(FT5) Some more 75-300mm lens info (and XZ-10 specs)
Here are the full specs of the new 75-300mm Micro Four Thirds lens and the XZ-10 compact camera:
Olympus M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED75-300mm F4.8-6.7 II
- 58mm filter size
- Lens design: 18 lenses 13 groups with one Super ED lens.
- length: 116.5mm, maximum diameter: 69mm
- weight: 423g
- Price 599 Euro
- Release in March
Olympus XZ-10
- 12 Megapixel sensor (1/2.3 inch)
- 26-130mm f/1.8-2.7 lens
- Fixed grip.
- About 40% more compact XZ-2 and weight of 221gram
- 11 different art filters, effects of five art
- Touch AF shutter
- Media: SD/SDHC/SDXC
- 920,000 dot 3 inches LCD monitor, touch panel
- Full HD video
- Price 399 Euro
- Late February release
specs via 43rumors and Digicaminfo
Reza
4 months ago |I think XZ-10 achieves something that no camera before has done. It puts a bright lens in your pants pockets, with pictures comparable to a m43 kit zoom lens.
It will give the same or better bokeh and possibly not too far ISO performance right in your pocket. I’m not going to repeat myself, I wrote a comparison between the XZ-10 and a m43 kit zoom here: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3375672
Reza
4 months ago |By the way, admin, it seems the sensor is a 1/2.3″, not same as XZ-2.
Sunny
4 months ago |Yes, I think the specs are not correct. I don´t beleive in a 2/3 inch sensor. This would mean the cheaper XZ-10 has a bigger sensor than the expensive XZ-2.
1/2.3″ seems more likely. And this would mean it´s not a 26-130mm zoom.
Sunny
4 months ago |Sorry, I was wrong. It should be a 26-130mm zoom. The Oly VH-410 has an 1/2.3″ sensor with the same focal length.
Milt
4 months ago |Lots of publicity to the ZX-10 on this site. A slow news day.
peevee
4 months ago |Looks like the same sensor from TG-1, TG-2, Pentax Q etc.
Ross
4 months ago |The 75-300 Mk II lens will be 1mm smaller in dia., 0.5mm longer (according to specs) & 7gm lighter (than the 1st version). So long as the price is right, this time it should sell better. I much prefer the look of this one to the previous model.
Lowenado
4 months ago |I can’t believe they didn’t at least make this one weather sealed to meet new OMD owner desires. What the heck is the point of making is a dash lighter and a smidge smaller without making it FASTER and weather sealed?
Ross
4 months ago |It would have to be more expensive to do it tough.
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4 months ago |A couple of O-rings wouldn’t cost that much but yes, Oly would for sure ask a premium price for them
c0ldc0ne
4 months ago |I’d like to see you seal a zoom barrel with a couple of O-rings.
Salty
4 months ago |It would be nice though if it was sealed at the mount, so that even if the lens get’s wet the body is protected.
Alfred
4 months ago |For sure I will never get a F6.7 lens.
Ross
4 months ago |I think I will (if the price is OK). A half a stop darker but a bit wider (75-300) instead of the Pana 100-300 & also smaller & lighter. It is reportably a little sharper at 300mm than the Pana too.
Milan
4 months ago |Unfortunately the info about the XZ-10 having the same sensor as the XZ-2 cannot be correct. In previous pictures it could be clearly read the focal lengths, and I hoped that it would be the sensor on the LX7 with a crop factor of 5.1, giving an equivalent of 24-120mm (the XZ-2 has a bigger sensor with a crop factor of 4.7).
But if the eq. focal length is really 26-130, that means that the sensor is even smaller (5.5 crop factor), basically a regular 1/2.3″ in any compact camera.
Still a nice camera, though.
DonTom
4 months ago |To me it won’t matter what sensor the XZ-10 has, it matters that I can’t mount an EVF to it. Time for me to use Slidoo to find a really cheap XZ-2 to use my VF-2 on!
devorama
4 months ago |I believe this is incorrect. The XZ-10 will not have a 1/1.7″ sensor. The lens says 4.7mm at the wide end. That would be like 20mm equivalent FoV for that 1/1.7″ sensor. I’d say a 1/2.3″ sensor with 24mm wide end is much more likely.
O
4 months ago |Bingo!
O
4 months ago |Sensor is smaller!
W. C.
4 months ago |Uninspiring.
Ryan
4 months ago |if this had the same Sensor as the XZ-2 I would buy it instantly. 26-130mm lens is pretty nice….if it were to have the 1/1.7 sensor size…
tomas
4 months ago |why oly dont put eg epl3 senzor into compacts? You could buy old epl/ep models cheaper than those compacts. Ok xz10/xz2 has bright lens…but 399e for such tiny senzor
Laserlor
4 months ago |Oh yummy, another slow super tele! So, the Pany version is selling so fast that Oly couldn’t afford to miss tyis steller opportunity?
And let me guess, no charge black for a non-pro market lens, but the pro-worthy primes charge extra or arent even availablem in black. i love my OMD, but Olympus really neds to extract their head from their bottom in all other areas, like lens hods for example…. yeesh.
just for fun, they should make a lens in a focal length not already available, in black, and include the hood and caps…. you know, shock the market lol
adaptor-or-die
4 months ago |@Laserlor I do recognise the sarcasm in your text, don’t get me wrong, but your points, kind of make sense? After all anyone who is professional/serious, can likely care less what colour their lens comes in, despite the constant yowl over it here by many comments posted? Lens caps and lens hoods again, are the stuff you buy to loose and destroy, who cares if they match, or came with the oEM optics? Does it’s absence diminish a good lens?
These rather are the concerns of the retail buyer. The person who wants their camera to look as cool as it behaves. Colour coordination is a marketing aspect. A brand is important because it carries status. But in the use aspect, that stuff makes no difference, to the camera, to the photographer, or to the world in general?
No-one really cares? They only time they do care about such material and cosmetic realities, is when they are buying something, and then the retail mindset kicks in, the used car sales lot erupts from the Id ….
“why doesn’t it come in black? Oh, it does? Then why can’t I get it in gunmetal? Where’s the free cleaning cloth? because, frankly I can’t really own such a lens if it doesn’t come with a cleaning cloth … How will I clean it otherwise? Don’t I get a key chain? a T-shirt? A cap?”
I don’t find Olympus ignoring this type of approach a problem, because such demands are fairly modern and based on more the way electronics and hard goods are fobbed off on a public that lives and dies on consumerism. Olympus is in a lot of ways an old school company. Sometimes that aspect benefits a brand, and other times it doesn’t? But if the brand can carry it’s own weight it rarely needs to shill a product?
Leica never gives you free shit. Either does Rolex, or Aston Martin, established companies rely on their names and history. Places like Walmart give out free food to get you buy their crappy goods … which is more important to you as a consumer?
Certainly if you feel that Olympus products are only valid if they come in a specific range of colours, or provide you with accessories in order to justify their purchase, that is a consumer’s prerogative … but the constant whine over these aspects gets pretty old.
Selling their kit lenses in black makes a lot of sense? These are the people that feel colour and cosmetics are really important to a sale. Like the floral Scroll work on the XZ-10′s [in what is likely Japan only] these things are important to target markets?
I think your average serious photographer. Either amateur or professional it’s not really a factor, someone that wants to use their camera and lenses, could care very little about cases, lens caps, and hoods? (All these things cost less than $10 on ebay,) and if you lose, break or mess them up, “oh god my limited edition lens cap, it’s ruined!” … so does Olympus spend their R&D on making the coolest lens cap ever? Or do they work on say making better lenses and bodies?
From my own perspective, I’d rather consider myself a photographer, than a consumer. [others may have different asperations?]
ssgreenley
4 months ago |+1,000,000! Thank you so much for this comment!
Laserlor
4 months ago |Hey Adapter
I appreciate your opinions and you ability to share them respectfully, thank you.
But I remain, respectfully, critical of Olympus. I agree you can buy lens hoods and other items separately, but why should I have to. This is not Leica gear and I am not a niche buyer. I want value for my dollar. Frankly, I bought an after market hood for my 45mm 1.8 and it was awful, it didn’t fit right, but that was the only difference for the Oly one. Olympus lenses are not cheap, granted they are very good, but the cost should include the basic parts that nearly all other makers include.
Further, I want my gear to be subtle and easier to use without attracting too much attention, having all black gear makes it less noticeable, any street shooter will tell you this. So, the benefit of the OMD’s smaller size is reduced by the contrasting lenses.
In closing, although maybe not clear (my fault) my sarcasm was directed at the endless duplication of mediocre slow lenses by both parties. We really don’t need any more 14-150mm 5.6 lenses for crying out loud. You talk about putting good money into R&D and I agree this is much needed in this regard (primes are coming along very nicely
). I doubt very much that, without pixel peeping (which pros don’t do) you will not be able to see the difference in resolution in a blind test (once color corrected etc.).
What makes sense is having choice, I agree, and competition has only helped this format, but have you looked at the m43 list of lenses across all makers? There is a ridiculous amount of duplication in the 14-200 range and they are all so slow which is bad for action and bokeh shots.
Like I said, I love my Oly OM-D and would rate it as high as any I have used as a pro or semi pro over the last 30 years, I just with that Oly would take it as seriously and give it the lenses and value it deserves.
We all have our preferences, sorry if my sarcasm hit a nerve (I was hoping it might with Oly/Pany though) and again, thanks for your thoughts.
Reza
4 months ago |I think XZ-10 achieves something that no camera before has done. It puts a bright lens in your pants pockets, with pictures comparable to a m43 kit zoom lens.
It will give the same or better bokeh and possibly not too far ISO performance right in your pocket. I’m not going to repeat myself, I wrote a comparison between the XZ-10 and a m43 kit zoom here: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3375672
W. C.
4 months ago |It’s not just about apertures, DOF and bokeh. The larger sensor will give you better colour depth and dynamic range, which is more important to some than the ability to blur out the background on every shot or use high ISO, which is only possible on small sensors by use of heavy NR.
An RX100 1″ sensor or the better m4/3 sensors RAW will give you more to work with than a 1/1.7″ or 1/2.3″ RAW. If you’re just taking snapshots, downsizing mainly for web use or use JPEG only, then it really doesn’t matter. Choose the camera that you like best if it serves your needs.
BTW I don’t get the obsession with putting everthing in shirt/pants pockets, but whatever one’s requirements are, that’s fine. I usually travel with a backpack or bag of some kind, and my photography is more considered and deliberate, so pocketability is not important for me. With phones, DAPs, DABs, wallets, keys, EDC torches, cameras etc., some folks are going to run out of pockets sooner or later. I’d rather put that weight in a bag or case rather than on my person.
Reza
4 months ago |W.C. Yes, RX100 does have an advantage at the wide end. But st the tele end, its DoF will be worse than XZ-10, and for the same light and focal length (at tele) it might even create more noise than XZ-10. So, based on numbers, if you are a wide angle guy, RX100 is your pick. If you are into tele, XZ-10 might have an advantage, or at least not be in a disadvantage.
Harold glit
4 months ago |THAT. Is not very serious. Comparing a 1/2.3″ sensor with a 4/3rds. There is going to be a VISIBLE. Difference , especially when you do not use base ISO
Reza
4 months ago |But Harold, that is the point. If you use tele often, and rely on *kit lens*, the faster lens DOES give you an advantage. 3 stops to be precise. It will equalize the DoF, and give a 3 stop advantage for noise.
Go to dpreview studio comparison tool and compare, say a GF3 at ISO 1600 with any point and shoot at ISO 200. The differences should be minimal.
P.S. this argument is also valid for superzoom users (14-150) to some extent.
J Shin
4 months ago |Very interesting, thought-inducing figures! Thank you for sharing that.
I’ve been playing around with a DOF calculator, and the DOF equivalencies don’t really hold up in the shorter focal lengths and shorter subject distances; try 6 ft at the 28mm equivalents. Also, I wouldn’t consider 50 ft and infinity exactly equivalent, when one of them has six feet of depth before the subject and the other has 4.5 feet before the subject. I tend to maximize depth of field, so all this is moot for me, but thought I should point this out.
I share your enthusiasm for pocketability, and I did consider raw-producing compacts for that reason. Still, a fairer comparison for me is not the kit zooms, but the 14/2.5 or 20/1.7; not quite pants-pocketable, but definitely coat-pocketable.
And I want to emphasize that depth of field is not the same thing as bo-keh. Mirror super-tele lenses have extremely shallow depth of field, but what some consider to be the worst possible bo-keh, although I like it myself.
If you really want shallow depth of field and beautiful bo-keh, try 200-300 mm film-era lenses.
Sorry about my rambling. Time to go to bed.
Reza
4 months ago |Yes, you are absolutely right. It’s not a simple comparison as thevfocus distance comes into play. I was just trying to make a point that this XZ-10 does in fact give us something that no other camera has done before, and it’s worth paying attention to.
Of course the proof of the pie is in the pudding. Let’s wait for some reviews. But just based on the specs and numbers, I find this camera very appeling.
Reza
4 months ago |Haha, yep, too much enthusiasm here. Prrof of the pudding is in the eating. I know, I know …
Olympus 75-300mm II F4.8-6.7 ED - Seite 7 - Systemkamera Forum
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Idreamphoto
4 months ago |Thisis 75-300 equivalent or is it the spec of the lens itself? I must have misunderstood something.
Ross
4 months ago |It is the focal lengths of this zoom lens. The 35mm equivalent is 150-600mm.
Sören
4 months ago |Boring Tamron Anouncement:
http://www.digitalkamera.de/Meldung/Superzoom_Tamron_14-150_Millimeter_fuer_Micro_Four_Thirds/8140.aspx
Kudo
4 months ago |I don’t find that boring. Even though I am not gonna buy it.
JimD
4 months ago |14-150 3.5-5.8
That’s a pity 2 reasons.
I already have the Oly 14-150.
And I expected Tamron to come in with something a little faster and shorter focal length.
It looks like its a “rebadged” nex job.
But, Tamron, welcome to the club.
sneye
4 months ago |The old 75-300 contains two ED elements and three HR elements, which give it impressive contrast and clarity. The new version seems to keep the 18/13 architecture but skimp on special glass. Hence the reduced price (and probably quality too).
Ross
4 months ago |Thanks for pointing that out as I hadn’t taken that bit in. I’ll probably pass on that then & maybe just get the Panasonic 100-300 lens after all, but then again, I’m not going to spit the dummy on a rumour as many have done in the past & will wait to see what actually comes & see if it is any good.
Ross
4 months ago |I’ve just read the above specs again & the original had 1 X Super ED element & also an ED & HR element. From the above specs, as minimal details have been supplied in this rumour, my guess is that it will still have the ED & HR elements as well as “only one Super ED Element” & the announcement will confirm that one way or another. This is why we shouldn’t get too excited (or disappointed) till all the facts are known (officially) & also after some reviews are done. So I’m still interested in this lens as a general telezoom for my kit & I shouldn’t let myself get carried away with others comments.
Ross
4 months ago |And now that it’s announced, here are the lens elements details. High-performance 18 element in 13 group optical design uses a Super
ED (Extra-low Dispersion) lens element, and two ED lenses to eliminate
chromatic aberrations. 3 HR (High-refractive) lenses keeps the physical size
compact and further reduces optical aberrations.
Peter
4 months ago |My feeling, after reading these rumors, is that Olympus squarely aims at the lower end of the market and lost all interest for the “enthousiast” segment. f/6.7 max aperture? 1/2.3″ sensor? Sorry, I just can’t be bothered.
Longing to the good old times of HG lenses for 4/3
Sunny
4 months ago |Hm, I´m not so disappointed. In the segment of 1/2.3″ sensor compacts, the XZ-10 will be the high end model. With all the me-too-cameras in the market you can´t earn much money any more.
In the higher segment there´s the XZ-2.
Concerning the 75-300: Yes, I think people weren´t waiting for this lense. Many people are waiting for lenses like an mft 12-60 2,8 or 50-200 2,8. But there are rumors that Oly will release high quality lenses for mft. So let´s be patient.
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c0ldc0ne
4 months ago |That makes absolutely no sense at all.