Next GH3 versus E-M5 comparison at ePhotozine.

Image courtesy: ePhotozine.
ePhotozine posted a complete JPG ISO comparison between the E-M5 and the new GH3. Some examples:
ISO 200: E-M5 vs GH3
ISO 1600: E-M5 vs GH3
ISO 6400: E-M5 vs GH3
Take your time to analyze the results and than let us know:
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E-M5 at Amazon, Adorama, B&H, Jessops, Amazon UK, Amazon Germany, Amazon France, Amazon Japan and Digitalrev.
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E-M5 Case:
There is the official CS-36FBC Olympus case. A leather half case from Hong Kong. A full leather case with strap from Cina. Than we have half cases from two well known producers, Zelenpol, Kaza and Gariz.
E-M5 Batteries, and other things:
The Olympus GS-4 strap and the DSTE E-M5 batteries you have to use with an extra charger. There is an E-M5 car charger a new E-M5 LCD screen and a Front Cover+ Top Panel.




Jørgen
8 months ago |To me these comparisons are incomprehensible. Click on one image…try to remember it. Click on the other and compare it with your memory. Doesn’t work for me. Unless I am overlooking something. I need tow pcis side by side. And well: I am not interested in JPGs.
In most if not all reviews I see JPGS and only JPGS and sometimes truely useless shots. I can only compare if there are sensible RAW shots.
blah
8 months ago |That’s why you open them both in separate tabs first and swap between them.
(Hover mouse over tabbar and use scrolling wheel, or ctrl+tab/ctrl+shift+tab, or ctrl+number if you have less than 10 tabs..)
Simple!
Jørgen
8 months ago |yeah, found that out later too. Still the difference in colour can be attributed to a different JPEG engine. And for me, the RAW argument is valid. Otoh I do understand that not too many programms will support the GH3, so it is somewhat difficult and these preproduction cams won’t have SIlkypix with them I guess..
Duarte Bruno
8 months ago |I couldn’t agree more.
It’s pathetic that almost 1,000 people voted based by comparing a ZERO texture snap, taken with DIFFERENT lenses, at DIFFERENT nominal ISO’s and processed by DIFFERENT JPEG engines.
These are probably the same kind of people that will look from the top of a DxOMark score and will solemnly proclaim that camera A is 14,5% better than Camera B.
This comparison doesn’t tell us SH|T.
JimD
8 months ago |See if there is no label people don’t know what took it.
OllieS
8 months ago |Get off your high horse, it says at first glance. I’ll happily change my mind as and when better comparisons come available.
jake
8 months ago |does not tell how good their IQ is but actually it does show you what kind of feature set the GH3 got , and I think GH3 is the best mirrorless camera ever made because of its more professional or at least prosumer feature set.
but I guess as for image quality, we do not know much about it yet.
if what you only care about is image quality in RAW , just get the EPL5 , it is the current king in mirrorless or at least in MFT land.
Duarte Bruno
8 months ago |I couldn’t agree more.
It’s amazing how 1,000 people look at a ZERO texture snap, taken by DIFFERENT lenses, at DIFFERENT real measure ISOs, processed by DIFFERENT JPEG engines and believe they can say zit about IQ.
These are probably the same people who will look from the top of a DxOMark final score and say that camera A is 15.3% better than camera B.
It’s really pathetic and this test doesn’t tell SH|T.
digifan
8 months ago |Well you probably can’t read because it’s asked to vote for a look “AT FIRSTY GLANCE”.
So you are pathetic taking this way too seriously.
narutogrey
8 months ago |Why don’t you just put 2 windows next to each other and open both pictures?
JimD
8 months ago |Only interested in RAW!
What do you do with the RAW files? put them on some media and bury them?
Seems the truth is people cannot tell what cameras produced what unless it has a label on it.
Al Jimenez
8 months ago |EM-5 is clearly superior, especially at ISO 6400. However, I have read that the EM-5 “cheats” on ISO; that is, the setting is really lower ISO. So when EM-5 says ISO 6400 it is really much lower ISO. How much is the difference due to this, and to the GH3 that are available are not yet final firmware.
krait
8 months ago |This may come as a surprise, but it is possible to actually open *two* browser windows side by side so that you can compare the images without remembering. And with two images each more than 4000 pixels across its understandable that they don’t put them side by side on one web page.
And yes, there are those of us who actually care about OOC jpeg quality. It doesn’t mean that RAW is uninteresting but this particular test chose to compare jpeg. Maybe you should just wait till someone makes a raw comparison instead of telling the world how incomprehensible this is to you?
Chris
8 months ago |That comparison is frickin’ stupid. First of all, they don’t tell us what lenses they are using. To be fair they would pretty much have to use the same legacy lens and adapter to compare the camera’s.
If they are using the lenses stated in the video (don’t even get me started on that test, why did they have IS on if they aren’t hand-holding the camera’s), those are two lenses with completely different qualities AND they are both Panasonic lenses. There is a very good chance the GH3 is doing software corrections with the Panasonic lens that the EM5 is just not programmed to do (the chromatic aberration seen in the Olympus image that is non-existant in the Panasonic image, for instance).
Apples to apples or I (and none of you) can fairly judge!
JimD
8 months ago |Seems that people can’t tell the difference between apples and oranges unless they are labelled. Referring to different lenses is a cop out for not seeing what is happening. Some apples are small and gnarled some oranges are big and dry. Same with pictures.
Reality is unless it is cabled you can’t tell what took what, can you?
Anonymous
8 months ago |How would I? I have never seen an image from the GH3 before. How would you expect me to tell where it was from unless it was labelled?
Really, I think I understand what you’re trying to say but you’re saying it completely wrong.
ronnbot
8 months ago |E-M5 doesn’t cheat ISO: http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2012/09/why-iso-isnt-iso.html
bousozoku
8 months ago |Sure, it isn’t cheating. It’s just inaccurately favourable.
Adam
8 months ago |You can check the exif info. E-M5 image is shot at f/7.1 and 1/160s. GH-3 image is shot at f/5.6 and 1/400s. Both “ISO 6400″. Difference in aperture is 2/3 EV and in shutter speed 1&1/3 EV so the total difference in exposure is 2/3 EV. I think that makes the real sensitivity of E-M5 lower than of GH-3. Assuming the light conditions were constant, of course.
Marcelo Guarini
8 months ago |To bad they didn’t use the same lens on both cameras. Clearly the lens on the EM5 has much more CA. These non rigorous test are just like organic junk.
TTTulio
8 months ago |It would be better to do it blind and just call them camera A and camera B.
JimD
8 months ago |Yes agree. But then there is a problem that people who are spouting off about this or that camera and RAW or jpep would not have a clue which shots belonged to which camera.
If you had 3 cameras and 4 photographers taking 4 shots each in different locations with the same camera and their choice of lens and displayed them as A to L with each being a photographers entry.
That would cause utter confusion. But would be the most real test of all.
TheDan
8 months ago |Isn’t this like comparing apples and oranges? I’m pretty sure the focus of the GH3 is the video capability.
BLT
8 months ago |I don’t see why they couldn’t have evened the white balance between the two cameras. The off-white of the panasonic photos doesn’t help things.
All I really notice is how much more i prefer the noise form the olympus camera.
ozymandias
8 months ago |Yeah the oly has better noise control, and yes again, why the hell did they try to match the white balance. I use a GH2 and I can assure anyone wondering that Panny does not think a manilla folder is white.
Mark James
8 months ago |The WB being way off on the GH3 doesn’t help, but they look very close to me.
You can open each in a different window, enlarge the same section and click back and forth to compare.
Peet
8 months ago |I love apples and oranges! And the topping is, that both kameras are beautiful AND different! If you make video, you have to carry the GH3, but if you go outdoor for many days, you can take the smalest, most beautiful digital-kamera ever to shoot extrem high quality pictures.
2012 is a great year for all of us!
Voldenuit
8 months ago |Where’s the button for ‘Not enough information to determine’? Until the GH3 gets widespread RAW handler support (and RAWs with production firmware circulate), it is very hard to separate detail and noise characteristics from NR algorithms and JPEG engines.
Dave
8 months ago |White balance on the Panny is awful (so shoot raw I guess). They are close at ISO 200, then the EM-5 effortlessly pulls away at 3200 and is out of sight at 6400.
Jorgen, open them in separate browser windows, and then put those windows side by side.
come on pana
8 months ago |GH3 is more detailed
http://personal-view.com/talks/uploads/thumbnails/FileUpload/20/f4b2bcf5537d5c2ea6f56ae2632904.png
come on pana
8 months ago |Sorry toke the item’s picture link ^^’
http://personal-view.com/talks/uploads/FileUpload/20/f4b2bcf5537d5c2ea6f56ae2632904.png
DTC
8 months ago |Quite disappointed with the results. Was hoping the stills would be on par with the OMD, but this is clearly not the case. For the longest time the reds from Panasonic’s sensors would have this orange hue. It looks like this is still an issue.
avds
8 months ago |Olympus shows a bit better noise floor. Nothing critical but this comparison is so sadly limited and flawed.
ken
8 months ago |My money goes to GH3. I want a well-rounded camera for everything(still, video, wifi for smartphones and tablets, timelapse(fav), heat dispersion, controls, multi-aspect sensor,power input to replace the battery using dc couplers, and etc). OMD is an awesome camera for STILL ONLY, but video? mehh. Dont get me wrong, Im not a fan of Oly or Panny, my previous camera was a canon s100 and a gopro hero2. In my opinion, As an undergraduate student GH3 is the “New Generation Camera”. The blooming of tablets and smartphones are parallel to the wifi feature of this camera.
jules
8 months ago |At ISO 6400, the Olympus is cleaner at first glance. Then I looked closely and I find the letters to be softer. I suspect is has more to do with more aggressive noise reduction rather than superior sensor.
For out of the body jpegs, that may be a lesser evil. That said, I’d like to see the comparison between RAW files before jumping to conclusions.
Falk Kuebler
8 months ago |“At ISO 6400, the Olympus is cleaner at first glance. Then I looked closely and I find the letters to be softer”
Very good observation, Jules. When looking closely I find the difference in letter sharpness even stunning, and I’m not convinced that it’s just some sort of artefacting.
But we need to wait for the final devices and a test on dpreview.
anonymous
8 months ago |There’s clearly ISO cheat on the OM-D. Look at their shutter speed.
Old Alaskan
8 months ago |Olympus: 1/160 s, f/7.1 at iso 6400
Panasonic: 1/400 s, f/5.6 at iso 6400
That means that for this same exposure (I’m assuming the lighting is the same for both shots), Panasonic is 1 stop faster than Olympus. Granted, this is for a low dynamic range shot, but, many pictures are. I conclude that for the same shutter speed and f stop, Olympus would have to shoot at iso 12800 while Panasonic could use iso 6400.
Comparing the results of the Panasonic at iso 6400 with the Olympus at iso 12800 is very favorable to the Panasonic.
For a high dynamic range shot, the extra top end of the Olympus could change this equation to be more favorable to the Olympus.
avds
8 months ago |Good catch! Though it’s not a whole single ev stop of difference, it’s still sizable and should probably have been visible to the naked eye if nominal ISO levels were comparable.
Old Alaskan
8 months ago |You’re right. It’s not a one stop difference. I made a math error. It’s 2/3 stops.
At iso 1600 and slower the difference is more like 1/2 stop.
With these targets it’s not easy to evaluate how much difference 2/3 to 1/2 stops would make. It probably gives the edge to Panasonic though. What I love is that we can be discussing affordable cameras that can take fantastic pictures at iso levels undreamed of just a few years ago. Pick the one that suits you and enjoy it!
JimD
8 months ago |Yes best way of looking at it. totally agree.
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8 months ago |Aside from the inferior WB of the GH3, to me it seems that its shots are underexposed by 1/3 of a stop or so, which leverages the exposure between both of them (more or less). As with all tests, this one is also flawed. Frankly, I do not expect that huge difference between them, although there might be some. No whole stop or two however..
sadwitch
8 months ago |Of course its different. Its F7.1 vs F5.6 hence the shuttle is slower on the E-M5 no?
Mattschia
8 months ago |Expose vulue are similar, no “cheats” from olympus.. from the exif you can easily see that at 1600ISO E-M5 was 1/60 f6 and GH3 1/100 f5.6 but from a quick comparison in Lightroom (after setting both to the same WB) i can tell GH3 is underexposed by -0.3EV
BTW both looks very similar in noise, at least till 1600ISO.. GH3 has much worse noise reduction or JPEG engine and ISO3200 shots are ruined so you can’t compare them. We sould wait for RAW but it looks that there is no bug improvement in photo quality over EM-5, i’m disappointed but it was prevedible.
If you are really interested you could just download the photos and compare them with lightroom or many other programs.. it’s not difficult.
ISO200: http://i46.tinypic.com/30tqnm1.png
ISO1600: http://i46.tinypic.com/s6rmgy.png
yossarian
8 months ago |they are both brilliant cameras, for different users. I think that people that like OMD for its smaller size, design etc. will not like GH3…if you looking for something to shoot video with I think that bigger size is not disadvantage.
What both cameras are leaking is faster shooter speed because 1/4000 in cameras that cost more than 1k euros is real shame
Anonymous
8 months ago |Expose vulue are similar, no “cheats” from olympus.. from the exif you can easily see that at 1600ISO E-M5 was 1/60 f6 and GH3 1/100 f5.6 but from a quick comparison in Lightroom (after setting both to the same WB) i can tell GH3 is underexposed by -0.3EV
BTW both looks very similar in noise, at least till 1600ISO.. GH3 has much worse noise reduction or JPEG engine and ISO3200 shots are ruined so you can’t compare them. We sould wait for RAW but it looks that there is no bug improvement in photo quality over EM-5, i’m disappointed but it was prevedible.
If you are really interested you could just download the photos and compare them with lightroom or many other programs.. it’s not difficult.
ISO200: http://i46.tinypic.com/30tqnm1.png
ISO1600: http://i46.tinypic.com/s6rmgy.png
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8 months ago |exactly my opinion, thanx for the nice job.
Bill Oriani
8 months ago |If this test is for real then everything that was said and reported upon during Photokina was B.S. Something’s not quite right.
OneEyed
8 months ago |While it’s unfair and probably unproductive to compare production images with pre-release firmware images, the GH3 6400 ISO remiinds me why I’m not in love with my GH2 stills – the generally flat colours and the sometimes dodgy white balance make images far less likeable than a point & shoot, according to my wife, and I often have to agree.
I’ll likely upgrade to a GH3 anyways, because I shoot video, I want 1080p60 and I already have the lenses. But it’d be nice if Panasonic could improve the still quality for their flagship camera. It ain’t no 5Dmk2/3….. or even a T4i…. when it comes to stills.
jr.hargrove
8 months ago |All three Oly images are softer at the edges and have less noise than their analogous Pana images. Looks to me like the Oly jpeg engine does more noise reduction relative to the sharpening.
Actually, I think both are amazing technological feats and could be happy with either one.
richard
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Marilyn
8 months ago |GH3 is purely video
Em5 is a great picture camera
Anonymous
8 months ago |“Picture Camera”. LOL!
jules
8 months ago |Who decided that?
thethirdcoast
8 months ago |The GH3 looks far sharper at high ISO, but I’m not understanding the obvious WB variation.
One disappointing thing about the GH3 is the 614k dot screen. It’s hard to take this camera seriously as a semi-pro device with such a low-res screen. My Nikon D5100 has an articulated 3″, 921k dot screen for less than half the price. C’mon Panasonic!
Chris
8 months ago |Are we looking at the same images? Bring the ISO 6400 ones up side by side, click to zoom in to 100%, the GH3 image looks like a mud-puddle and the EM5 image looks spectacular.
MdB
8 months ago |The GH3 uses an OLED display. Image quality should be about the same in resolution, but the panny will likely be brighter, have higher contrast ratio and be more power efficient than the one in your D5100. 921k LCDs are roughy the same res as 614k OLEDs. Personally I prefer LCDs for some reason, but there is no significant resolution drop with this panel.
james70094
8 months ago |One thing I noticed is that the Olympus image is stated to be at 350dpi, while Panasonic is at 180dpi. I also believe the off white balance is skewing the result. Overall, I like the Olympus colors better and the higher dpi fits for me. And it is not only Oly that cheats on the ISO, I have heard that about several different brands.
Cellardoor
8 months ago |Dpi are just a information for printing.
You can change the dpi of any picture to anything as long as you don´t change pixels. So that point is pointless
Bob. B.
8 months ago |I am still totally amazed when I see the size difference in these two cameras. Totally amazed!
That coupled with the performance comparison makes the OM the most attractive camera for this photographer. MFT is ALL about size…small size that is.
Anonymous
8 months ago |Expose vulue are similar, no “cheats” from olympus.. from the exif you can easily see that at 1600ISO E-M5 was 1/60 f6 and GH3 1/100 f5.6 but from a quick comparison in Lightroom (after setting both to the same WB) i can tell GH3 is underexposed by -0.3EV
BTW both looks very similar in noise, at least till 1600ISO.. GH3 has much worse noise reduction or JPEG engine and ISO3200 shots are ruined so you can’t compare them. We sould wait for RAW but it looks that there is no bug improvement in photo quality over EM-5, i’m disappointed but it was prevedible.
If you are really interested you could just download the photos and compare them with lightroom or many other programs.. it’s not difficult.
avds
8 months ago |f/6 @1/60 is more than 1/2 stop brighter than f/5.6 @ 1/100 actually, so exposures are not similar.
MattSchia
8 months ago |as i wrote gh3 files are underexposed of -0.3EV, i did a visual comparison after setting both files to the same WB and it’s obvious.. so the total difference is less than 1/3 stop.. exposures are similar
bbking
8 months ago |So, are you @Anonymous or @MattSchia ??
MattSchia
8 months ago |i just forgot to fill the name form, it happens often.. i think it’s more important what is said than who is saying it, don’t you?
JimD
8 months ago |A bit like look at the pictures not at the microscopic analysis of the sensor, which can never be replicated in actual use by anyone anyway so is more or less irrelevant.
avds
8 months ago |Ah, I see what you meant! Thanks for pointing out.
Anonymous
8 months ago |ISO200: http://i46.tinypic.com/30tqnm1.png
ISO1600: http://i46.tinypic.com/s6rmgy.png
OASYS
8 months ago |http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Compare-Camera-Sensors/Compare-cameras-side-by-side/(appareil1)/816|0/(brand)/Panasonic/(appareil2)/793|0/(brand2)/Olympus/(appareil3)/737|0/(brand3)/Sony
Check this out. You will find out the ISO is not a matter in the real life.
Bob B.
8 months ago |Please do not back up anything with DXO. They are not consistent with their facts.
Duarte Bruno
8 months ago |It’s amazing how 1,000 people look at a ZERO texture snap, taken by DIFFERENT lenses, at DIFFERENT real measure ISOs, processed by DIFFERENT JPEG engines and believe they can say zit about IQ.
These are probably the same people who will look from the top of a DxOMark final score and say that camera A is 15.3% better than camera B.
It’s really pathetic and this test doesn’t tell SH|T.
JimD
8 months ago |See if there is no label people don’t know what took it. If labels fell off all the images shown here and there was no identification you would not know who or what took it and have to judge it on its quality as an individual shot. That would of course not be a good idea as we all know this camera is better than that camera and this lens is better than that lens. OR DO WE. I don’t think so.
stimmer
8 months ago |Pretty obvious it’s still a Panasonic sensor in the GH3. Splotchy at high iso and colors are not good. Not sure why they can’t fix the white balance on these samples and use the same lens though.
I’m sure it will be a great video camera though. But then the GH2 is already that.
And people, quit whining about ISO cheating. It’s just a matter of exposure settings with the camera.
DXO will bear out the noise and DR levels soon enough. Expect G5 levels or slightly better.
Bob B.
8 months ago |What REALLY amazes me is the size difference in the two cameras. MFT is ALL about small size…if you miss that, I really feel that you have missed the MFT boat. I am really happy that I own and use an OM-D. Whith these tech results for a still photographer it really is no contest. Go Oly!
Heat Legend
8 months ago |The tester will have set both cameras to AWB and let them pick their own WB for the shot…. Which would indicate that the GH3′s AWB isn’t excellent.
I checked the exif for both the iso 200 samples.Both were shot on Auto white balance, however there re slight variations in settings.
GH3
Exposure Time 1/13 sec
F-Number f/5.6
Exposure Program Aperture Priority
ISO Speed Rating 200
Exposure Bias 0 EV
Color Space Information sRGB
Exposure Mode Auto
White Balance Auto
Scene Capture Type Standard
Gain Control Low Gain Up
Contrast Normal
Saturation Normal
Sharpness Normal
EM5
Exposure Time 1/8 sec
F-Number f/6.0
Exposure Program Normal Program
ISO Speed Rating 200
Exposure Bias 0 EV
Color Space Information sRGB
Exposure Mode Auto
White Balance Auto
Scene Capture Type Standard
Gain Control None
Contrast Normal
Saturation Normal
Sharpness Normal
Ed
8 months ago |I think the problem here is that most of us would rather have both, but can’t?
st3v4nt
8 months ago |+1
Agree
But I probably choose GH-2 if they sell it for bargain.
Bob B.
8 months ago |OK….the thing that really strikes me to be AMAZING is the difference in size of these two cameras! MFT is ALL about small size and if you missed that, your ship did not sail. I shoot stills and own an OM-D, so Panasonic I thank you for making the GH-3. The OM even with the top half of the battery grip is a much more nimble piece of machinery…..With this tech appraisal you have really allowed me to appreciate the camera that I own. How often does that happen!?
Bob
8 months ago |Oh, Pleeze!
You’re asking people to compare jpegs from a pre-production camera with a production camera, with no idea what jpeg settings were used on either one?
Can there be a better definition of meaningless?
Ed
8 months ago |Our posts?
caver3d
8 months ago |Now, that’s funny.
David
8 months ago |+1
Sarek
8 months ago |+1
zebarnabe
8 months ago |Even though they are not exactly comparable from those shots, E-M5 is clearly superior, yellow stains on the Panny are still there, I had my hopes, I guess it will be tweaked G5 sensor.
About ISO and DXOMark: It is true that some cameras ‘lie’ about ISO in the sense that you have to use an higher ISO to obtain a comparable exposure, however a comparable exposure requires similar dynamic range among other proprieties. DXOMark measures ISO by ‘flooding’ the sensor, the more light it takes to flood the less sensitive it is, right? well, if you consider a camera with an huge dynamic range it might require lots of light to get flooded thus giving a skewed value as it could take the photo with the same exposure before it got flooded and just normalize it to the upper bound.
Sensors with big ‘bucket’ photosites get lower scores for ISO, even though they can measure light more accurately and with better SNR.
Real ISO is something very tricky to define as dynamic range and other proprieties vary when you change the ISO (giving it a bit of egg-chicken problem)
Maybe a way would be to measure the top by flooding and a minimum by defining an acceptable SNR for shadow detail (measuring DR with absolute values), then put the correct exposure somewhere in the middle and compare the cameras using that, even then, with DR discrepancies, things wouldn’t be very accurate either.
Oh well… I’m just babbling about it, GH3 is not looking bright (no pun intended) for stills, though it doesn’t mean it is looking bad. Panny still had to come with a proper sensor to kill that intrusive yellow noise, it got better but it is still there :<
JimD
8 months ago |This was posted a couple of days ago. It is a real explanation of ISO and should be compulsory reading for all here.
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2012/09/why-iso-isnt-iso.html
This explains the start point and also shows how there can be variations.
Lovely photographer
8 months ago |GH3 is too big for me. It’s quite bulky. I’d like to see something like GX1 with viewfinder.
agachart
8 months ago |i think not ISO test but White Balance is so bad,White or Brown.???
Anonymous
8 months ago |People keep saying you can’t compare because the GH3 is pre-production, but did anyone actually read the text from the test? The first few words…
“We now have a final version of the new Panasonic Lumix GH3″
I’m no literary expert, but I think that means its not pre-prod.
JimD
8 months ago |This is because there are so many experts here who only see what they want to see. That goes for the images as well, as long as they are associated with a camera lable.
chris
8 months ago |People keep saying you can’t compare because the GH3 is pre-production, but did anyone actually read the text from the test? The first few words…
“We now have a final version of the new Panasonic Lumix GH3″
I’m no literary expert, but I think that means its not pre-prod.
Renato S.
8 months ago |Panasonic is known for very good RAW files and Olympus for an awesome JPEG Engine.
And just to remind the very stupid people that always rush into conclusion, the latest firmware for the GH3 out there is the 0.5, so let’s not try to be too stupid and try to have a solid opinion based on a pre production camera!
yo
8 months ago |why didn’t they use the same lenses?
TW
8 months ago |Why on earth is the WB so bad on the GH3? Is this as good as the auto WB got? Or was this test deliberately skewed towards the EM5?
OASYS
8 months ago |Back to the link I provided. Please don’t look at the scores. Just look at SNR 18%. You shell see the real ISO preformences are quite closed for GH2, GX1, G5, NEX-5N, OM-D, 600D, and so on (within 1/3EV). What people expect to be improved in ISO is actually held up for a long time. That’s the fact. Again, I’m talking about the photography in real life not scores.
sc
8 months ago |This is nothing other then a comparison of jpg engines.
From what I can see the oly realy pushes the saturation giving the impression of better high iso performance, to me the GH3 is miles ahead there is still some semblance of edges at the top isos it aslo appears the NR engion is a little over zealous. I would really like to see to direct raw conversions to TIFF.
Alexander
8 months ago |gH3 = dslr size
Om-D = m4/3 size
Any questions?…..
michael
8 months ago |Not a very good comparison, because
1. jpg
2. gh3 underexposed nad white-balance is off
But what i see, nevertheless:
1. e-m5 has much nicer noise. Gh3 applies stronger noise reduction, smearing in the image results. e-m5 has a nice, grainy and film-like noise compared to the gh3.
2. gh3 seems to retain the colors better at 6400, despite the underexposure. clearly better than the e-m5 in my eyes.
5657
8 months ago |Just as with every other article that mentions anything Panasonic we have to read a load of BS Olympus fanboy whining. The Olympus Walt Disney JPEG’s may well appeal to many { hey ,a lot of folk like cartoons} , but they have little to do with reality . If you want to see the truth about a sensor take a RAW film turn off all NR { if you can } then if you must compare do so with another RAW file from the comparison camera treated the same way. Not forgetting to use the same damn lens on both cameras, and exposed properly according to the respective cameras actual ISO number.
The Olympus fanboy destruction of any forum where they exist is getting real old. The E-M5 is a great camera with an excellent feature set however it is less than a stop better than the GH2 and liable to be pretty much identical to the GH3. This is a great step up from the 12mp which was getting on , the E-M5 compared to the best APS models { the Sony 16mp }is behind by what sensor size would dictate .Which is hardly a surprise considering Sony make the best sensors in every sensor format it competes in so the major differentiating factor is sensor size. The E-M5 is the first and only DSLR by Olympus that is even competitive against the better APS models. FT failed miserably and is in its death throes the last remaining model the E-5 is just a 2007 E-3 body with a 2009 e-620 sensor in it so let’s not get carried away one competent camera { if you ignore AF speed and real high ISO quality} in the digital era does not make Olympus amazing .
ose
8 months ago |What is funny is read your opinion about jpgs if you shoot all at raw format you are wasting your live. I prefer to have a good jpg engine than to expend hours revealing a cup of cofee also pana still improving his green cast . By the end if I want this sized camera I will be more than happy with one D7000 near same size.
bert
8 months ago |It´s the question if it´s good to compare jpg´s in this early phase of the GH3.
Looking at the bookshelfs with iso 1600, the GH3 has a little more noise, but : the border lines between colours are much cleaner! You can see this also on the photos of the colour checker.
With cleaner I mean : It looks like ” digital dirt ” on the OM-D photos, at least at the edges.
If you want to pixel peep to excess, compare the photos with Fast Stone Viewer at 200 %, then it´s getting very clear …
From my own experience with my OM-D I know, that there is a difference when shooting raw if you look at the ” dirty ” edges , but for jpg the edges doesn´t look good..
PS : you can see this also at ISO 800 and 400..
DingieM
8 months ago |GH3 looks quite bulky…designed for bigger hands?
chienDog
8 months ago |the gh3 “grain” is so much bigger !! beurk !
Heat Legend
8 months ago |Why are they comparing a video camera to a stills camera???????????
Beomagi
8 months ago |They’re both still cameras. GH3 simply has a heavy emphasis on video as well.
Beomagi
8 months ago |Poorly tested.
They need to stop relying on automatic exposure and do like for like.
the olympus images are brighter and better exposed/white balance. they should have manually set exposure to ensure the Panasonic can be properly compared. Obviously, proper exposure can have a lot to do with clarity and noise of the image.
Granted, this does highlight the difference between how the cameras expose, but that only needs to be shown once.
Seth
8 months ago |There is no option to pick “The tester doesn’t understand white balance.” That’s what I would pick.