Olympus scandal affecting camera sales?
Believe me, I really live in the middle of the nowhere on a high placed town in the alps. And even the local magazine posted the “Olympus scandal” news on the first page. That negative publicity is going around all over the world. And more negative media reports are coming out every day. Olympus delayed once again the release of the financial report and is facing the possibility of being delisted at the Tokyo Exchange (Source: Bloomberg). And ex-Olympus officials face prison if fraud can be proved (Source: Bloomberg).
Is that kind of news affecting current camera sales? I asked a couple of dealers what they are experiencing in their stores. There is indeed a perception form some potential buyers that you should avoid to buy an Olympus camera. But sales are still constant. So there is nothing to worry about it yet. But I really hope Olympus will take action to convince us and the market that they will do the “right things”. I think that kind of moments can be very positive if you learn the lesson. I still have faith. The history of many companies showed that sometimes bad moments helped to create a new success (See Apple history)

YouDidntDidYou
7 months ago |this looks like the final truth http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/business/global/corporate-japan-rocked-by-scandal-at-olympus.html?_r=1&hpw and I still think Woodford was extremely wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“The history of many companies showed that sometimes bad moments helped to create a new success (See Apple history)” from admin above
I hope so because Nikon fan boys are having a field day, and who is really suitable and has the vision to lead Olympus out of this mess??
Mr. Reeee
7 months ago |Not many foundering companies have a visionary step in to take control and save it.
In Steve Jobs’ case he was also a founder of the company, so had a real personal stake in turning Apple around. He did far, FAR more than merely save Apple.
Maybe Olympus will do something smart, like hire some photographers to consult.
I vote for Thom Hogan. He has a great sense of both photography AND the business side of things. They’d be hard pressed to do better
michael
7 months ago |WTF does this have to do with Steve jobs? Companies have problems and stock prices drop significantly all the time — Hell, Martha Stewart Omnimedia has a similar drop last year, even without a scandal.
99% of the time (assuming the brand identity is strong, as it is with Olympus) it’s a massive buying opportunity. 1% of the time, it means death (Borders, Enron).
It sounds like the extent of your business knowledge is based around Apple, which (obviously) isn’t indicative of the market as a whole, and is utterly unrelated to the Olympus mess.
Mr. Reeee
7 months ago |The original poster (YouDidntDidYou) mentioned “See Apple History”, so I pitched in. To mention Apple History and NOT mention Steve Jobs wouldn’t make a heckuva lot of sense, now would it?
You’re right on one count, in that I don’t really give much of a damn about business, but I DO know my Apple History, having been an exclusive Mac user since 1985.
Obviously, Apple and Olympus are two different stories, but there are parallels, which I won’t go into, except maybe confusing product lines and mismanagement in differing degrees on both sides. Apple found a savior and hopefully Olympus manages to straighten it all out and recover.
Boooo!
7 months ago |“Maybe Olympus will do something smart, like hire some photographers to consult.”
They should hire me. I could easily tell them how to fix their camera business.
1) Make a mirrorless E-7 (same size as E-3/5) with a PDAF sensor the quality of GH1 (minimum), bundle an adapter with it, make it have really good CAF
2) Make an E-50 DSLR with the old sensor; plan a mirrorless E-70
3) Make an E-650 DSLR, add video; plan a mirrorless E-670
4) Make the infamous 100mm macro
5) Make a 100-400 f/4 lens
6) Make a 25mm f/1.4 of their own
7) Invest in marketing for the wildlife, sports and macro crowd
8 ) Stop investing into PENs for a while
There you go, the imaging division is saved and you have that “one beautiful system” instead of tiny street snapshooter toys.
Mr. Reeee
7 months ago |+10 LOL Good one.
mahler
7 months ago |Yep. Exactly. Stop investing in PENs. But why only for a while?
alexander
7 months ago |Tom Hugan could help Olympus but if japanese mentality would take him? The world needs visionairs not marketing people.
YouDidntDidYou
7 months ago |this looks like the final truth http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/business/global/corporate-japan-rocked-by-scandal-at-olympus.html?_r=1&hpw and I still think Woodford was extremely wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
L.Coen
4 months ago |Well, if you go by history then you will have to say that Olympus will do what it does best…and that is to ADANDON their customers. The om, the pen-f , the 43, and soon to be the m43…unless another company swallows Olympus up and continues the pen name. Guess the only secure companies are Canon and Nikon, maybe Sony because of their money and maybe Samsung because they have even more money.It’s weird how Samsung NX might just out last Olympus m43. LOL
Oh and by the way don’t blame the whistle blower, Olympus has got no one to blame but their own greedy money groping execs.
John Griswell
7 months ago |I actually rushed out to buy the amazing 45mm right away in case the whole house of cards collapses. If I have $900 I would have grabbed the 12mm too!
MikeS
7 months ago |The 12mm is fantastic, though I have yet to grab the 45mm. Soon…
Ironically, it now seems as though the lens hoods are finally making their way into US stores (B&H has them on preorder).
Vivek
7 months ago |It does not bother me as much as the lack of real innovation from Olympus from the start (of mirrorless cams). When they did the blanket thing and unvailed an EP-1 with no EVF, that made a bigger impact. The “blendtech” advertisement pushed it over the top.
Bob Bowné
7 months ago |Maybe R&D was underfunded? I own the 12mm f/2.0 and I have to say..there is brilliance there. It is incredibly designed, well-built and intensely sharp. One of, if not the best MFT lenses that I own. ….but now I know why the lens was priced so high and the shade was $100 “EXTRA”! ( I pay $800 for a lens and you cannot even include a 50-cent lens pouch and a shade??? very telltale about what was going on with their finances)…all so a greedy few could have yet more vacation homes. There definitely is talent in the Olympus tech squadron, though!
Mr. Reeee
7 months ago |Agreed about the 12mm. And the 45mm, though I haven’t had the opportunity to use either one.
When you read about the level of quality and see sample images of both the 12mm and 45mm, you’ve really got to wonder WHY Olympus waited 3 years to produce the type of lenses they’ve historically produced. Lenses like those sell cameras!
Copule those with the best Panasonic lenses and some of the more exotic lenses and we’ve got a great system.
Bob Bowné
7 months ago |It really is a great “little” system…(I still use my DSLR…but damn..the form factor on MFT is soooo addictive). I own both the 12mm and the 45mm. The 12mm was made in Japan (the $100 metal shade was made in China..and contrary to all the reviews..the rectangular shade DOES reverse for storage…WELL DESIGNED lens), The 45mm and its shade were made in China. The 12mm is all metal with the very cool snap-ring manual focus, the 45mm is either all plastic,or metal and plastic (with a metal lens mount). From what I can see (I don’t see too many reviews actually saying exactly what materials the lens is made from…I think that the shiny surface fools everybody though). The glass is ALL GOOD. (actually for MFT it is better than good). Curious that Olympus made two similar looking lenses with equal glass quality and appeal and handled the materials and place of manufacture completely differently.
L.Coen
4 months ago |The biggest problem is customer confidence. Would you buy a car from a auto maker if you know the company might not make it the next year? The problem isn’t so much the cameras..it’s the fact that the camera and brand might not even exist in the near future.Olympus isn’t making gold,and there is almost little to no resale value on abandoned systems without a future. What olympus should do and the lot of the CSC makers is to finally make a damn camera that has an EVF starting as low as the lowest priced dslr if it wants to compete with it’s older dslr brothers. With out the EVF, the csc cameras are like over priced P&S cameras on steroids. The om-d is a way way overdue and at the 1400 price point, it will be only bought by hard core m43 fans..that’s it. If you can’t beat the dslr by features, you must beat them at price. The CSC cameras unfortunately still do neither at this time. The om-d does have some new features but is it enough to warrant a 1400 purchase from the typical customers? Sadly, no.
Boooo!
7 months ago |“I own the 12mm f/2.0 and I have to say..there is brilliance there.”
Yes, apart from having a huge uncorrected optical distortion and vignetting by an incredible -1.5EV on a sensor that struggles with dynamic range…
Bob Bowné
7 months ago |Hey Booooo!…go scare someone else…with your incorrect facts (and your facts are SCARY BAD). This reprinted from the SLRgear review of the lens:
Found here:
http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1444
“Shading (”Vignetting”)
There is some corner shading when the lens is set to ƒ/2 – the corners are 3/4 EV darker than the center at this setting – but at any other aperture, there is no corner shading to speak of.”
…AND Boooo! ..anyone with any experience would also know that it would be expected to have some minor vignetting with a wide lens like this at the GREAT maximum aperture of F/2.0.
Also…distortion is minimal. This quote from the same review from SLRgear:
“Distortion
Distortion is about what you’d expect for a 24mm-equivalent lens – +0.5% barrel distortion in the corners, and easily correctable in post-processing if you like your straight lines straight.”
…and IMO SLRgear’s reviews are one of the best on the web.
So…Boooooo to yoo!
The lens is exquisite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Boooo!
7 months ago |Here you go:
http://www.lenstip.com/310.1-Lens_review-Olympus_M.Zuiko_Digital_12_mm_f_2.0_ED_Introduction.html
SLRGear doesn’t test anything properly, and their test results are entirely useless.
The facts are 6% barrel distortion and -1.5EV vignetting. Both are higher than any other (m)4/3 lens ever made.
Bob Bowné
7 months ago |Question: If this SUCH A SHITTY LENS….why did you buy one? LOL!
I get incredible results from mine! Actually, beyond incredible in such a small package!
Bob Bowné
7 months ago |The problem is unethical, selfish, dishonest, GREEDY people. All over the world. Looks like we cleared some out here…hopefully they did not destroy the company..and cause all the employees to lose their livelihood as well. This could be a good thing if Olympus survives, for them to to do an “Apple” rebound…they will need the right leadership for that to happen.
..you are right..they need a plan moving forward and they need to communicate about it ..NOW! Hope it works out.
spanky
7 months ago |I doubt the vast majority of consumers, at least in the US, have even heard about Olympus, much less about this scandal. It’s not an issue.
Bob Bowné
7 months ago |Well…it is on the front page of the New York Times (paper and website) every day…and all the financial papers here in the US. Today there is a story on the front of the business section of the NYT.
MikeS
7 months ago |Unfortunately, I think that the vast majority of US consumers pay infinitely more attention to the results of Dancing with the Stars/The X-Factor than the New York Times and financial reporting in general
On the other hand, Olympus cameras are somewhat prevalent in the big box stores (Best Buy, etc), so consumers will probably be somewhat familiar with the name.
Bob Bowné
7 months ago |+1 ya got me there Mike…Dancin with the Stars…LOL!
sparedog
7 months ago |unfortunatley, i think alot more people have now heard of olympus for bad reasons as opposed to those who knew it for their cameras.
Gianluca
7 months ago |I think the same…hope some good FT5 soon!!!;)
twoomy
7 months ago |It’s a dark time for photography gear lovers. Sony, Nikon, and Canon all hit with delays because of the Japan and Thailand disasters. This could have been a golden opportunity for Panasonic and Olympus and M43 in general to get a bigger foothold in the market.
Olympus looked like it was making a great turn this year with the 20mm and 45mm declaring their commitment to high-end photography. But now they have IMPLODED.
Will Pany buy the photography remnants and make M43 truly its own? Who knows, but this will definitely affect people considering buying a camera brand. This corruption news is everywhere.
Bob Bowné
7 months ago |“It’s a dark time for photography gear lovers.”….what are you…. crazy!? There is sooooo much cool gear out right now, (AND LOTS MORE COMING !
) that it makes my head spin!!!!!! It is an AWESOME time right now for photography gear lovers.
Check out the Steve Huff video…scroll to the end…he has more cool cameras/systems sitting in his house right now than ever before (his living room is turning into B and H Photo… LOL…and he lines them all up and is laughing about how cool it is!!!!! I for one..agree with Steve…it is like a gear explosion right now!!!!!!!!!!!!…and neither Fuji or Canon have even checked in with their interchangeble-lens, mirrorless, camera systems yet. It should really get interesting after that happens!
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/11/09/cameras-cameras-everywhere-nikon-v1-1st-samples-more
twoomy
7 months ago |I was actually thinking more about the next generation gear that Nikon, Canon, and Sony have up their sleeves and all of the production and disaster problems. Oh yes it IS a dark time for Nikon with their pro-line factory in Japan knocked out and their semi-pro factories in Thailand underwater and Sony’s fab factory also underwater in Thailand.
Sure, I’m happy in the present shooing with a Nikon D300 and a Pany GH2. But these companies survive by making new gear and getting it to market.
Desirée
7 months ago |” There is indeed a perception from some potential buyers that you should avoid to buy an Olympus camera”
Isn’t there always? For some reason, Olympus is never taken seriously, and most people believe Nikon and Canon are the best brands. Needless to say, I disagree. I took a course recently and all the functions that Olympus has right there on the screen, Nikon and Canon users took ages to find in their menus. Also, Olympus isn’t as heavy and has a smaller grip, which is ideal for me as a woman with small hands.
The only thing I am afraid of is that if Olympus collapses, I’ll have to switch to another brand, and I really, really don’t want to! Until then. I’ll make sure to get a move on with buying the lenses that I still want to have (hey, if we all do that, it might give Oly a boost and stop it from collapsing!
)
Jón
7 months ago |If I were an engineer at Olympus, I would be worried and disappointed, even angry at my bosses. I’m sure Olympus camera sales are affected, and I’m sure Maitani is rolling in his grave…
Miroslav
7 months ago |@admin
Can you please ask your sources if this crisis is affecting Olympus R&D and therefore product announcements? I think a PEN announcement was rumored for January some time ago – and that is their usual launch time ( E-PL1 2010, E-PL2 2011 ).
I believe that is the thing that interests most people who visit this website, since we all have invested in 4/3 / m4/3 gear more or less.
Thanks
Esa Tuunanen
7 months ago |I doubt there’s much any R&D left for products to be sold in couple months because before you can ship cameras to shops you have to organize manufacturing of all the parts, get that going and assemble cameras and that won’t happen in week or two.
Miroslav
7 months ago |But you can always postpone the announcement, like many manufacturers did this spring…
Dummy00001
7 months ago |> Can you please ask your sources if this crisis is affecting Olympus R&D and therefore product announcements?
I’m no Admin
but can relate, as I had the experience working at two (European) companies through some very unnice times.
Two general problems: management and money.
Management in such situations is more busy with saving their own skin (saving their jobs, washing their past handlings) than with thinking about future product developments. Yes, there would be couple of managers keeping their cool – but the rest of management is often in state close to mental coma: talk much about how we have to survive the hard times, but when it comes to making decisions they back off trying to avoid needless risks in the time of crisis. Because any mistake in such times would be seen more negatively than usually. (Special note. There are also managers who try in such times to drag through projects for their stupid pet ideas – later only to resign and put the project on their CV to make it more attractive to next employers.)
Money is a problem too. Budget would be set in stone once, would be minimal (to save money; so that nobody can’t claim that they overspend) and would be left unchanged regardless. “Hiring freeze” is quite common too. That impacts R&D in a way that they literally cannot develop anything new as they can’t buy new equipment which is often required to adopt new tech. Due to hiring freeze they cannot hire new people with fresh skill set. (But some smart R&D managers (I had pleasure of knowing a few) are capable of coming up with some ingenious ideas how to work such budgetary problems around.)
And one more concrete problem. It is not only management which is in state of mental coma. Uncertainty about the future also gets into minds of normal workers. Rumor mill goes wild, speculations about coming reorganization take most of the day and most of the mental effort. That all in my experience has the effect of essentially stalling new developments. Few people can work effectively in such environment, even fewer can be relied upon.
In the end. Say that the Oly lives through the crisis and returns officially to normal operations in one year. In 2012, as R&D would be effectively stalled, they would release whatever their engineers had on their table in 2010-2011. That would be likely an OK year. But expect the 2013 to be an underwhelming year, because in 2012 Oly’s engineers would have on their tables much less new tech to play with, much less ideas to make into the new products.
(But this is a conjecture, based on presumption that new tech needs 1-2 year to go from prototype to a production sample. I do not know how fast the new tech turns around in the imaging market. But 1-2 years seems to be about right: e.g. OLED took ~2 years to be made into an EVF; SWD and HSM took about the same time to make it from a patent into a lense; nano-coating which IIRC first was mentioned in 2009 also took 2 years to appear in lenses this 2011 year.)
quiquelbola
7 months ago |You must remenber one thing….usully a CEO isn´t the company at all. The heart of oly photographic division is just the same that months and years ago. So the problem is easy to be solved, there are plenty of posible CEOs in the world looking for a job………:-)
Olympius
7 months ago |The current situation with Olympus Corporation is really, really, really bad. Their stock is on verge of being delisted, and once that happens– a matter now of “when” not “if” –it’s lights out for Olympus. They are not going to survive, as this scandal is too big in scope, has too many criminal elements, and the company is so far in debt as to be basically worthless.
This isn’t a matter of just clearing out the old BOD and a few executives and starting fresh, as the legal, financial, and even political ramifications of this 20 year cover up are beyond repair.
What will most likely happen, is the stock is delisted, then Olympus’s creditors, along with a worldwide host of law enforcement and lawyers, will divide up the carcass, and try to get what little money they can. The stockholders will be left with pretty much nothing.
The medical divisions and equipment will be sent off to be managed by some other corporations, but the camera division, from a financial and market standpoint, is literally worthless. They have been a drag on the company for sometime, with a tremendous loss of market share, and very little in regards to a product in demand. It will most likely be liquidated, and perhaps Sony or Nikon can get some new Japanese production facilities at rock bottom prices. I could see Panasonic possibly snatching up the patents and whatever intellectual property has some value.
There is no way on earth I would buy an Olympus camera product of any kind right now. At best, they only have months, not years, until they cease to exist. But if your looking for a new endoscope, I don’t think you’ll have to worry, as that part of the company will most certainly survive, though they might be a product of Hoya or Nikon rather than Olympus.
To say this is the Japanese equivalent of Enron is not that much of an exaggeration.
- Olympius
Esa Tuunanen
7 months ago |> but the camera division, from a financial and market standpoint, is literally worthless. They have been a drag on the company for sometime
Can we actually trust those numbers of imaging division having run at loss now that we know (at least) some of the things done by management?
What if those numbers have been just part of cover up for hiding what ever there’s been going on.
That’s the question behind why Olympus share price has been in free fall.
tofino
7 months ago |Why would Oly understate imaging division income? If anything, I would think it might have overstated it so that it could write off some of its bad investments without having things look as bad are they really are. I suspect that the income data for the divisions is accurate.
Olympius
7 months ago |+1 on tofino….if anything, the imaging division has been an even worse performer than what we know, and that’s already pretty bad to begin with.
It’s a real shame, as is seems the imaging division was finally getting a little bit of traction in the past year, but that little bit isn’t anywhere near enough to reverse the losses, both financially and via market share, of that division.
The lastest quote, as if this posting, is Olympus stock is selling at 484 JPY….about $6.00 USD, and if the stock isn’t delisted soon, it could quite easily go down to zero. No one wants to be left holding onto a stock that will most certainly be worthless before the year is over. Too much debt– whatever is left of Olympus in 2012 will almost certainly all go to the creditors. The stock won’t be worth the paper it’s printed on, and the only recourse for the stockholders will be lawsuits, which are already being filed as of this posting.
The market has pretty much already written off Olympus, and for good reason.
- Olympius
seller
7 months ago |i sold my all my digital olympus gear 2 weeks ago, i was heavily invested in the system, i’m glad it’s gone, took me too long… the crap will be completely worthless soon…
Kylberg
7 months ago |The brand name is now damaged. Most likely there is no strategic work in the company. R&D people are still there and are not the problem. The problem at Olympus is strategy and marketing. The former is “lost in the market landscape” and the later limited to bragging. Compare with Nikon marketing of the 1 system – it sells even if it is not really competitive.
There are similarities Olympus – SAAB; Everybody loves the brand but few buy the products. In the SAAB case nothing produced last half year but no bancrupcy yet. Olympus is well off in comparison!
tofino
7 months ago |Oly is also likely to have difficulty obtaining parts from its suppliers who I’m sure will now demand cash up front. Likewise, distributors and retailers will not pay in advance for products that they may not be able to sell.
Kman
7 months ago |Next time any of you want to invest in a company’s product, let me know, and I’ll give you advice so that you can do the opposite.
I’ve owned
3 SAABs
Purchased a Toyota 6 month before all of the recall’s
4 Contax cameras, with more than $10,000 worth of lenses
Olympus 4/3rds E3′s and ALL of their f2 lenses
I also just ordered Kenmore appliances, but am nervous that Sears/kmart will fold due to mis-management. Damn…
Woe is me…
Oh brother, now is
tofino
7 months ago |This is more than just a “bad moment”.
I think only fan boys care about comments made by other brands fan boys.
rip
7 months ago |konica – minolta – olympus
all have one thing in common, they were probably the most unconventional, innovators and most attractive niche brands..
all have one thing in common, they are in oblivion…
Neonart
7 months ago |Just ordered an EP3/17mm kit, so it hasn’t affected my decision.
If Oly blows up tomorrow it’ll still take photos.
I get compliments of the stuff I’ve taken with the E5 and EPL1, so the EP3 should be just as good and even more fun.
Financial scandals don’t change that.
bai
7 months ago |even if there is no hit on sales volume, the sale price and value has went down significantly. I just sold my epl2 which i owned for 5mth, i already have hard time finding a buyer and the news just made me have to lower the price further down to finally get rid of it yesterday.
Eric
7 months ago |Thankfully for Olympus they have a partner in Panasonic that is stable. If Panasonic didn’t share the same lens mount there is no way I’d consider an Olympus camera at the moment (and I love Olympus cameras). But since they do have Panasonic worst case scenario is m4/3′s will live on through them very similar to how the K-Mount is now only used by Pentax when once a number of companies used it.
mahler
7 months ago |No, not thankfully for Olympus. The m4/3 mount and its users can be thankful that in this case, there is a strong second partner. The survival of the company, with its bad conduct of business, is not as important as the survival of the m4/3 camera system.
The trouble of Olympus may not only affect the sales of their product, but the sales of m4/3 products in general. This is the real issue.
Raist3d
7 months ago |Panasonic is not charity nor a non profit organization. Partnerships in business exist as long as it benefits both.
mahler
7 months ago |It is funny that so many people here still try to see good things with this company. We should recognize that the dirty practices were conducted for decades, not just for a short time. So, if Olympus really tumbles, all the bright engineers should feel deceived and the customers as well.
The notion that Panasonic is the big electronic giant, and Olympus the photographic manufacturer, who fight with its nice products against windmills, is essentially void. The failure of 4/3 may have its roots also in the management attitude, and the stubbornness of the PEN-only strategy, could have the same reason.
To me Olympus has lost all credibility and I can understand customers, who avoid their products now, because the company’s and their products perspective were never so uncertain as they are now.
George
7 months ago |for the 1001th time
SELL ALL OF YOUR OLY GEAR BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE
SELL ALL OF YOUR OLY GEAR BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE
SELL ALL OF YOUR OLY GEAR BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE
SELL ALL OF YOUR OLY GEAR BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE
Tobias W.
7 months ago |Nonsense. Unless your intention with this silly shout is to drive down the prizes so you can pick up nice gear cheap for yourself. In that case, carry on. I’m with you.
Nonsense aside, even if the shit has hit the fan at Olympus, the camera division is worth enough to be bought by someone like Panasonic or Fuji. It might actually be to the benefit of Olympus cameras. Getting rid of all the worthless compacts, maybe keep the µTough line and build on top of Four Thirds and Micro Four Thirds.
There are lots of companies with money on their hand and ambitions in the photographic industry like GE who would love to take over the potential at Olympus.
bruce
7 months ago |Yeah,
SELL ALL OF YOUR TOPCON GEAR BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE
SELL ALL OF YOUR PLAUBEL GEAR BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE
etc…
Carl
7 months ago |Topcon ;_;
Patric
7 months ago |Quote from NYT
“It is likely that other companies will be suspected of similar behavior. “It will be hard to prove to foreign investors that Olympus is the only one,” Mr. Yamada said.”
Sell all your Japanese made gear??
Miroslav
7 months ago |“SELL ALL OF YOUR OLY GEAR BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE”
Don’t worry, I’ve sold all the endoscopes I’ve had the moment Woodford was fired, voice recorders will be on e-bay in a couple of days and I’ve thrown my Tough cameras in the nearby lake, so if someone wants them, they’re there, probably still operational.
Miroslav
7 months ago |“SELL ALL OF YOUR OLY GEAR BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE”
Pentax was under Hoya, now it’s owned by Ricoh, but still there. Motorola mobility was bought by Google, but they haven’t burned down the factory. Konica Minolta was taken over by Sony and old lenses can be used even on newest SLT cameras. SAAB will have Chinese owners soon, Volvo has for some time, but the production remains in Sweden and the owners of the cars are supported by spare parts. Nobody closed their businesses. If Olympus camera division is sold, it will continue to exist, maybe produced under some other brand, but current lenses will work on Panasonic cameras as well. And current bodies will still be able to use Panasonic / Cosina / Samyang / SLR Magic and many third party lenses via adapters.
Chill man, the world will not end if Olympus goes bankrupt, it will end on 21/12/2012. So sell all your stuff and make a spaceship before it’s too late. Just joking, of course
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Stravinsky
7 months ago |I am keeping my m43 gear, but my early Xmas present arrives tomorrow : Fuji X10!
Oitszek
7 months ago |Fourthirds “LOL”
Z
7 months ago |Olympus will not just collapse, more likely:
- External auditors will figure out what happened (kind of)
- Possibly some people will go to jail
- The actual debt and cash flow situation will be figured out
- *IF* the debt is too large, Olympus will need to sell one or more of its branches or resources (medical, industrial, imaging) to raise capital.
- Bankruptcy will not change any of the above, it will just provide protection if Olympus cannot pay its loans (we don’t know that yet)
If the camera/imaging operation is sold, unless it is SERIOUSLY unprofitable, it will very likely keep going in one form or another.
David Mantripp
7 months ago |Well, the catastrophic fall in market value will make it impossible for Olympus to borrow, which unless they have deep reserves (seems unlikely) will hit their liquidity and their output. I imagine their contractor workforce, if they have one, is being shown the door. Even if the skills in all fields (well, maybe excluding marketing) in the imaging division are as good as ever, if they are starved of funds they will not be able to fund projects, and this will lead to stagnation at best. Only way out is to sacrifice part of the company to breathe life back into the remainder. The imaging divisions best hope might be that it is too hard to sell
In the meantime, I don’t see how this affects my photography. I don’t see any better alternative for my own needs than Olympus, at least not one I can afford, and since in any case camera gear is hardly an investment, in most cases, I can’t see what I’d gain by selling it…..
Robbi
7 months ago |the fall of Olympus is just probably restricted to warranty, repairing issues…otherwise in my opinion, their cameras despite manufactured in China, are very well built and very durable.
Jimson
7 months ago |Yeah, warranty and repair issues might be a real concern. I guess I should send one of my E-3s in to have the LCD fixed pronto.
I’m a little worried about if and when the UW housing for my new E-PM1 will actually ship. The housing is the primary reason I purchased the camera, and shipment to dealers has been repeatedly delayed. When I placed my order I was told to expect the housing to ship in early November. Now the dealer is telling me they hope to receive stock by the end of December or early January. I hope Oly manages to remain viable, but if they do implode I hope they manage to get my housing out first…
Thom Hogan
7 months ago |There are three issues Olympus would be dealing with now:
1. In Japan, people tend to shun products associated with scandal like this. The problem is that Olympus had its biggest success in home market sales of the Pen cameras. We have no hard numbers yet, but I’d think that there should be a clear lower sales number in Japan soon. If the sales lower by enough, this triggers downstream manufacturing and parts order changes as they try to slow things down.
2. Olympus cannot raise money now. Anything that turns cash flow negative is going to be a very huge problem for them. See #1.
3. Decision making is all but stalled. You can’t make decisions until things resolve up top. You can continue to do R&D and work on projects in progress, but the decisions needed to move them from R&D to products in production will be held up. The good news for Olympus is that they just delivered their latest round of product and wouldn’t be expected to have significant new product until next year at the earliest. But still, delays in decision making now will turn into delays in production later.
Zaph
7 months ago |When does that mean the new lens cap for the XZ-1 will come out?
stuff´s going down
7 months ago |buy up as many olympus cameras as you can, they´ll be collectors items next year when the company folds.
dumbo
7 months ago |43 Rumors might as well change it´s name to Panasonic Rumors. It seems that Olympus is sadly exiting the building
ILO
7 months ago |May Kodak buy Olympus (just kidding)? Kodak selling patents, Olympus can do the same.
Kaiser Soze
7 months ago |Olympus is on fire! Someone sell me their 35-100 for $800!
mmamamia
7 months ago |Olympus is just dying. Hello alpha or nikon but not pentax.
Raist3d
7 months ago |Admin actually yes, of course this affects their sales. And their endoscope business even.
Maczon
7 months ago |I would not buy a olympus camera this time. Maybe lenses but nothing more.
faceman
7 months ago |Woodford was just another white guy starting problems in Asia. From America using military force to open Japan’s borders, to the British and the Opium Wars, to the French pissing in Indochina…the list goes on.
Brod1er
7 months ago |Your comment is blatantly racist. Be very ashamed.
Based on the reporting, it seems the problem started 20 years ago when Olympus management started disguising losses with accounting fixes. This has nothing to do with skin colour, but basic poor management and allegedly fraud.
Ojojo
7 months ago |Have you never heard of the “sceptic tank effect?” – all the big chunks rise to the top!
rocky
7 months ago |Just bought my E5 while the s… was hitting the fan at Oly. Don’t care. It’s a great camera that takes amazing pics. BTW: If I had a dollar every-time someone uses in this forum the words fanboy or troll I’d be a millionaire. Grow up people!
Anonymous
6 months ago |i hate to tell this but this olympus type really messing with me…it cannot be switch on again..