POLL CLOSED: What is the right definition for the new mirrrorless system cameras?
Few days ago we asked you to choose the correct definition for the new mirrorless interchangeable digital camer systems. This are the final results:
A nice side effect of the poll is that you found a lof of new definitions
MMC = Micro Multi Lens Camera
SLIC = Single Lens Interchangable Cameras
FLV = Full-time Live View
DDIL = Direct (view), Digital, Interchangeable (lens)
SLC = Single Lens Reflex
DSLC = Digital Single Lens Compact
SIC = Sensor Imaging Cameras
MILF = Mirror-less Interchangeable Lens Format
LVS = Live View System
DSLM = Digital Single Lens Mirrorless
LIVE = Lens Interchangeable Viewfinder Electronic.
ILEV = Interchangable Lens Electronic View
SHC = System Hybrid Camera
DHC = Digital Hybrid Camera
DHS = Digital Hybrid System
and finally
PMDL = poor man digital leica
P.S: I do like the LIVE definition.

Swingline
2 years ago |Desil digitial electronic sensor w interchangeable lenses
hans
2 years ago |How can be the right name EVIL. For me is an EVIL camera a camera with an electronic viewfinder and the most new MFT hasn’t an elecronic viewfinder (only adiccional)!
piscesen
2 years ago |But E-P1, E-P2, E-PL1, and GF1 don’t have built-in EVF…
Dave
2 years ago |Yes, EVIL makes no sense if there isn’t actually an electronic viewfinder in the camera.
piscesen
2 years ago |How about these?
DISLL = Digital Interchangeable Single Lens Liveview
DISLR = Digital Interchangeable Single Lens Reflex (I don’t agree with this.)
DSLD (1) = Digital Single Lens Digital
DSLD (2) = Digital Single Lens Direct
DSLE = Digital Single Lens Electric
DSLM = Digital Single Lens Mirrorless
DSLL = Digital Single Lens Liveview
DSLN = Digital Single Lens Non-reflect
ISLD = Interchangeable Single Lens Digital
LVS = Live View System
SILD = Single Interchangeable Lens Digital
SLD = Single Lens Digital (this means the rear of the lens is digital instead of reflect mirror.)
SLLV = Single Lens Live View
(from Korean sites)
Of course, these are not charming idears!
LIVE 4 LIVE & EVIL 4 EVIL
2 years ago |I Do like both “LIVE” and “EVIL” definitions
Ed Hawco
2 years ago |It’s really unfortunate that so many people voted for EVIL. Arguably, they all have electronic viewfinders (the screen on the back is electronic, and it’s a viewfinder of sorts), but EVIL is a really, really dumb acronym.
It’s dumb because the word it appears to be based on (“evil”) has nothing to do with compact, mirrorless, interchangeable-lens cameras. If we were all AGAINST these cameras and thought they were “evil” then it would be a cute acronym.
But as it is, it sets up a huge, clanging dissonance between what you *are* saying (compact, mirrorless, interchangeable-lens camera) and what you *appear* to be saying (this camera is inherently bad and will cause bad things to happen).
The only merit to this acronym is that it’s cute and spells out a word. But if the word is misleading, it nullifies that merit. More importantly, an acronym does not HAVE to spell out a word! SLR, DSLR, TLR, IRS, SPCA, on, and on, we have acronyms that do not spell out a word, but we know what they are and what they mean.
Acronyms *hardly ever* spell out a recognizable word, and when they do the risk of them being misunderstood is increased. This stupid “EVIL” acronym is being perpetuated by a bunch of people who get a chuckle out of how clever they feel, but all they’re doing is adding confusion to the language and confounding people who are trying to learn about photography.
That’s my rant, and I stand by it. Even if a law is passed, I will never refer to this kind of camera as “EVIL.” >:-/
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Reality Scanner
2 years ago |the best is still missing – call it simply
DSC = Digital System Camera
This would cover i.e. Ricoh GXR, too.
J.C.
2 years ago |Wrong the best is:
DEVIL
Digital, Electronic Viewfinder, Interchangeable Lens
And it will tear your photo world apart.
Omox
2 years ago |EVIL
yes!!!!!
Omox
2 years ago |@Ed Hawco
Everytime I see it there is a smile on my face
Relax Ed… have fun!
EVIL is cool. And it is the best acronym I’ve ever seen. It is fun, it is… just… like nothing else. It make sens, it moves the emotions. Simpy – great!
I can tell thee:
There is no good without EVIL
Jeanmarc
2 years ago |To use an acronym is not sexy.
If we indicate this type of machine by an acronym, it would be the only ones next to the Compact and the other Reflex. It would be depreciating, as to indicate one under kind.
I learnt that to indicate a thing we use a word, to indicate the other one we use another word, to remain clear. The Compact and other names have a precise sense and cannot be thus reused without confusion.
If for the moment, these new devices have still a shape close to cameras, very fast they will have to innovate to take into account ergonomic needs of the video.
It is for these reasons that I defends the term of Hybrid, which can decline according to needs in Hybrid-Compact ( E-P1), Hybrid-Reflex ( GH1), Hybrid-Scope why not for future models to the different ergonomics.
piscesen
2 years ago |Another ideas~
MILC = Mirror-less Interchangeable Lens Camera (pronounce like MILK??)
MILD = Mirror-less Interchangeable Lens Digital
Nj
2 years ago |The English language is flawed in not properly allowing for composite words, so everything is expressed in separate words and there are countless 3-letter-abbreviations.
German on the other hand does, so I propose the name Direktsichtkamera (direct view camera) or Wechselobjektivkompaktkamera (interchangeable lens compact camera).
You people may start to learn the pronounciation now.
Jules
2 years ago |I agree with Ed. I cannot use the word EVIL with non-initiated, as it suggest anything but the type of system.
If I say “this is a ILC camera” I may get as an answer “ok, what does ILC stands for?”
Try that with EVIL…
Fashionable but clumsy acronym.
Will
2 years ago |“mirror-less” doesn’t make any sense, because in the same way, one could call these new cameras “watermelon-less”, because they lack a watermelon.
(More technically, it requires awareness of a different kind of camera that HAS a mirror. And nothing should be dependent on something else in order to be understood.)
Ed Hawco
2 years ago |Thanks Jules!
Will is wise. Mirrorless is moot.
The two defining characteristics of these cameras are that they are small (compact) and they use interchangeable lenses.
Therefore, ILC (interchangeable lens compact).
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JanM
2 years ago |As I might be the one (or one of a crowd) to suggest “LIVE” as a name for the new type of cameras, I would like to argue a bit more.
Originally Olympus made up the phrase: “Liveview” to express the new ways/invention that hit the market for, was it only – 2 years ago?
The marketing phrase: LIVEVIEW was very quick adopted by all the cameramakers, and so this particular feature in modern cameras is just called: Liveview and everybody knows what your talking about.
Now I think a new positive acronym is in place for the new mirrorless cameas with electronic viewfinders.
This name is a ‘Live’ model. Not a DSLR or whatever.
Many people has argued against EVIL, with much wisedom, and I totally agree. EVIL is a bad name with many other assosiations.
LIVE is somthing differnet, first: It’s not bad. It’s not LiveView, it’s just a LIVE-type of camera
It could be amusing to see a new vote for LIVE contra EVIL
Lenses: Interchangeable
Viewfinder: Electronic
Regards Jan Morgils.
Ed Hawco
2 years ago |Among the other problems with EVIL (and LIVE) that I’ve already articulated is the fact that neither of those terms make any reference to one of the chief defining characteristics of these cameras; the fact that they are SMALL (compact, whatever).
Cameras with live view and EVFs but are only a tad smaller than dSLR size have been on the market for some time. Four-thirds cameras, for example, and some earlier ones with APS-C sensors. The definitions of EVIL and LIVE could suit those too, so they are not good definitions.