(FT3) Olympus E-50 coming soon???
Now that’s a surprise! I finally got a Four Thirds (not Micro FT) rumor from a known source 
He contacted me to say that Olympus developed a new E-50 camera. He didn’t share any details but he said it will be on market within the next couple of months. As you might remember the ex-chief from Olympus Watanabe already stated that Olympus will continue to develop single and double digit Four Thirds cameras. The E-50 will replace the current Olympus E-30. At least that would be a concrete sign that Four Thirds is still alive!
Click those links to see the current E-30 price and availability: Amazon, Adorama, B&H, J&R, eBay.
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Pablo
10 months ago |Great, but with their antique sensor technology, they can compete only against other 4/3 cameras :>
Boot
10 months ago |LOL
mpgxsvcd
10 months ago |Alive and on life support are two totally different things.
Droboe
10 months ago |Agreed, the reason why I abandoned 43rds ship to K5… Still on the m43 camp, though.
peter
10 months ago |do you really think, they will put the sensor from the E-510 inside???
43 is a very good system for most of us, if you like to enjoy your pictures more to impress your neighbour!!!
i am selling wery expansive rucksacks and sleeping bags and matresses every day – to costumer who carry a fat APS or even FX kamera and like to save 50 gramms on tents or bags, that´s really stupig. and most of then aro not profs, but look their pictures only on pc-monitor or beamer or other 2mp presenters
Per
10 months ago |YIHAAAAA!!! Sign me up for one.
Mike
10 months ago |Me too – if it’s cheaper than the E-5. The E-30 had the same streetprice as the E-3…
pici_mile
10 months ago |It makes sense if they have new sensor… otherwise,nonsense to stick same OLD sensors as in e-30 with some “tweaked” processing pipeline.
Joel
10 months ago |16mp from g3 would be nice… might even tempt me back to make better use of my 150/2 and 50/2. They look strange and are hard to use with adapters on u4/3…
Martin
10 months ago |I want a small 43 DSLR with live view, IS, reasoanble good viewfinder, fast AF, a good swivel LCD screen and video that I can afford.
The 12MP sensor ist fine for me, I’m not into the pixel peeping buisiness.
I still use the E-1, because so far no DSLR does offer what I want.
Anonymous
3 months ago |Made long time ago.
E620
Tripp
10 months ago |This would be great, I believe the E-30 has the ideal size for a DSRL. However, if the sensor is the same as the one used now for the m43 line, I will wait for the next generation.
Terry-M
10 months ago |Finally, some good news!!!
Agrivar
10 months ago |I hope they take the 16 mpx panny sensor. That with trupic vi. Would make a good cam.
Rob
10 months ago |I would love one, too! Please make it happen
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sneye
10 months ago |Blimey! The return of the living dead (my E-5 is doing just fine, thanks for asking).
delphy
7 months ago |hola ,perdona que le moleste ,soy nuevo en el foro,y he visto que tiene una e5 de olympus ,yo estoy por comprar esa camara ,tengo la e510,y quiero comprar la e5 dicen que da buenas fotos y calidad de imagen tambien quiero comprar el zuiko 50-200 swd,para tener un buen equipo ha se me olvidaba tengo el 12-60 tambien ,cre usted que hago buena compra.gracia por atenderme,
Ulli
10 months ago |FT gettin kicked alive again, this is good news indeed, especially if Olympus contineous with new releases…. E-5, E-50….what’s next?
Duarte Bruno
10 months ago |E-710 of course, featuring the new and wonderful sensor from the E-P3…
New doors of DR limitations will open…
(edit) Oh wait, I meant old doors!
Ulli
10 months ago |a new three digit model? I wonder…maybe they better stick to the one/two digit series?
Beomagi
10 months ago |The E-620 was pretty well regarded. Smallest DSLR with IS.
Anonymous
10 months ago |I’d rather take an e-550 please
Olympius
10 months ago |Count me in for an E-550 too. The 500 series cameras were some of the best DSLR’s ever made; the E-510 body style is darn near perfect–second only to the E-1, and even superior to the E-1 in some ways.
But it will never happen. Once people realize how far superior an Olympus DSLR is for taking still photos, they’ll stop buying Pens.
Olympius
napalm
10 months ago |+1 still a E-500 user here. that camera just hits the sweet spot
black_night
10 months ago |The best sensor oly ever have/except for high ISO/
cL
10 months ago |I like E-5xx body also.
My E-620 is a little prettier (and newer technologies inside), but E-5xx cameras feel better in hand. Maybe they can make something in between? In any case, if E-50 is something like that, perhaps a little bigger to accommodate the larger penta prism that E-xx has (which many considered to be quite excellent), then I am on board. And of course, that spirit level…. That’s the only thing I can think of that my E-620 doesn’t have, but it’s there in E-30. And like another person said, I want that dedicated mode dial (and I want IS button also, which is also missing on E-5).
Abi
10 months ago |I bet this will be the old 12mp sensor… again!
mario_lem73
10 months ago |99% sure
Sören
10 months ago |I count them back alive when they introduce new FT-lenses. Developing new bodys is just recycling of Pen-technology. Still, we are waiting for the 100mm Macro that was on the roadmap for years… especially now that Sigma doesn’t produce their macro lenses for FT anymore.
Jarkko
10 months ago |Great news. I hope it as good as the E-5. No mo pixels needed (this is NOT Full Frame sosiety) but a tune-up like E-5. I have E-3 and might be interested in E-50 if it still have the turntable mode knob (like E-420 and Canon S95 have) – the E-3 and E-5 are missing that.
My ‘second’ camera could do without water proofing….
Milos Janata
10 months ago |They just need about 2-3 stops ISO improvement and everything will be fine
sneye
10 months ago |2-3 stops? Do you shoot in coal mines?
Milos Janata
10 months ago |I need something for dances and live venues. It’s usually in very low light, flash is distracting. Video would be also nice.
What ISO do You consider to be clean on E-30 during low light? I am not talking about bright day:]
My guess is like ISO 500. So 2 stops improvement = ISO 2000, 3 stops = ISO 4000.
Do I have right to demand this?
sneye
10 months ago |Define “clean”. The E-5 is quite good at ISO1600 and useable at ISO2500.
Milos Janata
10 months ago |Since I don’t print… thinking about nice pictures viewed on FullHD screen
maybe 1.5 stop is more real
cL
10 months ago |A usable ISO 1600 can do a lot of things already. I often shoot at museums and ISO 800 is good enough for most parts, but of course, dances and music venues probably are darker. I think either way you’re better off with large aperture than rely on high ISO. I don’t like high ISO…. Too painful to look at my crafted photos being destroyed by noises.
Raist
10 months ago |Clean like good smooth shadows at ISO 200 (the E-5 even has some noise at ISO 200 in the shadows). Clean like quite good at ISO 6400, usable at ISO 25600.
What you mentioned is E-3 performance.
Alan
10 months ago |I agree. The ISO200 noise on the E5 and EPL2 drives me nuts. The E3 ISO100 was perfect and that’s how I like it.
Olympius
10 months ago |You ever heard of the Nikon D700 or Canon 5D? If you take photos in dark places, those are the only cameras that deliver the goods. The Pentax K-5 could also work nicely under those conditions.
Panasonic and Olympus make the worst low-light cameras in the digital realm. Anyone looking for high ISO performance needs to look elsewhere.
However….
I’d like two or three stops of DR improvement, but that usually is a function of high ISO anyway. Perhaps I should take my own advice…
Olympius
Nathan
10 months ago |How low is low light? I have taken quite a few keepers at ISO 800 with the E-30.
ISO 500 is 400 plus some digital exposure compensation. The only real gain settings are 200,400,800,1600. Even 3200 is just 1600 mathematically doubled. I don’t use any of the other sensitivity settings because I don’t feel like having my noise floor doubled digitally.
The amplifier stage I find to be low in noise when used properly. The 4/3 system does require a bit of knowledge to use properly because of its limitations when compared to a 135 sensor. There are some shots that are just not going to give good results on 4/3 or APS-C no matter what, and you have to avoid attempting those shots on those cameras. The D700 is a good choice for low-light shots. Even the D5100 with its larger sensor will show noise in RAW shots taken above ISO 800, and that may destroy detail. Because of the weight of the lenses, though, the D700 stays in the studio much of the time.
Milos Janata
10 months ago |Olympius,Nathan True, I am dreaming. What really pulled me here was GH2 and it’s video capability.
Priority no.1 is High iso for me. but budget is low:]
cL
10 months ago |There is always give and take, so Nathan and Olympius are right. If you want really small camera, then you go after m4/3. 4/3 is larger but better quality all around. If high ISO is what you’re looking for, then only way is get larger sensor cameras. APS-C isn’t going to do much better. You need full frame. 4/3 is very capable to do many other things, just not high ISO. DR problem is not as severe as other people make it out to be, if you know how to shoot under a certain lighting (it requires user judgement, so don’t expect you can shoot a high dynamic situation without doing some backlight compensation thinking).
PDiaz
10 months ago |I took your advice and sold my E 30 for a K5. Now I can’t believe the resolution I am getting and pictures at ISO 3200 and 6400 are a dream compared to my 43rd cameras. Granted, I still love my L1 and EP2, for the colors and the lenses, but the ISO is really an issue now that I own an APSC camera of this caliber.
Dummy00001
10 months ago |One Irish pub I know bears some striking resemblance.
Anonymous
10 months ago |Buy good lenses and boom you have 1 stop there. Take your flr50 flash put a bounce card in front of it spin it around and boom you have another stop and it looks professional unlike using a 5d with no flash and everybody has racoon eyes. Using available light is only good when the available light is good light. Pleas photographers stop shooting like soccer moms and learn how to photograph
mario_lem73
10 months ago |I hope that they can cleanup their ISO200. After they stop using KODAK sensors didn’t see clear base ISO photo from them. All 100-400 looks like sanded …
Bu
10 months ago |I have the feeling that they are spreading themselves too thin across FT and MFT.
Anon
10 months ago |+1!!!!!!!
Nathan
10 months ago |Well, since I use an E-30, if there are significant improvements to DR and noise, they’ll get my business.
Anon
10 months ago |What a waster. A bunch of R&D and Mfg for the 43 people who actually still buy 43rds cameras!!
cL
10 months ago |If you think putting money where their loyal customers are is a waste, then maybe it’s a nice thing Olympus isn’t run by the similar brains like you….
Olympius
10 months ago |Finally, a rumor about Olympus that has got my attention…and it’s something other than the 4th iteration of the E-P1.
As far as I’m concerned, if all they did was stuff the electronics from the E-5 into the E-30 body, and called it an E-50, I’d be more than happy. Even better, get that new 16mp G3 sensor, combine it with a new True-Pic engine, and give Oly users a little something extra than 12mp.
I just don’t want to see that E-P3 sensor in an E-50…not impressed with the images samples I’ve seen, I think the E-PL2 takes better photos.
Also, I hope that Olympus realizes that the competition for the E-50 is the D5100 and T3i, not the 7D and D7000; which means they need to keep it at a price point between $900 to $1000 USD, not a penny higher.
I’ve been disappointed with Olympus too many times in the past couple of years, so I’m only cautiously optimistic about this rumor.
Perhaps they’ve come to the realization that if they want to sell cameras in the USA and Europe, they better make something Americans and Europeans want to buy, instead of these over-sized, over-priced point & shoots they keep shoving out the door.
Olympius
Ulli
10 months ago |So what do you think americans and europeans would buy?
Mike
10 months ago |Hm, I think most of the electronics is already in the E-30:
12MP Chip
Contrast AF
AF Finetuning
They could just change the AA-Filter and upgrade the firmware. If the price stays below 900$/€ it would be nice.
cL
10 months ago |Olympius
I am also okay if they stuff everything from E-5 to E-50, probably without weather sealing of course, which would just make it bigger and heavier and sold it at a lower price accordingly. I am not that rich to afford an E-5, so that sounds fine to me.
I don’t need extra mega pixels, but that’s because it really is on a very low priority need list for me. I’ve shot quite a few nice 12MP photos and because is 4×3 aspect ratio, I really don’t need that many more megapixels for a 8×10 or 11×14 prints.
One stop DR improvement is welcome, but not necessary. I just use the nice live histogram and most of the HDR situation can tamed. Higher quality LCD/OLED screen is more important than DR performance for me because of that. If you can see from the LCD screen it’s not going to work out no matter what, then don’t shoot…. Wait for another time. Force oneself to shoot in a bad lighting is not going to work no matter which camera you have anyways…. It could only make it “more tolerable” but never good enough for show, so why waste your time? Shoot from another angle, use a fill flash, spot meter using Zone System, gradient ND filter, what have you…. All these are more fundamental fixes than rely on the sensor. Even pros with the best cameras around still need to learn all these techniques anyways.
As for price, I think you’re right on. Except Nikon D5100 has come to a point where its size is very close to E-620 now…. Obviously the advantage for 4/3 here is lens size, not body size. But in term of performance it’s very close to Nikon D5100, though I’ve shot photos that meet the IQ of D300, but that’s another issue…. That’s not your typical consumers would perceive (nor they are likely to use higher-end lenses that allowed me to do that), so you’re right that they need to sell it at $900 range. Actually E-30 used to sell around $899 last Christmas…, $300 lower than E-3 (before E-5 was released). So maybe in your place E-30 is more expensive…, but I thought $899 was reasonable for E-30 and I hope E-50 would sell around the same price. But after the quake…, everything is more expensive…. SHG lenses are like 30% more expensive than before….
noons
10 months ago |I think they just need to release a 12-60 mk II or 50-200 mk II with cdaf along with this new (hopefully true) camera.
Boooo!
10 months ago |CDAF and SWD are mutually exclusive. You can have one or the other.
Mike
10 months ago |But why? The Leica 14-150 has an ultrasonic motor AND is CD-AF compatible
Boooo!
10 months ago |That’s because SWD isn’t Panasonic’s XSM
SWD is mechanically coupled with the focus ring, XSM is not. As far as I know, you can’t physically have mechanical coupling – which is what makes the 12-60 and the 50-200 such a joy to use – and CDAF. Too much of a difference in motor types and gear mechanisms.
Mike
10 months ago |Really? The SWD models have no Focus-by-wire? I want one!
Neonart
10 months ago |Correct. At least the 12-60 and 50-200 have mechanically coupled manual focus rings. They are not drive-by-wire. I assume the 14-35 f2 does too.
cL
10 months ago |SWD can be both! BUT (here is the big but), if you want the super fast CDAF performance, you’re better off with Zuiko 14-54mm MK II, which has High Speed Imager Auto Focus, which is specifically designed for CDAF performance. That’s the improvement over MK I of that lens (on top of rounded aperture diaphragm, so MK II wins over its predecessor hands down, grand slam, totally worth the price difference).
If you like mechanically coupled AF, SWD is the way to go. I would suggest you handle both AF system and see which one is more useful to you. If you shoot with LCD screen a lot, then you’re better off with Zuiko 14-54mm MK II and you’ll feel the difference in speed. SWD is for PDAF and full time MF override, so yes, SWD though a AF system, is better for people who like MF (isn’t that weird?). There is no mirror slap when do HS Imager AF because it’s designed specifically for CDAF and LiveView shooting.
Yes, Olympus cameras are a little complicated (way too many features) and Olympus really needs to make prospective buyers know about the advantage of every AF system Olympus has, because very often people are asking for stuff Olympus DSLRs can already do! They just don’t know how, because Olympus never really did a wonderful job at marketing their cameras….
Esa Tuunanen
10 months ago |Ultrasonic motor is ultrasonic motor regardless what marketing name is stamped onto box.
And ultrasonic ring motors completely lack gearing associated with ordinary motors which is other reason for them being so much quieter:
http://www.photoscene.com/sw/tour/inside.htm
screwy
10 months ago |The 12.3MP sensor is already overused, they really need to get one of those 15MP or something else. I imagine this will be mirrorless and give much more functional video capability than E-5. In fact just now I was daydreaming of 3 new lenses- 100/2.8 macro, 400/4.5 and a cdaf zoom for video range. But that’s like shooting the moon.
The point of this new camera is probably to give E-P3 in the body of a DSLR and keep the noisy 4/3 people quiet.
sneye
10 months ago |What gives you the impression this camera will be mirrorless?
Boooo!
10 months ago |YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
*orgasms*
YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!
Enough with the toys, let’s have some real cameras now!
Franco Buttiglieri
10 months ago |That’s great!!!
I hope to see at least a new 4/3 camera for year!!!
Anyway I would be more interested in a “E-650″ or E-460, little DSLR with IS.
mountainwalker
10 months ago |Sensor features seem to be overestimated here. I have made really nice photos using my E-30 so I cannot understand people complaining about sensor quality in Olympus cameras. OK, sometimes I use NoiseNinja standalone edition. If you really need more details, feel free to buy a Hasselblad but don’t blame Olympus.
Ulli
10 months ago |+1
The complaining about sticking with older sensor is a sign of wanting-to-keep up-with-the-trend. I consider myself as a person who is critial enough regarding to output of a digital camera, but when i look back at the files of my Canon EOS D2000, i can’t see any progress in IQ in the cameras that i used after that one, only more resolution thanks to the mp ever increasing, which were not really adding any quality to the kind of shooting i do (portrait/model). The only evolution i see is the more advanced processing with every generation change.
bilgy_no1
10 months ago |There are still many people out there with an E-620/E-30 or even E-520 that have invested in HG lenses like the 14-54, 50-200, 50 macro, 11-22. All these are excellent lenses with great performance/price ratios. Consider that the 50-200 is in the same price bracket as the m.ZD 75-300, but that it’s significantly faster and sharp wide open. Fast standard lens? Excellent macro? Nothing similar on offer in Olympus m4/3 line-up yet.
These lenses don’t work properly on the PENs: AF is slow to sluggish, and they are too big for the camera bodies for comfortable use. Ergo, Olympus should take care of their existing 4/3 customers and offer them something viable to keep using their lenses. The E-5 works, but is way too expensive for many of the people that originally bought an E-30 or E-620.
This E-50 would not be the thing to get for new customers, although if you’re looking at great 400mm (FF eq.) performance, I doubt you could do better in another system: 70-200mm Canons/Nikons cost almost double the price (yes, they are constant f/2.8 instead of 2.8-3.5, but otoh they are only 300mm eq. unless you crop). So, if the price is around €1000, it could still be an excellent deal for amateur birders/wildlife lovers etc.
If Olympus use the new 16MP sensor in this E-50, they help some of their customers ahead for years to come… And of course, Olympus have done research to establish that there’s a viable market for this product.
Boooo!
10 months ago |Consider that the 12mm m4/3 prime is $800, and the 12-60 4/3 is $899 in the USA. Why the hell would you buy that prime instead of the best standard zoom ever made?
Ulli
10 months ago |if you mostly think in wideangle or want a compact setup, then it makes little sense to buy such a zoom right?
Agent00soul
10 months ago |The 12 mm is f/2.0, whereas the 12-60 is 2.8 at 12 mm. The 12-60 is an excellent lens (I have one) but I’m sure the 12/2.0 is optically better than the 12-60 at 12 mm.
Boooo!
10 months ago |It’s not.
1) The 12mm has the biggest vignetting of all (m)4/3 lenses ever produced, and on a sensor with slightly lower DR than the competition, that poses somewhat of a problem
2) The 12-60 is sharper than the 12mm
3) The 12mm has VERY visible distortion when shooting raw; it’s more easily fixed because the distortion on the 12-60 is more complex in nature, but on the other hand, it’s much, much less visible in real life situations. If you only shoot JPEG, then you won’t care, as the camera auto-corrects distortion.
4) Some early tests that I’ve seen indicate that the 12-60 has better micro-contrast
Overall, the 12mm has two advantages over the 12-60:
1) It’s a stop faster
2) It’s much smaller
And that’s it. Nothing else. The PEN cameras are JPEG cameras and the m4/3 lenses are designed for auto-corrected JPEG output, having optically worse properties than 4/3 lenses.
The current m4/3 cameras cannot support quality glass. They’re too small for the weight. That’s why it’s important for Olympus to continue with the 4/3 system, until they are ready to venture beyond pocketable cameras and produce something with the bulk and the weight of an E-3/5, but mirrorless, and until that camera can focus existing 4/3 lenses well.
Olympius
10 months ago |One idea for an Olympus DSLR that I’d like to see (but will never happen) is for Olympus to get the new 24mp sensor from Sony, drop it in a 4/3 body, and call it a 18mp “multi-aspect” sensor, much like what Panny does with the GH series.
The only problem is that you would need an EVF for that to be truly useful for a photographer, but I have no problems with a mirrorless regular 4/3 camera if that means increased capabilities over what we currently have.
Basically, it would be competition for Sony’s own SLT line.
Just a goofy thought I had, no doubt it will never happen.
Olympius
cL
10 months ago |The Sony 24mp sensor is full frame…. If I wanted that, I would have bought Sony A850 already…. 24MP is a hard disk drive hog. Most people who bought such camera complained it’s something they never thought about until they bought it. Every single of your photos would take up lots of disk space, even those family gathering photos that don’t need that kind of MP…. You’d just end up spending lots of your spare time downsize your photos to 3MP for those non-art photos. (pros have a second camera for that kind of photos).
Frederick Hew
10 months ago |Sony is developing a 24 MP APS-C sensor. The upcoming Nex 7 will have it.
Actually Olympius’ post makes tons of sense. This would allow for about 14.6 MP for 4/3 aspect ratio, and 15.8 MP when shooting 1×1. Maybe a bit less – I am assuming the light circle projected by ZD lenses can contain a 15.6 x 15.6 frame.
The question is how good will this sensor be – my hunch is that it would offer a 1.5 stop sensitivity and at least as much DR improvement over the current Panasonic technology.
cL
10 months ago |People are complaining about 12MP’s DR already, and what makes a 24MP usable in an APS-C? 12MP on 4/3 sensor = 16MP on APS-C in term of pixel density, so 24MP is actually a major step down when compared with 4/3. No wonder they’re going use it on NEX-7, a consumer-oriented camera…. It’ll only drive up disk drive sales….
Frederick Hew
10 months ago |Strongly disagree.
These are the correct numbers in my opinion. I am keeping the sensor density and multiplying by surface area ratio:
225 sqmm / 368 sqmm * 16 MP = 9.8 MP
225 sqmm / 368 sqmm * 24 MP = 15.8 MP
In the past 2 sensor generations at least, Sony and cannon have been able to push sensor density while improving sensitivity and DR, or at least keeping it intact, this applies to both their FF and APS-C sensors.
More pixels also means less noise as when the image is downsampled (which is basically what our eyes are doing unless you are using a magnifying glass) the noise SD becomes smaller.
I have no doubt Sony will come up with a great sensor, they’re the current market leaders.
cL
10 months ago |Downsampled, now that’s the keyword. When you downsample, you lose the ability to print large photos, which is some of us requires. When I shoot with 12MP, I want the full 12 megapixels of quality, not downsampled to 5MP or something. If I wanted that, I could have bought a 5MP camera, which produces cleaner IQ pixel per pixel, given the sensor size is the same (because of lower pixel density). Anybody with limited photography skill can produce a clean photo when they downsample…. Why do you even care about High ISO noise when you want to shoot like that? ISO 3200 from existing 4/3 sensors are already capable of producing very good photos if you just shrink the size….
When you talk about improving sensitivity, what are you measuring with? I didn’t choose Canon for the reason the image was really noisy…. Native NR is extremely aggressive, because the photos would be unusably noisy when NR is turned off (we are talking about APS-C sensor here). And when NR is turned on, photo is devoid of detail…. Haven’t you seen way too many photos on Flickr shot with Canon low-end cameras that are just very “soft?” That should tell you the NR is too high. And the reason NR needs to be high is because the camera is incapable of getting enough light, either the lens is lousy or sensor is not very sensitive.
Frederick Hew
10 months ago |I’m thinking about the performance of the Canon D7, Nikon D7000 and Pentax K-5 in smaller format (multiple format options covering the ZD lenses image circle) with somewhat less resolution but the same IQ.
I don’t believe Olympus will deliver this, but I think it could work beautifully.
By downsampling I wanted to say that at normal viewing conditions this is higher resolution that what your eyes deliver. Add pixels while keeping the same noise level and the will be perceived as cleaner as well as more detailed (assuming the lens is good for it).
cL
10 months ago |Don’t say you don’t believe Olympus cannot deliver the result, because it’s not an argument. Use fact as proof. Just try it. Borrow one from friends or rent one and see for yourself. There are always pros who can shoot wonderful photos no matter which cameras they use, but it is you who is going to use the camera, so you have to see if you can shoot good photos with a certain brand or not. Like I mentioned before, my photos from E-620 are just as good (if not better) than those who shot high end APS-C cameras.
Downsample…, any modern digital camera (even P&S) can downsample and get good result (if we are talking about noise. low end lenses would give more visual defect like geometric distortion and CA, but noise is something can be rid off with down sampling). So if that’s your shooting style, don’t spend too much money on high-end camera and lenses. That really is a waste of money.
amalric
10 months ago |Frankly one should consider that 4/3 bodies are just lifebuoys to keep selling lenses that were created in another era. There’s no progress at all in 4/3 like there is in Micro.
I wish that this site went entirely mirrorless so we could avoid the sad show of 4/3 trolls, dedicated to ruining anything else (‘toys’!) that is not their dSLR dinosaurs.
Mike
10 months ago |You know the site is for FourThirds? You want to go here: http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/
Boooo!
10 months ago |Go away, you mirrorless troll without any good lenses.
Olympius
10 months ago |You are preaching to the wrong crowd here Amalric…what you need to be doing is signing up for accounts on all those Nikon and Canon forums, and tell THEM how the DSLR is just a “lifebuoy” for selling old lenses. I’m certain they’d appreciate your insight, and sell all their silly FX and DX cameras, and pick up E-PL3′s instead.
Olympius
napalm
10 months ago |wow… 4/3 users suddenly became trolls here? in 43rumors.com site?!
Dummy00001
10 months ago |> Frankly one should consider that 4/3 bodies are just lifebuoys to keep selling lenses that were created in another era.
Rather uninformed trolling.
Good 43 lenses right now are very very hard to come by and most of them either refurb or second hand. With prices often matching the MSRP. Ouch.
IOW, Oly stopped producing the 43 lenses and makes literally no profits from them.
Tropical Yeti
10 months ago |Well, 4/3DSLR rumors is, what I am reading this site for. Finally something, hope it is true.
What would be most sensible in my thinking is this:
- E-50 sucessor (with updated feature set, video included)
- Would be sensible to make it somewhat smaller, E-510 size and ergonomics, but slightly more robust built. Keep older IS unit, which is much better than new one, used in PENs
- Sensor – whatever they have now, (even E-5 12MP sensor/processor would be quite improvement against existing 4/3 bodies, at least resolution and noise wise). If they have more, even better.
I know 100mm macro is promised for long time, and people are also asking for primes (wide and tele).
What would make sense for me is 35-100/2.8 (FF) equivalent high grade lens. Should be posible to make it just slightly bigger than 12-60 lens. Would be ideal for hiking, traveling, together with smallish robust body.
F2.0 version is simply too big and clumsy to be carried around on hikes, 50-200/2.8-3.5 is excellent but very heavy too. Smallish 40-150 is what I use now, but would like to have something more robust.
Martin
10 months ago |> – E-50 sucessor (with updated feature set, video included)
You mean E-30 successor. Sounds plausible.
> – Would be sensible to make it somewhat smaller, E-510 size and ergonomics, but slightly more robust built.
If it is an E-30 successor, it will have the same body. By downsizing, you would lose the acceptable E-30 VF and probably other features as well. Also, Olympus would not probably invest in another different DSLR body.
> – Sensor – whatever they have now, (even E-5 12MP sensor/processor would be quite improvement against existing 4/3 bodies, at least resolution and noise wise)
The E-5 sensor is the E-30 sensor with modified AA filter and circuitry.
As for new FT lenses, well, they are a pipe-dream IMO. Olympus just needs a new body so that people could buy the old lenses again, nothing more, nothing less.
amalric
10 months ago |According to what ADMIN said in a recent post, this site is only a subset of the Mirrorless site.
So dSLR owners logically should be tolerated only if they show respect to other users, otherwise the owners should do well to create yet another forum that is not part of the Mirrorless site
napalm
10 months ago |what are you talking about. it is admin who posted the E-50 rumor. you mean he’s trolling also? LOL
amalric
10 months ago |Indeed I think it is a poor idea not to separate sites more clearly.
Probably creating a separate forum would not guarantee enough traffic, so dSLR beggars are tolerated in a Mirorrless site as a source of possible income.
Very unsatisfactory situation. Wouldn’t you rather huddle together at the childrens’ table and let us adults discuss about adult matters?
napalm
10 months ago |i think it is you who dont get it. this site started for 4/3 bodies. when Oly/Pany concentrated on m4/3, that became the usual rumors not because the site was being dedicated to mirrorless, but because we dont have much 4/3 bodies.
mirrolessrumors came about when other manufacturers came out with their mirrorless cams. admin said this is a subset of that site meaning mirrorless is a broader market now and not just Oly and Pany. it’s not the other way around.
Elf
10 months ago |Someone indirectly referred to your Faux Rangefinder as a toy….. and this is your adult response.
Awful lonely at your table.
Like many of the informed adults participating on ths site I own and use both 4/3 dslr’s and micro 4/3. As an Oly fanboy I’m sure you’d like all those Panasonic people to go away too.
Now hold your breath till you turn blue.
Martin
10 months ago |> So dSLR owners logically should be tolerated only if they show respect to other users,
And YOU should show some respect to those who do not share your vision.
Mr. Reeee
10 months ago |+10
mahler
10 months ago |-10
No problem, when other Olympus gear is discussed here, since the site is for the 4/3 system originally.
You should rather drink a bit of tolerance for yourself, instead of starting one of this silly and superfluous “troll discussions” (or something similar) again. We don’t need this and we don’t need separate discussion platforms for every special stuff.
cL
10 months ago |I believe this is the mother site of mirrorless. I still remember when ADMIN made the announcement when mirrorless forum was created.
Patrick
10 months ago |A lot of comments seem to assume it will be again 12mega pixel
As a reminder, the 12 megapixel was introduced with the E-30. CAN ANYONE REASONABLE ASSUME THAT THIS CAMERA WILL HERALD A NEW GENERATION OF SENSORS?
If so, what would be your dream 4/3 sensor?
Thanks
Martin
10 months ago |> As a reminder, the 12 megapixel was introduced with the E-30. CAN ANYONE REASONABLE ASSUME…snip
No. Just lunatics
Seriously, G3 sensor could be a possibility, maybe..
bilgy_no1
10 months ago |Yes, the 12MP sensor was introduced with the E-30, and it compared quite favourably to the D300 and 50D at that time. By now, the E-P3 still uses the same sensor and actually compares quite well (at least up to ISO1600) to much newer APS-C sensors such as in the NEX-5 or the D5100 or 600D. Maybe we’re all getting a bit too excited about sensors???
Still, I would very much like to see Olympus starting to use the new 16MP Panasonic sensor, or something else that finally ends all this talk about sensors…
bilgy_no1
10 months ago |Are Olympus updating the wrong body with the E-50? Here’s what DPReview had to say about it:
Price aside, there’s a lot to recommend the E-30. I really enjoyed the two months I spent with it, and was constantly impressed by the output under ISO 800. It’s a fantastic upgrade for E-420/E-520 users, and it’s the best Four Thirds camera we’ve seen to date (though the E-620 is looking like a close contender). What I struggled with was a killer argument for anyone not currently invested in the E system to choose it over any other camera in this price range. Whereas the E-620 represents, for us, everything that’s great about Four Thirds; packing a huge feature set into a tiny body, the bulkier E-30 has to work a little harder, and to rely on its unique ‘in camera creativity’ features to make it stand out in the hugely competitive mid-range market.”"
They preferred the E-620, because it packed much of the same features (viewfinder aside) in a more compact and cheaper body. Much more competitive with other offerings in the market. Anyway, just a thought. Of course, if Olympus are targeting invested 4/3 owners with this camera, they should try to go for the highest possible level where people start upgrading…
Martin
10 months ago |> They preferred the E-620, because it packed much of the same features (viewfinder aside) in a more compact and cheaper body.
It’s not only the VF. Also a much better AF system, a much better IS system… Just to point out some features that also probably contribute to the size difference between E-620 and E-30.
Nathan
10 months ago |The E-620 has less sensitive AF sensors, a dimmer, smaller viewfinder, slower shooting speed, smaller buffer, less stabilization, and balances poorly with large lenses.
In addition, it has a slower max shutter speed, slower flash synchronization, lacks dual control wheels, pc synch, and many more things.
The E-30 is not in the same league with the E-620 at all. The E-30 is useful at the professional or semi-pro level, where the E-620 is not.
Some people may write about cameras for a living, but anyone saying the E-620 is functionally interchangeable with the E-30 is like someone saying that the EOS Rebel is basically the same as the 60D.
It’s just the kind of silly thing that people who’ve never used a camera professionally say. Sure, in a pinch, you can use those cameras, but the experience will be one of shoehorning a poor tool into a desperate situation, stressful and unpleasant.
bars2k
10 months ago |Excellent news. The main thing that really continued to develop the 4/3.
amalric
10 months ago |Well you can die out of nostalgia, but I had a 620, and it was very noisy at base ISO, and unsharp due to the strong AA filter. It also had a /very/ noisy shutter, and except the 25/2.8, no pancakes to speak of.
Compared to LiveView now and the present EVF, the viewing experience was a joke.
CDAF speed might now be even better than the 620 PDAF speed. That is why I say that technological progress is elsewhere. I understand people who own expensive 4/3 lenses, but the system itself is becoming a legacy system, bulky, expensive and with not much use except very niche applications.
Martin
10 months ago |> CDAF speed might now be even better than the 620 PDAF speed. That is why I say that technological progress is elsewhere. I understand people who own expensive 4/3 lenses, but the system itself is becoming a legacy system, bulky, expensive and with not much use except very niche applications.
With that I would partially agree. What is still missing from m4/3, though, are brighter zooms. But those won’t be much smaller than the HG FT counterparts. Let’s see how it will turn out.
mahler
10 months ago |+1
It is certainly not worth to continue the E-xxx series, if they can’t come up with better (larger) view finders. m4/3 allows the combination of small bodies and large finder images, because the drop of the mirror box allows more construction possibilities. Olympus shows this with the external view finder VF-2 and Panasonic with their build-in EVFs. Both provide large, bright, and high-resolution finder images.
The EVF technology will inevitably advance so that rather sooner than later, the remaining advantages of even the better OVFs on the market (not at the E-xxx cameras) will disappear.
Thus, at least body concepts as the E-xxx series, make no sense anymore.
JeremyT
10 months ago |I still shoot with my E-620 when I use SWD lenses – an upgrade path could be intriguing. I was really hoping that Olympus would make SWD lenses focus properly on µ4/3 bodies, but it seems that’s not in the cards, so news of a new DSLR is still interesting to me.
It seems to me though that the timing is all wrong here. Seeing as how the E-5′s sensor was nearly outdated when it hit the streets, re-using that on an E-50 would make that body look very outdated indeed. On the other hand, if they were to update the E-50 sensor, where does that leave the E-5?
I have a lot of trouble imagining that people would buy a worse-sensor E-5 over a better-sensor E-50 just for the handling and construction.
If anything, a xxx-series with the E-5 sensor might have made more sense. I just don’t think you can sell a brand new mid-range body with that same old sensor at this point and expect people to swallow the price tag.
john
10 months ago |isn’t that what they did with the E-3? put a 10 mp sensor in it then came out with the E-30 and put a 12 mp in it? i’d be interested in seeing how this shakes out.
Ross
10 months ago |If they put a higher resolution sensor into an E50, I can’t see it being hugely better than the E5 but would be a good test bed model for a new sensor as the E30 was. I would expect the same display on the E50 as the E5 but that might not be & instead be a 620,000 dot display & if a higher MP sensor is used the memory buffer may not be increased lowering the buffering capabilities (as the E30 was compared to the E3). The other features that were less on the E30 (e.g. My Mode X 2 instead of X 4) than the E3 may well be similarly done with an E50. Hopefully the Art Filters can be applied the same as the E5 though. Video of course would be added & other new features would be welcome too, although the E30 is a very capable camera. I would also like to see the Preview Button (on the front) have the same progammability as the E5.
I hope it has enough to keep us interested in adding more 4/3s lenses to our kit.
Ross
10 months ago |“I still shoot with my E-620 when I use SWD lenses – an upgrade path could be intriguing. I was really hoping that Olympus would make SWD lenses focus properly on µ4/3 bodies, but it seems that’s not in the cards, so news of a new DSLR is still interesting to me.”
Maybe an E620 upgrade with an EVF as in this patent might be what you can hope for.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7889268.pdf
furb
10 months ago |I wonder what version of TruePic it would use. TruePic V+ or VI or ?
Steve H
10 months ago |Maybe they’ll do what they should have done with the E-5? My wish list:
- 16 mp sensor OR significantly better DR. Both would be awesome, but one or the other would be acceptable.
- 1080p video with a good codec and minimal moire/aliasing
- better CD-AF for video and some of the nifty focus tracking, touch focusing type features from the GH2
- wireless connectivity or, at the least, support for EyeFi cards. But integrated wifi or bluetooth would be awesome! It can’t be very expensive when every smart phone on the planet has it.
- iPhone and Android apps for time-lapse control and anything else they can think of.
Zsun
10 months ago |I just sold my E510 with the two kit lens. Felt a little sad and I rarely feel sad about selling my electronic stuff. The E510 was such a good camera and a perfect size and feel for me. However the tunnel-like OVF (even after I added the 1.2x magnification lens) was bothering me so much, especially after I got the pana G2 with the gorgeous EVF. I read the E620 was larger by much in the OVF. I wish they had chose to cut corner somewhere else instead of the OVF. I had thought I could get some good deal on 4/3 lens so I can keep both E510 and G2 (with adapter) but they are still as expensive if not more. In that case I will just shop for the m43 lens we currently have or wait for newer ones to be developed.
Frederick Hew
10 months ago |I have a few very good 4/3 lenses (11-22, 50/2, 25/1,4 and an adapted OM 90/2) so this might make sense to me, possibly with a 50-200 to complement my kit.
On the other hand would I not be better off selling those lenses and using the money to upgrade to a newer m4/3 body instead of the G1, as well as a few lenses (12mm or 7-14, 25mm, 45mm and possibly one of the tele zooms)?
Investing in 4/3 would allow me make the best of the lenses I currently have (and might in fact be cheaper than going m/3 all the way) but will I be throwing good money after bad?
Would appreciate your comments and advice!
bilgy_no1
10 months ago |that would depend on how badly you want to shoot the 50-200, I think. That is a killer lens, and a great pity the AF is so slow on m43.
You do have some great lenses, and would be pity having to build that up in a new system.
Jan Francois
10 months ago |Keep the Zuiko 90 2.0 and adapt it to whichever m4/3 body you decide to use. Thats a special lens, at least mine was
Frederick Hew
10 months ago |The 90/2 is adapted to 4/3 by means of the Olympus adapter (way too expensive, doesn’t have a chip allowing focus confirmation on DSLRs and focuses past infinity – but it does come in a nice box) and then to m4/3 by means of an additional adapter (still overpriced IMO).
I have to say I am getting better results from the 50/2 – it is sharper, has better contrast and does not suffer from flares and coma. That does not make the 90mm a bad lens, you can get good results from it but they require some processing. IMO it does not live up to its reputation.
Have you used the 90mm on film or digital? I suspect it was a better performer on OM cameras.
cL
10 months ago |Many of the film lenses do not live up to their reputation on digital for many reasons. Digital lenses are designed to be on digital platform, so they are corrected for those digital only defects. CA, for example, never really was a big problem in film photography, so film lenses usually aren’t corrected for those defects, but they’ll show up very well on digital camera. My suggestion is, don’t use a film lens unless there is a hole in the lens line up or the existing digital one is far inferior. I also noticed a lot of people mention the quality of adapter plays a major part on the final output (usually edge sharpness issue).
Jan Francois
10 months ago |Dblpst.
Frederick Hew
10 months ago |Strongly agree
My best lenses so far are the ZD and old 25/1.4
I read something about film being less reflective than digital sensors, and then film was surface activated while with digital the light has to reach the bottom of every well.
Oliver
10 months ago |I hope the future FourThirds bodies will have an accessory port, OLED display (or something better), and HD video recording.
What about their patented Single-Shot HDR?
That would seem nice.
Rick D
10 months ago |I’m ready, bring it forth, Oly! An enhanced E-30 is exactly what I need.
furb
10 months ago |that would be sweet if this e-50 would be as good as or better than the Panasonic GH2 / GH3. Assuming it would be mirror less. I hope it’s just not a stripped down version of the e-5. Maybe it could be a E-P3 in terms of specs but in a rugged body.
Alfons
10 months ago |Exciting to see if Olympus can introduce some new technology with the E-50.
Zune
10 months ago |Well i think E-50 is very like E-30 body, but same buton so on E-620 bake side, and sensor is 16mpx from G3.
and also same IQ so Pen Pro to.
Rob. S.
10 months ago |An E-50 with everything Olympus has achieved so far, minus the sealing of the E-5 – ok, that would probably actually convince me to buy one in the end.
But, even then, Four Thirds “alive”? Give me a break…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npjOSLCR2hE
Dummy00001
10 months ago |It’s not dead! It’s resting!! Remarkable plumage, isn’t it?
Ryan
10 months ago |Seeing as the E-30 has used some newer tech the E-3 didn’t have, I’m hoping the e-50 extends on that compared to the e-5…though I have my doubts Olympus will try that again.
SLOtographer
10 months ago |Dead? Alive? Maybe those are not the only choices. Oly can have a niche DSLR system that is profitable and keeps things going so long as OVFs and mirrors are still viable. Eventually DSLRs will become obsolete, but that is down the road. And whether or not a better technology exists, current DSLRs are quite good and will continue to work and produce beautiful images.
Film is not dead. It’s not mainstream, but it is still going. Oly 43rds can exist without being big.
What is the niche? Rugged cameras and lenses, Oly colors and clarity, and superbly designed zuiko lenses. All Oly would need to do is update some lenses (for better AF and possibly CDAF), get a new sensor (please!!), and add an AF assist light (come on!).
reverse stream swimmer
10 months ago |Olympus can exploit non-orthodox routes with a Four Thirds camera, since FT is not their mainstream any more. Also with an E-xx, it’s not a flagship either.
I therefore expect extra ordinary features, somewhat more towards an experiment rig of a camera. Hopefully it also will be apprecieted by all of us with FT lenses.
There’s no need for a sensor optimised for Contrast detect AF, unless Olympus wants to push the video with classical Four thirds lenses.
So come on Olympus, use this camera as a test bed for a new multi aspect ratio, high pixelrate sensor (~18 Mpix).
Zune
10 months ago |Yes why not, a multi aspect sensor, EVF and tranpsarent mirror.
Martin
10 months ago |> Yes why not, a multi aspect sensor, EVF and tranpsarent mirror.
You mean a semi-transparent mirror alla Sony? IMO it would appeal neither to DSLR owners nor to mFT people. And on top of that, the IQ would be worse due to the light loss..
Please Oly, be sensible!
cL
10 months ago |Yes, 30% loss of light is a lot. APS-C sensor can lose 30% of light and it’s still around 4/3 quality, but 4/3 can’t afford that light loss. So yes, I won’t like translucent mirror set up. That works for Sony, but you can’t use cookie cutter formula for everything. 4/3 has its own thing, and Sony has their own thing…. Don’t make everything a bleh, and miss their own unique character. 4/3 is all about those darn good Zuiko lenses!
I hope they’ll make a HG 17mm f2.8 (non pancake) though when they announce the rumored E-50. And hopefully an alternative to PL’s 25mm f/1.4. That one is too expensive, but Olympus needs one of that critical focal length, maybe a modified design from the legendary 21mm f/2 for OM?
Thomas S
10 months ago |I agree that 4/3 is all about those darn good Zuiko lenses! But part of the reason they are so darn good is the small sensor size (and a relatively large mount) which makes the construction of these lenses possible.
In my opinion, the sweet spot of 4/3 are the HG lenses (like the 12-60/2.8-4 or 50-200/2.8-3.5). Granted, the SHG’s are very nice, but they are the same size as the pro lenses of other manufacturers.
The only difference (and a big advantage IMO) is that you can upgrade to them without having to upgrade to a full frame body. How sexy is a 24-70/2.8 on an APS-C body?
Back on topic, I am looking forward to a possible E-50. For me, the E-30 is a near perfect camera. It just needs updated sensor/electronics. Why not take it from the current PENs, that would save a lot of RnD? I do hope that they put a new sensor in it, though. My hopes are up, because the E-30 was the first cam to have the 12mp sensor used by any Oly cam afterwards, so if they do not upgrade the sensor there is no need in upgrading the E-30. Of course, they could do the E-5 thing and put a new AA filter and TruePic engine in it. Given that the E-30 had a “better” sensor than the E-3, I am still hoping, though…
cL
10 months ago |I do prefer a new sensor, but not more than 12MP. If it’s 14MP, I can live with that (though I am afraid the ISO 200 performance might suffer), but if they put out a 16MP, I might as well just use an APS-C DSLR. Too much downgrade of IQ…. Many people here seem to be not too concern about IQ, but care more about number of pixels. Not all pixels are created equal!!! If you compose carefully, 12MP is enough. 2×3 aspect ratio means you have crop your photos all the time to fit into 8×10 or 11×14, so I like 4×3 aspect ratio better (for the most part, sometimes I do need 2×3 aspect ratio, but then my 35mm film cameras are handling those).
AA filter, my suggestion is… no AA filter. If you used Olympus’s software, you know you can rid off the AA filter in there, and the result is slightly noisier photo, but the detail is superb (probably better than Nikon’s cameras, ironically, more pixel density while killing DR and ISO performance, but provides extra detail, IF you shoot it with good lighting).
Inge-M
10 months ago |Olympus patent by transparent mirror, have normal mirror funtion in stail pictur, but is only like Sony in Live wiev and video, this lhigt go by mirror.
amalric
10 months ago |It’s nice to see this piece of classic 4/3 pride, however market stats say it differently. There isn’t much room for cameras that have less performance and the same bulk of other dSLR.
In fact FAST focus in Micro was the final nail in the coffin. And the demonstration is that not one so far has showed the intention of buying a new lens of the classic 4/3 type.
You can go deluding yourself and run for the oxygen line like some junkie, but classic 4/3 is a failed experiment in terms of sales and that’s all there is. Not an investment to be recommended ‘a capitulation’ as Mr. Terada, had it.
Enjoy a defeat of your own making.
Param
10 months ago |4/3 lenses are still selling, as is E5. 4/3 if far from dead
Ross
10 months ago |You can wallow in your self pity while the rest of us rejoice in another 4/3s body to use with our lenses & something that will be more affordable than the E5.
amalric
10 months ago |Makes me smile that you feel a better photographer because you have a bigger camera. Or more expensive lenses.
Am.
Nathan
10 months ago |Your tone is defiant and condescending, yet you offer nothing to this discussion. You reply to things that haven’t been said. He did not say that he was a better photographer for having a bulkier camera, you made that up of whole cloth. Either you have the reading comprehension of an orangutan with pinkeye, or you’re intentionally trying to pick a fight because it’s the in-ter-nets and you can’t get punched for it.
Go troll somewhere else.
Ross
10 months ago |Thanks Nathan, well said.
amalric
10 months ago |It cuts both ways, I suppose that you are clever enough to show a baboon’s ass that cannot be kicked over the internet(s) – LOL.
I suppose that it must be hard to own a dying mount.
You are those who argued against toy cameras, while begging for their sensors in bloated bodies
How can you even stand the ridicule of it?
Am.
Esa Tuunanen
10 months ago |Didn’t your parents punish you when you were asking for it?
You sure act exactly like those countless rotten fruits of modern free bringing up.
Ross
10 months ago |It must be sad not having any friends. You need to get a life.
Rutrem
10 months ago |so this is true also for Nikon,Canon,Pentax, the mirrorless cameras will nail them to, sooner or later…
but i think that Oly/Pana have an advantage, and this is that they are created this types of camera, and the entire line of standard 43 lenses works nice on the G series and Pens. Becouse those lenses was designed to work with contrast AF.
Does Nikon/Canon have lenses that are created for contrast AF?
If Nikon/Canon will come out with a mirrorless could u use a DX,FX,L,EF lenses with those cameras???
I think that in few years the dSLRs will be dead,especially Canon and Nikon… Pentax with K-5 have proved that a full pro body , weather sealed can be smaller then Can/Nikon behemoths, so the same way u can have a mirrorless camera of that quality.
I think that in all of this Panasonic and Sony will get the biggest part of the market. Olympus will survive as always , because of innovative cameras and great build quality.
Scott
10 months ago |actually 4/3 lenses are selling like crazy around me because of the use of the ag-af100
Robbie
10 months ago |true, and a lot of them bought SHG ones, like the 14-35mm :S
Thomas S
10 months ago |Very true! The SHG’s are out of stock almost everywhere, or sell for almost the new price second hand. Of course, it could also be the case that not so many are produced anymore.
v
10 months ago |i would buy it considering it’s significantly cheaper than the E5. if not, will keep my olympus gear, but i’m leaning on a canon t3i and two lenses.
Maciek
10 months ago |I think the E50 will be to E30 as E5 is to E3, only a minor upgrade
, old sensor, HD movies.
Scott
10 months ago |The E5 is not a minor upgrade to the E3. The image quality is far superior and the focus is so much faster and more accurate. IDK why people say its a minor upgrade. Its not the same camera at all!!
kjsdesign
10 months ago |Statistically, it is a minor upgrade. If you look and compare the specs, it’s not a huge jump. But yea, I agree, while the specs don’t back it up, I think it’s a huge improvement.
Rutrem
10 months ago |if the mirrorless cameras have the 40% of the market in Japan is not because they are useless, maybe the mirrorless camera will force the lazy asses(Canon/Nikon)to reconsider a little bit the dimensions and portability of their ridiculous gears. And maybe force them to spend some time in thinking a little bit about something new…
DonParrot
10 months ago |E-50 – why not? I only ask myself why so many people here want a sensor with more MPs when even Panny seniors have publicly admitted that marketing was the only reason for switching from 12 to 16 MP. I’d rather have a new 12MP sensor with less noise at base ISO and improved DR.
Meanwhile, I like the idea posted further up by reverse stream swimmer further up of the E-50 possibly being a kind of an experimental camera.
Perhaps it is the first Oly camera that comes with (in addition to the conventional PDAF) the new combination of CDAF and IRDAF. Now that would be something if the new AF would focus our lovely Zuikos on an FT camera as fast or even faster – and more precisely – than the PDAF.
Now, the reverse stzream swimmer made me really dream.
Up to now, I was absolutely convinced that my E-5 would defenitely be my last camera with a mirror/pentaprism, but now I’m not so sure… Even if it would most definitely be the last FT camera if it really would be able to achieve the aforementioned.
After all, a camera able to do so most definitely would give ‘The Big Ones’ the creeps. Oh how I would love that.
cL
10 months ago |I agree. People who want more pixels are so brainwashed by marketing, they don’t even know the implication of more megapixels…. Here is the implication…. More megapixels = less IQ = more crop = needs to buy a new camera 6 months later.
They already gave big ones the creep with m4/3, but now it’s time for people to realize there is such thing as 4/3, which gives an entire different level of IQ.
Ross
10 months ago |Also have to buy a new computer with faster processors, larger memory (RAM) & larger hard drive storage to be able to handle the larger file sizes. May as well get a larger monitor to see the greater detail too.
kjsdesign
10 months ago |Up until recently, I totally agreed with you, still I will not give up my E-5.
In todays digital world, we’re getting lazy, thinking that 11×14 is a large print. which is not. While I have been happy with 24″x36″ prints from my camera, heck, even my E-510, I’d be hesitant to go any larger. Merely adding pixels is useless. Adding pixels to a sensor of this size increases the possibility of noise added by heat because they can’t breathe, and decreases the dynamic range of each pixel. If Oly can add resolution, while improving on noise and DR, I would be happy, I would love to be able to produce a highly detailed piece of wall art. For the typical photographer, 10-12 is fine, but for those who want to blow up their art for print, more is better (when accompanied with the quality glass to show it off)
diehard
8 months ago |Admin, any new updates for this rumor? Thanks and keep up the good work!
juansin
8 months ago |What about the “E-50″. 2 months have passed and nothing about it!
http://juansinponte.blogspot.com/