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		<title>By: The rumors summary</title>
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		<dc:creator>The rumors summary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Enche Tjin: Maintaining and developing two system at the same time depletes resources. Look at Olympus classic 4:3. Also, seems like Canon are quite confident on their Canon S90 IS and Canon G11 performance.... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Enche Tjin: Maintaining and developing two system at the same time depletes resources. Look at Olympus classic 4:3. Also, seems like Canon are quite confident on their Canon S90 IS and Canon G11 performance&#8230;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Enche Tjin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enche Tjin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maintaining and developing two system at the same time depletes resources. Look at Olympus classic 4:3.

Also, seems like Canon are quite confident on their Canon S90 IS and Canon G11 performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maintaining and developing two system at the same time depletes resources. Look at Olympus classic 4:3.</p>
<p>Also, seems like Canon are quite confident on their Canon S90 IS and Canon G11 performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirilius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirilius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you are only going to shoot with the kit lens, you would be better off with one of the more advanced point and shoot systems that are out there.&quot;

I have an advanced point and shoot camera (Panasonic FZ18) already even though I don&#039;t understand why they call it point and shoot as it has full manual controls. I am also not a point and shoot user as well. I set everything manually in 99% ot my pictures. Most of my pictures are made while travelling (mostly tourist shots) and I like the relatively small size and weight combined with a very versatile lens that I have currently. I am also aware of the limitations that my current camera has:
1) Limited resolution, lots of detail smearing and interpolation (bad for landscapes)
2) Poor dynamic range (crucial for landscapes)
3) Poor high ISO performance (no good indoor pictures)
4) Slow focus (impossible to take pictured of my fast-moving kid)
5) Small sensor means less background defocus (bokeh), which means less expressive portraits.

I don&#039;t want to invest in a DSLR system as it will be too heavy for travelling. I know many people do it, but that&#039;s just not my style.

I have analysed my needs and I figured that the ideal camera setup for me would be (Olympus and Panasonic take notes, please):

Camera:
1) The size and looks of a black E-P2
2) In-body IS
3) Built-in EVF and flash
4) The focus speed of GF1/GH1!!!
5) Dynamic range of E-P1/2
6) Out-of-camera JPEG quality of E-P1/2

Lenses:
7) Panasonic&#039;s 20mm/1.7 for low light and portraits
8) An universal all-in-one travel lens with deceent quality and range 12-120mm (24-240mm equiv)

Price:
- Micro 4/3 is about simplicity and is supposed to make the lenses smaller and cheaper to produce. So the price should not be much different than an equivalent entry-level DSLR system. I quickly checked on the B&amp;H website and it looks that Nikon D3000 + 18-200 VR II + 50/1.8 in total is less than $1469! A similar M4/3 combination should cost less to produce. I would gladly pay ~$1000 for a kit like GH1 + 14-140mm

I think the easiest will be to meet my camera body requirements. All it takes is that Olympus take advantage of the EXISTING fast focus technology of GF1 and put it in their next model. It is as simple as that.

I know I am pushing it with my lens wish for a 12-120 but why not? What is the reason for such a lens not being made?

The price will be brought down only after we have more players on the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you are only going to shoot with the kit lens, you would be better off with one of the more advanced point and shoot systems that are out there.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have an advanced point and shoot camera (Panasonic FZ18) already even though I don&#8217;t understand why they call it point and shoot as it has full manual controls. I am also not a point and shoot user as well. I set everything manually in 99% ot my pictures. Most of my pictures are made while travelling (mostly tourist shots) and I like the relatively small size and weight combined with a very versatile lens that I have currently. I am also aware of the limitations that my current camera has:<br />
1) Limited resolution, lots of detail smearing and interpolation (bad for landscapes)<br />
2) Poor dynamic range (crucial for landscapes)<br />
3) Poor high ISO performance (no good indoor pictures)<br />
4) Slow focus (impossible to take pictured of my fast-moving kid)<br />
5) Small sensor means less background defocus (bokeh), which means less expressive portraits.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to invest in a DSLR system as it will be too heavy for travelling. I know many people do it, but that&#8217;s just not my style.</p>
<p>I have analysed my needs and I figured that the ideal camera setup for me would be (Olympus and Panasonic take notes, please):</p>
<p>Camera:<br />
1) The size and looks of a black E-P2<br />
2) In-body IS<br />
3) Built-in EVF and flash<br />
4) The focus speed of GF1/GH1!!!<br />
5) Dynamic range of E-P1/2<br />
6) Out-of-camera JPEG quality of E-P1/2</p>
<p>Lenses:<br />
7) Panasonic&#8217;s 20mm/1.7 for low light and portraits<br />
 <img src='http://www.43rumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> An universal all-in-one travel lens with deceent quality and range 12-120mm (24-240mm equiv)</p>
<p>Price:<br />
- Micro 4/3 is about simplicity and is supposed to make the lenses smaller and cheaper to produce. So the price should not be much different than an equivalent entry-level DSLR system. I quickly checked on the B&amp;H website and it looks that Nikon D3000 + 18-200 VR II + 50/1.8 in total is less than $1469! A similar M4/3 combination should cost less to produce. I would gladly pay ~$1000 for a kit like GH1 + 14-140mm</p>
<p>I think the easiest will be to meet my camera body requirements. All it takes is that Olympus take advantage of the EXISTING fast focus technology of GF1 and put it in their next model. It is as simple as that.</p>
<p>I know I am pushing it with my lens wish for a 12-120 but why not? What is the reason for such a lens not being made?</p>
<p>The price will be brought down only after we have more players on the market.</p>
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