If you want clean iso 6400, I can predict that you will be disappointed by the E5.
I prefer to have 12 stops Dr and clean iso 1600. I think this is also realistic. 5 FPS is enough to make good action shots. Timing is more important. Don’t mind the number of AF points, as long as AF is highly improved over the E3.
Admin: what about the super 4/3 sensor? Give us more of this! Sounds really interesting. 4/3super sensor in modular 4/3rds cam in 2011?
Tropical Yeti
3 years ago |FTRumors: ” I received tons of rumors about the following stuff: ”
Well, if you have tons of it, why not share with us at least a few kilos – maybe?
KI
3 years ago |I hope the E-5 doesn’t dissapoint me. There’s no need in releasing a camera with the name “E-5″ if it’s just another E-3 with limited improvements. It should be E3.1 instead…
I hope the comming E-5 really got a high quality sensor with high DR and good ISO performance. … and should be usable at >6400 (instead of having a upper limit of 6400 as the rumor…). … and 12.3 is enough for me… 10 is enough for me. Just give me better noise performance and DR!!
720p …….. eeehh…….. why not just 1080p to start with? I really hope the 720p limit is just bogus … and it’s really 1080p/24.
5fps is ok. would prefer 6…, but it really doesn’t matter that much.
The autofocus with 11 points seems ok as I’m very pleased with the E-3. … but this is no “news” … it’s just standard.
A bigger screen …. that can rotate… well. It’s just the thing you’d have to expect. No news there.
Weather proofing… well; what did you expect!? … it’s an E-x not an E-xxx!!!
Tobias W.
3 years ago |That lens would be quite large. Just compare to the FT Zuiko 12-60mm f/2.8-4. I don’t think a faster lens over a wider focal range can be built smaller at a comparable quality.
So, keep dreaming.
Martin
3 years ago |No. It is pure fluff.
TempTag
3 years ago |Will be curious to look back in 1-3 months and see how many of these prove to be accurate…
(But thanks for the site and please keep posting more rumors!)
divide
3 years ago |I hope the rumors about a 12-75 f2.5 (GH2 kit lens) is true !
Lin
3 years ago |super43 sensor?~
What’s that? A Super CCD 4/3 scensor?