More info about the B.I.G. Shift Lens 4,5/15mm MFT. New Epson panel for future Olympus cameras?
As you know the Olympus E-M5 is using Epson viewfinder technology. Epson now announced a new viewfinder that will may be used by Olympus for future external or internal electronic viewfinders: “Measuring just 0.48 of an inch diagonally, the new panel offers XGA (1024 x 768) resolution in red, green and blue for a total of 2.36 megapixels. It is the latest addition to Epson’s renowned ULTIMICRON series, which already includes a 0.47-inch SVGA panel and a 0.52-inch QHD panel.”
Source: Epson.
via Personal View.
Photoscala (Translation here)posted the fulls pecs of the new B.I.G. 15mm f/4.5 Shift Lens for Micro Four Thirds:
| Specifications BIG Shift Lens 4,5 / 15 mm MFT | |
| Focal length | 15 mm (equivalent to 30 mm film) |
| Luminosity | 4.5 |
| Minimum aperture | 22 |
| Lens construction | 8 elements in 6 groups |
| Focus Limit | 50 cm |
| Diameter | 65 mm |
| Length | 45.5 mm |
| Weight | 200 g |
| Filter thread | 52 mm |
| Lens hood | integrated |
| Price | 999, - |
mocha
9 months ago |An interesting finding. The shift lens of 15mm f/4.5 seems a borrowed design from Voigtlander. The lens structure is just identical 6 groups 8 elements and attaching a shift adapter at the rear part. I think it should be more economic if someone makes a Leica M shift adapter on it. I think the space should be adequate to make this work and can be universally used on all the M mount lenses.
Anna_T
9 months ago |There are two problems with that shift lens :
a) 15mm -> 30mm equivalent is way not enough for architecture photography. We need a 12mm at least.
b) From what I’ve read at Photoscala.de, the lens is a Voigtländer lens at base. But everyone knows that adapted M lens give you bad results on mft when they are larger shorter than normal (aka shorter than 35-50mm). So unless Voigtländer seriously tweaked that lens for mft, it will probably deliver very bad corners. A no no for architecture photography.
I want a shift lens so badly, but I fear that this one can’t be the answer. Too bad, because at this price (1’000€) if the lens doesn’t deliver what it promises, it will not sell and it will discourage any other manufacturer to offer one.
Tristan
9 months ago |It does surprise me that there are no tilt shift adaptors for m4/3, there are tilt adaptors, and shift adaptors, but none that have both as far as I can find. Would love to be able to mount om lenses and use tilt & shift at the same time.
TheEye
9 months ago |Maybe Zörk will soon have a swing/shift/tilt adaptor for m4/3. They have one in OM mount.
Anna_T
9 months ago |As far as I know, there is one Kipon shift adapter for Nikon -> mft, but since most Nikon glass is legacy glass, it is much too longer for architecture photography on mft cameras. So I guess that there is not much interest in such adapters.
But you can find them on Ebay if you look. Just feed in Kipon shift and mft.
KWW
9 months ago |If Panasonic really wanted to knock our socks off, they would do a 7mm prime lens with tilt shift capability.
Rainer
9 months ago |Dont you think 15 mm is “poor” . I guess you need a shift especially for architecture pictures. Streets are very often small, buildings high, I do not see really the use of a 15 mm optic.
Anna_T
9 months ago |I fully agree, that is not what we need for architecture. The problem is that they are trying to work with existing lens. What we need is a new design.
May be Schneider Kreuznach will make one sometime later and if in 2013 their first lenses sell well.
mark
9 months ago |Shift lens specs without shift amount?
Anna_T
9 months ago |Read at Photoscala.de : they say 5.3 mm or something like that. Surprising low given they are adapting a 24x36mm on a 17x13mm sensor. Probable due to bad corners performance.
Daf46
9 months ago |I just don’t understand why display’s count pixels multiplied by number of subpixels (R,G,B). To me, it is a 0.8Mpixels panel or am i missing something ?
nobody
9 months ago |For € 1000, Samyang will probably offer the wider FX 24mm lens that not only shifts but also tilts.
IMO, the m43 shift lens shouldn’t cost more than € 500.
David Tenser
9 months ago |I believe it’s an old marketing trick from the early days when the actual megapixel count would be perceived as pathetic. They really should just list the resolution in XX x YY pixels instead of dots or megapixels.
Camaman
9 months ago |Because they are copy pasting original specs. And Epson made them like so because it sounds better during a sales pitch.
2MP EVF would mean FullHD, and that would be end all be all EVF for this display size and viewing distance.
Jalo
9 months ago |the connecting cable of the panel takes as much space as a mirror & prism
adriaantie
9 months ago |All these expensive lenses for those crappy sensors.
GreyOwl
9 months ago |Troll.
Anonymous
9 months ago |Don’t worry about Adriaantie, his Box Brownie is still working and he still has a supply of 120 roll, plenty of B&W but running short on colour, can anyone please help him out with some colour film they don’t need.
bonzo
9 months ago |http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1042&thread=42536631
Dummy00001
9 months ago |And the poster was displeased that people see such posts as trolling… LOL. When they get the time and zeal for that? I wish I had that much resources to spare – to shoot more.
Kornflejk
9 months ago |Hi Admin, have you got any info about “mysterious” viewfinder solution for PENs? Thank you
admin
9 months ago |nope. But I think ti has to do with Four Thirds lens support!
TheEye
9 months ago |I believe the talking Oly head said “revolutionary.” He was probably talking about a medium-term project 5 to 10 years away.
Bronica
9 months ago |Yes, but in 10 years it’s revolutionary – from the point of view of today
Bronica
9 months ago |They say, that the shift-macahnism ist “made in germany”. The Voitgtländer costs about 500 Euro – so 999,- Euro ist expensive, but not to high.
There is also a the Ultra Wide Heliar 12mm. It costs about 950 Euro. Would be a 24mm-equiv.-Shift on MFT for 1.500 Euro.
The Voigtländer 15mm is known as a very good lens. So: professional use is possible. The focal distance is ok. The widest Schneider -Shift for Leica R was also a 28mm. I used a ARSAT 35mm from Ukraine.
Now, I use the hole range of MFT-Optics- from Fisheye to Supertele, I work in a office and I have my gear always with me – so it’s there, when I need it.
However: 999,- Euro for a Shift Lens – probably no – I have other priorities. A second OMD-Body, a 0,95 25mm/17mm or a fast tele.
Anna_T
9 months ago |No, the focal is too long. We need at least 28mm equivalent or better 24mm equivalent. There is quite a difference between 28mm and 30mm. At the short end every mm makes a difference.
tim
9 months ago |you spend a lot of time for trolling around dont you?
Would you mind adding the Prices & a lens comparison to the pic?
And please cut this stupid equivalent part of your arguments-from my point its the otherway round-> bigger DOF is good!
YouDidntDidYou
9 months ago |@adriaante
I hope you didn’t put that together, it just looks desperate and misses so many points…
Do people hunger for bigger computers (ie 8/16/32 processors etc)/tv screens (wall size screens etc) etc? No, they just want what works for them and that’s Micro Four Thirds with Sony and Fuji not too far behind (Pentax Q, Nikon1 and Canon EOS M out of the mirrorless game), I’m sure it’s the same in the Netherlands?
HTHTJ
9 months ago |Your hatred of Nikon is a joke , in the major world markets the Nikon 1 system has been very successful { amazing considering how limited the range is } . The imaging division of Panasonic and Olympus are losing money hand over fist. Instead of spending your time on various forums making a fool of yourself your time would be better spent practising your photography . A lot of fat , drunk northern are depending on you for their snapshots ,poor buggers
YouDidntDidYou
9 months ago |@HTHTJ
so brave you are.
mark
9 months ago |If smaller film/sensors were better or more desirable, micro film would dominate right now. M43 is seriously lacking in some aspects, like fast wides.
bart
9 months ago |But it is. 35mm IS a small film format, much smaller then the ‘professional’ formats from the film era. Incidently, it was also the most used format, even by pros.
Initially, it was barely good enough, but about half a century ago technology had progressed to the point that it was good enough for most uses.
Historically the move to smaller film, and later sensor size, has been going on from the first days of photography.
HTHTJ
9 months ago |Larger DOF is good !
You are in luck then there are numerous p&s cameras with almost infinite DOF.
Dummy00001
9 months ago |Yes, RX100 is surprisingly good. Very good. It would have been perfect if: (1) it had 24mm eq on the wide end and (2) it had slightly better ISO 1600 (but even then color fidelity is quite OK). Probably should buy myself one.
GreyOwl
9 months ago |adriaantie seems to like playing Devil’s Advocate, or should that be Troll…..
Bronica
9 months ago |Stupid comparison –
– the are many reasons for MFT:
7-14mm – 300g
9-18mm – 160g
…
It’s the system that counts, not the camera with on standard lens.
Remember: therefore, there is mount…
Count the lenses and the cameras togehter an even you will sse the difference. I know, what’s in my bagpack, which I have always with me. And I know, what was inside when I used my beloved EOS1: Nothing. Because it was to heavy.
TheEye
9 months ago |That’s why you need a strong wife and many children.
Bronica
9 months ago |Haha, I have a strong wife and children. I carry lunchboxes and pampers..
TheEye
9 months ago |So my idea backfired? You’re on your own!
Bronica
9 months ago |Yes, that’s live! The aim is not perfectionism. It’s pragmatism. That means MFT.
bonzo
9 months ago |And who cares? If Oly really goes down the drain I can always switch the train
Steve
9 months ago |Interesting news about the EVF, but it seems like everyone else is switching to OLED.
Gato
9 months ago |Interesting on the shift lens. 30mm eq. is longish for interiors but still useful, even more useful outdoors. A companion 10 or 12 would be nice. Team it with WiFi and an ipad for those odd or cramped camera positions.
Camaman
9 months ago |New EVF doesn’t sounds to be OLED. That is to bad.
I guess Epson got stuck and now has to work with what they payed for.
Bart
9 months ago |Seen it in use yet?
The name of the technology isn’t important, the results are (and no, I didn’t see any results yet, hence its a bit early to have any opinion on what they are doing)
bart
9 months ago |As usual, your Depth Of Understanding is too shallow to get the whole picture.
MP Burke
9 months ago |I have managed to find a link to an article by Gareth Gardner describing the use of a 12mm Voigtlander lens on a shift adaptor
http://www.ggardner.myzen.co.uk/wordpressblog/?p=1671
I would imagine that the experience with the 15mm lens would be similar, that as you use larger amounts of tilt and/or shift, the tendency for vignetting and colour shifting would get ever stronger.
The ideal case would be a lens that covered a much larger image circle than the mft sensor, but without the need for so much correction. If you have to apply lots of post processing to the image from the PC lens, then it begs the question: why not just shoot with a good wide angle lens and use post processing to adjust the perspective?
Paul Alexander
9 months ago |I agree that we need a 12mm shift for architectural and such distances, but I know that the image circle of a 12mm at ∞ would be too small on the sensor for much meaningful shift at all. HOWEVER at closer ranges, particularly where I like to work 4″-12″from my still life; a 15mm is nice. I do like some spherical ‘distortion’ in close ups than you get from longer lenses. I really look forward to trying this lens(if only I could settle of a camera
The Other Chris
9 months ago |Shooting architecture without a shift lens is an Everyday Struggle. While photographers used to have to carry around large view cameras or DSLRs with cumbersome lenses to get perspective control, Things Done Changed with the new 15mm B.I.G. shift lens and tiny micro for thirds cameras! You’ll Hypnotize current clients with the superb image quality, and past clients will be begging you for One More Chance. Useful for portraits, too, as changing the plane of focus will give you greater control of the Juicy out of focus rendering. “Who Shot Ya?” will be the question asked by your clients’ friends, and soon you’ll be raking in Mo Money (without Mo Problems). The Sky’s The Limit with the soon-to-be Notorious B.I.G. 15mm shift lens,