(FT4) VF-3 has 900.000 pixel resolution

I have been told that the upcoming VF-3 has less Pixels than the current VF-2. The VF-3 has 900.000 pixels while the VF-2 has 1.400.000. The main advantage of the VF-3 is that it is much cheaper.
NO idea yet when Olympus will announce it!!!

y2bd
11 months ago |In before “HURR NEX7 HAS 3MP EVF LOLOL STOOPID OLYMPUS FANBOISE DURR”.
Seriously guys, we don’t care. I personally think this sounds awesome, especially if the integrated flash part turns out true as well.
Jesper
11 months ago |Since i’ve only tested the Panasonic LVF-1, which only has 202.000 dots. I should be able to feel a huge improvement of this. Is this compatibel with pana cameras?
lnqo-M
11 months ago |No, Olympus and Panasonic have two difference contact.
onlyme
11 months ago |I would love to know if the VF-3 will work on a E-PL1.
lnqo-M
11 months ago |No, E-P1 not have contact.
CallaWolf
11 months ago |Inqo-M asked if it might be compatible with the EP L 1, not the EP1…
It’s certainly possible
lnqo-M
11 months ago |Yes, absolute compatible on E-PL1.
Zorg
11 months ago |Not sure. E-PL1 has Accessory Port 1 (AP1); this new viewfinder might need Accessory Port 2 (AP2, E-PL2 onward).
Brod1er
11 months ago |Lower spec and price make sense for this accessory. €100 =yes please! 1mpx is fine for most uses.
Pablo
11 months ago |Hmmm. Funny marketing behavior from Oly. They bring out more and more cheap and technologically inferior stuff, instead of challenging their competition on the quality and performance level… Btw. the way it looks, you will have no way to direct the light from the flash towards the ceiling, as is possible with the homemade ping-pong ball difuser, bouncer paired with the tiny NEX flash… So Oly is making its way down to the P&S level (with awful direct flash pictures), instead of aiming upwards… Less possibilities, lower technology, sad… Some time ago, I used to see the potential of this system, however now, it makes only steps backwards…
Jack
11 months ago |And Nex has a potential as a full system? I may listen when Sony come out with a proper Superwide zoom and anything other then oversized lens on unbalanced body.
Seriously, if you want a proper Sony, get a proper Alpha, I like their camera. Can you stop bitching about on M43 forums. Guys, I just can’t resist feeding this troll, lol
Pablo
11 months ago |Oh you are right. I am such a silly little girl I am. I all the time talk about Nex because Nex is so small and cute but has such big sensor! And to be honest I am just so jealous of Olympus owners! I wish I had both Nex and Olympus! Silly I am!
Dana Curtis Kincaid
11 months ago |You are a bit of a jerk…
sneye
11 months ago |The built-in flash bit is intriguing. A good solution for E-PL3 and E-PM1 users, albeit I don’t expect it to be very powerful (if it’s there at all).
Jesper
11 months ago |Yes, it should not be stronger than the built in flash on E-P3. Otherwise E-P3 will lose it position. Imagine E-PL2 with evf and built-in flash, and tilt screen.
M
11 months ago |THERE IS NO BUILT-IN FLASH, FFS. Stop it already!
Zorg
11 months ago |Yes, I don’t get this built-in flash rumor at all. Look at the picture, look at the size, and it’s clear that a built-in flash is just not possible.
GreyOwl
11 months ago |I don’t get the built-in flash rumour either, it’s not making sense with the expected cheaper price. We shall see….
Mar
11 months ago |640×480 is not bad at all if price is cheap.
VF2 is 800×600 – not that huge of a difference.
Ulli
11 months ago |i partly agree, i think its less usefull for lenses like the noktor/nokton/noctilux when used wideopen, as you want to use the 10x magnify for the critical focus. I experienced lesser results when using 7x magnifying. So prob the 900k pixel vf would be better suited for “normal” apertures when doin mf.
Iain
11 months ago |With the E-PL2 came a new accessory port, and the accessories released since then don’t work with the E-PL1 (Penpal bluetooth module and the macro LED lights). Not looking good…
sneye
11 months ago |I think that all the accessories work with E-PL1 and E-P2 except the PenPal.
alper
11 months ago |I suppose it does not tilt like vf-2?
M
11 months ago |LOL
640×480? What a failure.
Ryan
11 months ago |640×480 resolution wont make a difference in something as small as a viewfinder compared to 800×600..so failure? I dont think so.
M
11 months ago |640*480 = 307200
800*600 = 480000
480/307.2 = 1.56
“Won’t make a difference”, huh?
Esa Tuunanen
11 months ago |While Sony’s coming EVF has probably 3 megadots which makes 1 million RGB pixels.
Boooo!
11 months ago |It never crossed my mind that those viewfinders would count dots instead of pixels
Is that really true what he’s saying?
cL
11 months ago |Sigma is already playing this game. Foveon sensor is only 4 megapixels…. The 12MP of SD1 is actually 4 megapixel by conventional definition. That said, it’s still a good 4 megapixel, so the quality of pixel is still something to consider.
M
11 months ago |Yes. Divide there resolution by 3. Same thing with displays on back of the cameras.
Brod1er
11 months ago |Ho ho!! You are so quick to jump to conclusions and criticise! Not a failure if it enables people to afford a VF who couldn’t previously. Saves upgrading the whole camera or switching to a system with zero/nil high quality lenses! It will probably still be better than many cheap DSLR VFs.
GreyOwl
11 months ago |Plus one.
Esa Tuunanen
11 months ago |640×480 viewfinders were available already seven years ago!
Question would be different if we were talking about analog film roll “containers” but this about digital technology so getting over that limit after this many years shouldn’t be too much to ask.
Or do you also ask to get half dozen years old parts when buying computer?
Thomas
11 months ago |Just having any EVF in sunlight is better than looking at back screen (which you can’t see). The first one was too expensive.
st3v4nt
11 months ago |If this new VF not compatible with EPL-1, why then Oly discontinue EPL-2 but keep selling EPL-1?…it’s also funny to notice that EP-3, EPL-3 and EPM-1 all can use BLS-1 and BLS-5 batt, but EPL-2 can only use BLS-5 while EPL-1 can use BLS-1 and BLS-5 as well….and yet the Pen Pal being the most uneeded accessories introduce first with EPL-2.
Andi
11 months ago |Hope they are going to release it soon(but I do not think so, cause they did not mention it in most manuals)…But if it is “ok” and cheap, the probability that I buy a Pen instead of a Pana is rising..(From Zero to x:D)
Bob B.
11 months ago |I don’t understand why Olympus would make a less expensive, lower resolution EVF and not design it with a smaller form factor? I am sure both units perform well…so the function part is there…but damn are they ugly.
TheVoiceoverman
11 months ago |It’s cheaper partly BECAUSE it doesn’t have a smaller form factor.
Bob B.
11 months ago |yes..I had that thought….if Oly used the exact same housing as the first finder they are saving lots of money in development…but …you have to admit…they also missed a great opportunity to downsize it and create a VF that flows with the camera design.
om-4
11 months ago |Oly could try doing a foldable/collapsable VF ala Polaroid SX70.
Bob B.
11 months ago |I find that the tech. low rez. LVF I have on my GF1 to be kind of cool looking (albeit “simple”) and more than adequate for my needs…it has not spoiled a photo for me yet…Too bad Oly didn’t make this second VF..somewhere in between the Panny and the firs Oly in resolution and size…THAT would have been a winner!
Michael Meissner
11 months ago |Well in terms of form factor, it needs to be the same width because of the sizes of the accessory port and hot-shoe haven’t changed. And it needs to be the same height because people’s eyes are the same size as before. If you make it smaller, you eliminate potential customers who just can’t see a smaller screen.
Do
11 months ago |They could have done a non-tiltable version with a smaller form factor, of course not as an replacement, but as as an addition to the tiltable one.
Don Pope
11 months ago |There’s plenty of excess to cut off the VF-2, staring with the hinge. The actual glass element in the viewfinder is rather small. Theoretically, that’s as tall as you would have to make it.
manmachine
11 months ago |pixel =/= dot (subpixel)
VF2 has not 1.44 Mpixel. It has 480K pixel and 1.44 Mdots.
Panasonic G1/GH1 LCOS EVF has 480K pixel and have not dots, only its RGB-TFT equivalent is 1,44 Mdots.
om-4
11 months ago |The sideknob does look like it has a micport or is it an AF-assistlamp?
Chris K.
11 months ago |sideknob is for diopter adjustment
Personally I’ll stick with my E-VF2.
Flash is useless to me, even with my E-PL1 I used my flash like 5 times the year+ I’ve owned it.
What I would find exciting would be a kickstarter project or something to mold a smaller case for the E-VF2 that skips the annoying and mostly useless hinge and would add a positive lock to prevent the E-VF2 from getting knocked off accidentally.
Hopefully they’ll come out with a pro-sumer viewfinder to go with the E-P3, the VF3 will disappoint…
frosti7
11 months ago |So that’s Olympus’s answer to the 3mpx Sony evf
Frankly I don’t understand why their evf costs so much while panasonic has the same specs evf on only twice more expensive g3 body,
I’m sure they can sell the evf for 150$ witought any loss, and introduce a 3mpx evf for premium 290$
Besides panasonics external lower spec evf didn’t sell well anyway
fta
11 months ago |frosti7, sonyrumors is calling you
frosti7
11 months ago |Does that mean you disagree with what i wrote? if yes i’d be happy to hear why
and i’m also writing on sonyrumors, and criticizing NEX’s lens selection all the time, so everyone are getting their share
cL
11 months ago |It’s okay to do some criticism, as long as it’s constructive criticism.
Personal attack improves nothing, while constructive criticism provoke thinking and innovation.
If the purpose of art is to provoke thinking. Does that mean criticism is a form of art?
admin
11 months ago |+1
Will
11 months ago |Olympus EP3 manual only lists 2 accessory VFs – VF1 (Optical VF for 17mm lens) & VF2 (current EVF). Suggests to me we won’t see no. 3 anytime soon.
Daemonius
11 months ago |Hate to say that, but original Panasonic G1 had 1,44k dots EVF..
Considering how good is E-P3 screen, I dont think EVF is necessary. Though I really dont get why they didnt include tilt-swivel screen (preferably in Sony style of A77). Ages ago we used big waist level screens, when you have tiltable LCD, its pretty much same (only needs bit more resolution still, but 60D is close to that).
cL
11 months ago |I also like original G1′s EVF. It’s very nice to look at, but like all EVF (and LCD), it doesn’t work too well in dark places.
LCD and EVF, to me, are different things. They have different purposes. Ideally, we should have two, and better still, a hybrid viewfinder plus OLED LiveView… (obviously, a swivel screen. Tilt screen is okay, but swivel screen is better by two folds
).
It’s ironical Nikon moved to real swivel screen with D5100, but Olympus downgraded into a tilt screen…. How much cost did they save?
Herb
11 months ago |I had no idea these small EVFs existed until yesterday. I have been in the market for either the Zacuto EVF of the SmallHD DP4.
Does anyone think it is possible to adapt one of these for external use with other cameras?
What kind of connector is that “accessory” port? Is power included through the port, or is it the hot shoe providing the power?
Thomas S
11 months ago |Voila, this is the new attachable zooming hybrid viewfinder (that’s why there is a window) that will turn your E-P2 into an X100. At $100,- it will come at a bargain!
AmandaNL
11 months ago |Why don’t they drop the price for the VF-2 and make a high-end viewfinder instead?
Olympus have some strange thoughts….
And what about a viewfinder with audio input or build in microphone?
lnqo-M
11 months ago |O`Yes them will come by VF-4 or 5
so is better,(VF-2 is soon two year old)
cL
11 months ago |Make customers happy isn’t the main function of a corporation…. Make your customers too happy and you won’t have anything to sell in the future…. Be wary of happy customers….
shep
11 months ago |If you think that really is a micro-sized flash on this EVF, you may also be interested to know that
–Paul McCartney was dead
–Elvis is alive
–there’s a bridge I can sell you…
Anonymous
11 months ago |saying: one step forward, two steps back comes to mind…
Sam
11 months ago |[sarcasm]Here’s a really new and original idea – why not make a camera with a thing called a viewfinder that you can use to look through to compose the images that you are shooting.[/sarcasm]
Disraeli
11 months ago |The really big deal is what the refresh rate is, if its 12o fps, its over for the SLR.
One megapixel at 1oo fps is considered the tipping point for EVF versus OVF performance.
Tobias W.
11 months ago |I still don’t see a value proposition for people like me from Olympus. I want the PEN form factor but I am not really happy with the size and the form factor of the VF-2 sitting on top of a PEN. Something the size and quality of the Panasonic viewfinder on top a PEN would have been a much better solution for me than something basically as useless as that new viewfinder.
If the E-P3 was already available for sale in the US, I would get one. The next time I’m willing to buy something new, will be in January. By then, Panasonic will have released a new MFT camera that may have a viewfinder integrated while following the PEN form factor. Olympus, you need to also address people like me!
shep
11 months ago |“If the E-P3 was already available for sale in the US, I would get one.”
Check it out, Tobias–it is!
Miroslav
11 months ago |If this flash on VF-3 doesn’t support SuperFP ( and it surely won’t ), then it’s as useless as the built-in one, useful to E-P2, PL3 and PM1 owners.
If the specs of VF-3 do not hide some more interesting stuff, then it’s a bad move for Oly.