(FT2) Photoradar says there will be three new PEN cameras (the first in April)


According to PhotoRadarOlympus plans to release a high-performance PEN camera with touchscreen technology – possibly the PEN Pro reported earlier this month – as well as a mid-range PEN camera with a tilt screen and a PEN camera with flash in the original PEN EP-1 design.” and they “were told we can expect an announcement of the mid-range PEN camera possibly as soon as April.

You already know that our sources told us there will be no(!) new PEN camera in April. We expect an Olympus announcement by end of May/early June. We are sure there will be new m43 lenses and there is also a fair chance to see he new E-P2 successor. That’s why I post the rumor with a low FT2 value. Be warned!

I got some rumors about the future cameras and lenses and I am working on it. What I can say now is that there will be many new interesting Olympus products. More about that soon on 43rumors!

Reminder: Rumors classification explained (FT= FourThirds):
FT1=1-20% chance the rumor is correct
FT2=21-40% chance the rumor is correct
FT3=41-60% chance the rumor is correct
FT4=61-80% chance the rumor is correct
FT5=81-99% chance the rumor is correct

  • Duarte Bruno

    I’ll believe it when I see it.
    I’m freaking tired of the same old low segment launch after launch :( …

  • calxn

    Oh boy, can’t wait to see Olympus’ new art filters… I mean, new innovation. Wonder if it will be the same 12mp sensor or the same 12mp sensor. Yes!!! Touchscreen, all right, when you can’t innovate, throw in a touch screen on an existing camera!

    • Boris

      Nobody would tell us what kind of sensor will be in the new PEN(s) or the new G3 cameras!
      All the rest is getting boring.

    • WT21

      Ouch! Spot on!

  • Per

    Sometimes I feel that the Olympus and Panasonic roadmaps remain – but always slides away in time :-)
    In this case probably does not want me to purchase a GH2, wait instead for the next Pen version. I have a E-P1 and a GF-1. Booth excellent in many ways, but I need a (quality)viewfinder to be able to creatively compose pictures even in strong light.

  • It’s becoming rather confusing. I simply don’t believe we will see three new PENs until December. Two are more likely (E-P2 successor with new sensor and a higher-end camera with solid build and internal EVF).
    Personally, I’m more interested in the new Olympus primes than in “touchscreen technology” and tilt screen.

  • Oly doesn’t have the new sensor => Oly shouldn’t bother releasing new cameras.

    • Chris #2 – Electric Buggaloo

      Not even if they put a TruePic V+ processor in it?

  • kEN b

    Yes lets have the GH2 with an OLY badge, Oly JPG engine and IBIS, that will do for me.

    Sensors rule digital cameras unfortunately


  • Come on… Fuji X100 is not yet available in Europe. I love my GF1 but I want better High ISO in the same form factor… Cooooome oooon!!!

  • Robbie

    We already have E-P1, E-P1 mk II, E-P1 mk III, E-P1 mk IV

    • Mr. Reeee

      Obviously there IS a tremendous need for E-P1 mks V, VI, and VII!
      No need to retire mks I – IV, ALL will available simultaneously!

  • WT21

    I would like a better Oly sensor, but I can live with the current one (honestly and truly!) But I need a better LCD, a custom function on the dial (not “hold in the fn key”) and better MF implementation. Also, weaken the AA filter ala EPL1.

    But a touch screen??? Really??? What a waste.

  • Luke

    No “professional” wants a touchscreen….and many others don’t either.

  • Pro + Touchscreen = Doesn’t Get It

    How long is it going to take the Japanese to figure out what wasn’t broken (appropriate buttons and dials)? At the high performance end of things (call it Pro, call it Enthusiast, call it Serious Amateur, call it Hobbyist, call it whatever you’d like) the primary function of a camera is to take pictures under the control of the user. Touchscreen, while great for some things ends up compromising too many of the things that a serious user takes for granted. Hey Olympus/Panasonic, if you’re reading this:

    * Camera position. Old school that worked: three point contact. New school that doesn’t work: one-hand.
    * Viewfinder. Old school that worked: optical because it allows the eyes to work as they normally do. New school that works less well: EVF/LCD because it both lags and flattens the view.
    * Controls. Old school that worked: dedicated buttons and dials that could be found without taking eye from viewfinder or finger off shutter release. New school that doesn’t work: touchscreen, because it not only requires you to look at the screen, but it compromises your hand position during shooting (even assuming “touch to shoot”).

    Note the response to the Fujifilm X100. It is old-school in all three things, yet technologically current. THAT’S a Pro design.

    That said, a touchscreen implementation for playback can be useful. But don’t assume that because you have a touchscreen built in that it should do everything.

    • Duarte Bruno

      Sorry to say this Thom, but you have just perpetuated a vision that not only is tired and old but also lost in the past. :(

      Put your camera (any camera) on a tripod and give me a miserable G2 and I’ll be running circles around you when there is a need to change the focus area. How often do PROs do that?
      I’m not even mentioning secondary shooting parameters that usually take 2,000 button presses and 400 menus to get there.
      And I’m also not mentioning video where you can now do AF pulls in the heat of the moment. Go try to do that in any other DSLR.

      I’m really tired of the anti Touch Screen police and how they think their limited use of their cameras should impair other people just because they think they are fast and prolific the way they work.

      Nothing personal as I’m sure you can see beyond the croud! ;)

      • Luke

        Maybe the admin could create a poll. You seem quite confident that everyone wants touchscreen.

        I will never own a camera with a touchscreen, I will never own a phone with a touchscreen. I had a remote control with a touchscreen and sold that. Touchscreens are a technology searching for an application. Cameras are definitely not it.

        • bilgy_no1

          People were saying the exact same thing about Live View when Olympus first introduced it to DSLRs with the E-330. Nowadays: every DSLR has Live View. And there’s a reason for it: in some circumstances, such as macro or funny angles, it is better and more convenient than an OVF (especially over a cramped on in most entry level models).

          Likewise, touch screen control is something that can have advantages over button/dial controls. They will find their place, and I’m pretty confident it’s something that will ‘trickle up’ to other models as well, if only for the image review part (slide and pinch to zoom).

          It’s also about technology adapting to new generations of photographers, and photographers making the best of new technology. Some people dig the new stuff, others don’t. It’s good we have choices about it now.

      • Miroslav


        Especially if Olympus follows Panasonic’s G2 and GH2 – those who don’t like, can turn it off.

        • Spoken like a true marketing person ;~)

          In actuality, it doesn’t work that way. People use a feature they don’t want to give them an excuse to not even look at a product. So if you promote “touchscreen” some users will punt before they even see the product. The “Enthusiast” demographic is older, male, and has a tendency to discount unknown technologies until someone can prove that it’s useful to them.

          You have to be very, very careful in marketing products. Sometimes even the mere mention of something will push people towards or away from a product. We see that with the all the “retro” comments regarding the X100. The “retro” comments are pulling that Enthusiast group in, because they think the camera works the same as they were used to in film (to a large degree it does). But lo and behold, it’s got some nifty tech in it, too. The opposite can happen, and I think has happened with the GF2. Because the touchscreen is one of the few things that Panasonic can point to as different than a GF1, and because that Enthusiast group doesn’t want touchscreen, they discount the GF2 out of the box.

      • > Put your camera (any camera) on a tripod and give me a miserable G2 and I’ll be running circles around you when there is a need to change the focus area. How often do PROs do that?

        Not nearly as often as you’d think. If I’m on a tripod, it’s also likely that I have a reasonably static camera/subject relationship.

        But you’re missing a key point. The camera the pro puts on the tripod is his high end one she already has. An m4/3 “pro” camera is going to be mostly used as the run around and shoot from the hip camera. In other words, NOT on a tripod.

        Moreover, it still doesn’t negate my point: the camera has to have the three attributes I described when it’s off the tripod. RELYING on a touchscreen would be the wrong design ethic for a high end camera, I think. That was my point.

    • Word. Well, except for point 2.

      The typical OVF on a small camera is, lets face it, not very good. And I know, because I once I started shooting film again, I stopped using my (admittedly old and decrepit) DSLR. I just couldn’t stand the VF anymore.

      A good EVF is better than a bad OVF, and the current crop are good enough, although still not as nice as a 35mm OVF.

      Still, on the whole, I really want to see what the sensor sees, not a pick-off using a mirror. I like the thought of not having to worry about misregistration between the AF module and the sensor. I like the idea of live-histograms. And I really like the idea of digital cameras finally breaking free of their film heritage, and coming into their own.

      • Don’t really disagree with that. The G12/P7000 OVF might as well not be there, they’re so bad. I’d rather have an EVF. But…a bad EVF makes you not want to really use it, so you use the color LCD instead. And I’ve still not seen an EVF that doesn’t reduce battery life significantly.

    • Per

      I agree to much of what Thom says here – but – concening the Fuji x100: It is not contemporary as it has neither a zoom lens nor interchangeable. Think of an X100 with a fixed 24-85/2,8 zoom…. Fuji made too simple for themselves!

    • AndyOz

      Agree with you on most points Thom.

      Although in the case of point 2 I think EVFs are getting better and are probably an acceptable trade-off in terms of being able to use an interchangeable lens camera in an efficient manner without the need for packaging in a mirror etc. Obviously a fixed OVF is difficult with ILC.

      • If you want to see state-of-the-art EVFs, check out high end video equipment. Those actually have things that the current still EVFs sorely need (focus confirmation, for example). Still, in pro video we tend to use two-eye techniques (right eye in the EVF, left eye open and looking at what’s going on all around). For a still camera, that would tend to mean that the EVF has to go at the left edge. Depending upon one eye solely looking through an EVF gives a slightly different view to the user, especially since depth tends to get masked.

        • Regardless, those of us who are left-eyed are in the Lurch (you rang?). And once EVF’s migrate up the still (or converged) food chain, those pro features will likely start to appear. Right now the higher end is still enamored of mirrors, and has yet to appreciate the joys of EVIL. Panasonic certainly knows how to do a proper video EVF, so I have to assume that its a matter of cost right now.

          • That’s true. Left-eyed and left-handed have long been ignored by camera makers.

    • Jules

      By an extent of that sweeping statement, the latest Phase One digital back are now gimmicky luxuries that will be shunned by real pros. Gosh, Phase One has introduced touch interface! Lets burn them on the public sphere!!

      A touch screen will not turn a pro camera into something inferior. The opposite is also very true, a touch screen will not work any miracle wonders on a piece of junk.

      What the touch interface does, how it does it and how it integrates in the overall ergonomic of the camera tell whether it is good or not. Even for pros.
      The older designs may not have been broken, but moving back 60 years ago, the designers at the time did not have any touch interface to work with, let alone extremely less controls to integrate.

      • Again, let’s speak in context. It would be rare that you use an MF body handheld. It would be rare that you mount a pocket camera on a tripod. We’re talking pocket here.

        • mahler

          We’re not talking pocket here. We are talking small, which is a significant difference. Viewing m4/3 only as something that needs to be pocketable does not do the system any justice.

          The enthusiast Olympus m4/3 camera should by no means be pocketable. It should excel in usability and ergonomics like the GH2 does.

          • Esa Tuunanen

            Stop licking butts of marketroids and start thinking yourself for once!
            G/GH’s controls and ergonomy are at best mediocre for what would be possible in that size mirrorless EVF based body.

            Like I said week ago:
            Let’s do comparison to what ergonomy and controls are possible in similar body size.
            Minolta’s top of the evolution (before dumbing down to make room for entry level DSLRs) fixed lens prosumer “compact” A2 has actually 7mm smaller body width, grip is good size for more natural position of fingers (no need to bend them hard), EVF is near enough left side so that nose doesn’t hit to body/LCD and there’s good space for controls which are better spaced and stay fully usable all the time, including while keeping camera on your eye and looking into EVF!

            GH2 is again already wider but has entry-level lousy mini grip without good space for thumb, only one control wheel, half of controls in a way too tight space where it’s basically possible to press all buttons at once and other half of controls on top where they are inaccessible while looking into unergonomically placed EVF.

            Improving body wouldn’t even make it big: Width is well enough for bigger grip size (with second control wheel), cutting one inch from marketing screen would free lots of real estate for better place for thumb and better rear controls with enough spacing, then move EVF to near left edge while in general rearranging controls so that all important shooting controls can be used while still looking into EVF.
            That would make overall size and weight only little bigger from current but ergonomy and controls would be about light year ahead of these current wannabe enthusiast bodies!

          • I’m with Esa here. I’ve never quite understood why when a maker gets something right, they abandon it so fast ;~). I think the “iterate” mantra the Japanese companies use can get out of hand sometimes. Products are both form and function, and despite a lot of experimentation with form, we’ve not had a lot of advancements there. Indeed, a lot of backwards movements.

        • Jules

          The worry should really be on how well touch interface will be integrated because quite frankly, there are there to stay.

          btw: I was starting to hope we would stop talking about “pocketable” cameras, when in fact beyond cell phones, very few are.

  • SteveD

    I think the best use of touchscreen might be the focus point. Of course, this is meaningless if you then want an EVF. Given the lag from all companies (even Nikon and Pentax) on m43 and MILCs in general, I suspect the success caught them all off guard and it’s taking a while to redirect the resources and actually solve the technical difficulties to produce new products. The X100 is Fuji’s only foray into all this and it has a fixed lens. It’s also in damned short supply, so clearly they have issues of their own.

    • Maybe. On a 3″ low-res, low-cost screen (which is what we’re basically dealing with), you have finger width and lag to deal with. Depending upon subject and motion, touch-focus can be better or worse than existing methods. It’ll take a combination of object recognition with touch to make such systems fully what we want them to be. And if you have good object recognition (e.g. Face Detect) you might not need to poke the screen at all.

      • SteveD

        I was just commenting that I think this is the best reason to have a touchscreen, which doesn’t always mean a good reason. I’ve seen these and they are not too bad. The problem is the most folks would gladly abandon the touch screen for manual controls. In addition, if you had a touch screen and an EVF, then you would almost be certainly activating the screen with your nose.

  • Kevin

    maybe in the near future cameras would just look like an iphone with a interchangeable lens in the middle. you would be using touchscreen to change P-A-S-M etc…, dialing shutter speeds & f-stop with it, autofocusing with it, and perhaps pressing the shutter with touchscreen as well. WHAT A HORROR!

    come on guys it’s only FT2 no need to take it so seriously :)

    • “using touchscreen to change P-A-S-M etc…,” – sounds like a GF2 to me! After I held it for the first time I completely forgot it has a touch screen and switching modes is a real pain without it ;)

      • Godot

        Admittedly my GF2 experience amounts to a couple of minutes’ play in a store, but I have to say the touchscreen mode selector is a big improvement over the physical mode dial.

        – it’s not a setting most of us change very often — having to pull your eye away from your subject is not going to be a frequent issue for most people. And since the virtual mode selector is in the upper left of the screen, it should be possible to learn to do find P-A-S-M by touch alone fairly quickly.
        – the mode dial is susceptible to accidental changes (more so on some cameras than others, e.g. G1 is worse than GF1 in this respect)
        – the mode dial is a breakable moving part
        – some Panasonic mode dials are cluttered with scads of useless scene-mode positions. Admittedly not an argument against mode dials in general, but still… the touch interface improves on these too

        I would happily trade the mode dials on my G1 and GF1 for touch versions.

        Likewise for the drive mode switch.

        I completely understood the outcry against the GF2’s new interface. Some of it was probably justified, and I’m not exactly rushing out to buy a GF2 here. But one big item that had people up in arms, the mode dial… sorry purists, but this is no great loss IMHO.

    • DaveLively

      Cell phones with touch screens know the difference between a face and a finger. I am sure cameras could do the same.

      In addition to selecting a focus point a touch screen could be a nice interface for menus. I can select an app on a phone quicker than I can get through menus on a camera. Instead of going into submenus you could flick between pages like an iPhone and then press the icon for the item you want to change. I still want dials for the things I change often while taking a picture but digital cameras need menus and a touchscreen could be a better way to navigate them. On a small camera there is not enough room for a lot of buttons and dials. Since some things are going to end up in a menu making it easier to get to them with a touchscreen would be nice.

      I would not want a touchscreen instead of dials but would not mind a touchscreen with a good UI in addition to the dials.

  • Nathan

    Touchscreens are horrible interfaces for everything other than kiosks and iPad. I have zero desire for a camera with a touchscreen, and can’t imagine anyone wanting a high-end camera of any kind to have one.

    The problem with touchscreens is built into the name. You TOUCH a SCREEN with your fingers. This is something many of us with regular screens battle constantly, the last thing we need is something requiring us to touch the screen.

    Are these ideas coming from focus groups? Groups of WHAT? Japanese love gadgets, even ones they don’t know how to properly use. Many ideas will go over well in Japan when they would be ludicrous to the rest of the world. Panasonic has already added a touchscreen and nearly nobody cared.

    Ironically, the one thing that could save Olympus is the one thing they will never ever have: a cutting-edge sensor with performance competitive with APS-C. It’s technically possible, because the size difference is not particularly great, but Olympus has no access to sensor fabrication. It’s making them increasingly irrelevant.

    Once in a while, I actually NEED ISO 1600 without significant noise, and I can’t have it because I chose Olympus. What I do get is in-body stabilization (can’t live without it), wireless TTL flash control (need that too) and decent ISO 200 performance.

    Pentax is looking awful nice right about now.

    • bilgy_no1

      @ Nathan:
      “Touchscreens are horrible interfaces for everything other than kiosks and iPad. I have zero desire for a camera with a touchscreen, and can’t imagine anyone wanting a high-end camera of any kind to have one.”

      The GH2 has it, and seems to be in high demand (or is it not high end enough?). Sorry to say, but maybe it just says more about your imagination?

    • No, touchscreens aren’t universally horrible (or nearly universally horrible as you suggest). Every interface has its pluses and minuses. Voice, touch, button/dial, menu, icon, etc. The trick is to use the right ones for the right jobs. That was my point. For a camera that’s going to be used as an all-around, carry-it-everywhere high-end product (m4/3 pro), I don’t think touchscreen is the correct decision. It potentially slows a slowish (focus) down further, which would prove to be a big downer for the target audience.

      For other applications, touchscreens are perfectly fine. What we’re fighting right now is that, once you put a touchscreen on a camera, the engineers want to make it do everything. That’s because a sub-design goal is to remove manufacturing complexity and parts. I have no problem with adding a touchscreen, but not if it comes at the cost of removing controls. The GF2 is a good case in point: Panasonic removed the Mode dial, which I can live with. But they also removed the frame method switch and dropped it into an overloaded button, which I don’t like as much. We also lost four buttons, two of which I found useful. I understand why they did all of this, but they’re also moving away from me as the target market when they do. I wouldn’t say the GF2 is “pro.”

      • Esa Tuunanen

        After getting touchscreen adminisphere and marketroids easily decide to remove direct controls as those controls can be easily bullet-point engineered into useless menus.
        And then PR BS department also makes that touchschreen Jesus-feature and hypes it while everything else can be done only so and so at best. (just like Apple’s overhyped capacitive touchscreen which works badly in cold environment)

        Also these oversize marketing gimmick screens eat away “real estate” from actual controls and ergonomy unless body size is increased.

  • DaveLively

    A touchscreen does not make a camera suitable for professionals but it does not exclude it. I am pretty dubious that many professionals are going to use m43 as their primary camera but “pro” seems to be another word for enthusiast these days. A touchscreen would be a nice little extra for things like selecting a focus area and playback but I cannot think of anything else it would be useful for. If we are really lucky maybe this will be a good camera but the marketing department never made it past the touchscreen. Buzzwords are easy, describing useful features can be boring.

    What I would like is a pen style camera with a built in EVF (a good one too), 3 control dials and not much if any larger than an EP-2. The 3 big variables in digital photography are aperture, shutter speed and ISO and I would like a camera that had a dial for each. Focus and zoom are also important but all lenses have rings for those functions.

    While it may not be possible to add a built in EVF to a PEN sized camera I think the 3 dials are doable. There could be 2 on the back like the EP-2. I have always thought a dedicated mode dial was a waste of what could be a very useful control. A mode button that could be used with one of the dials would be more than sufficient for selecting a mode and the dial could be used for shutter speed, exposure compensation or ISO. I would prefer a ring around the lens like the old aperture rings on film SLRs or the Canon S95 to a dial around the 4 way controller but that would have to be a lens function. Samsung has something like that on their NX cameras but I do not know how well it is implemented.

    I own an iPhone and like it but I think too many camera companies have been looking at happy iPhone users and concluding the phone is popular because of the touchscreen. A touchscreen requires a well-designed interface to be useful and is not the best choice for many things. I would hate to be writing this with a touchscreen instead of a keyboard. I also doubt Olympus could make a good touchscreen interface. I have seen Olympus menus and they are anything but intuitive and easy to use. If this camera has a touchscreen that will be fine but I think they should be concentrating on other things.

    • I own and use a gh2 as a second camera to my Olympus gear. At first I thought the touchscreen was a gimmick, but after using it, I must say it is rather nice. The focus point selection is the best use, with 10x magnification it makes manual focusing for video really convenient.

      But I must admit, my outdated, “old-sensor” E-30 still holds it’s own. I still prefer the OOC Oly colors and image to the GH2. Plus, I was totally spoiled by the Oly IBIS.

      As much as I love the video quality of the GH2, purchasing that camera makes me really long for the Olympus version. I still consider purchasing the E-5, just for the speed, sharpness and color.

      If Oly had this new Panasonic sensor, with the IBIS, Oly processing AND full 1080 24p AVCHD, in a solid, weather proof body similar to the E-5, I would buy it without question.

      • oh, and one more thing I forgot to mention:

        You have the option to disable the touchscreen feature and use buttons and knobs, instead. I really see no reason to react negatively towards the GH2 touchscreen or any prospects of future touchscreen implementations.

    • Mr. Reeee

      The iPhone and iOS devices in general are successes because of the interface, where the touchscreen is only the most obvious element. How everything integrates and how logically things are laid out and easily accessible makes a difference.

      Apple knows interfaces. Olympus has barely a clue. Panasonic is a bit better. It’s as if the people who “designed” VCR “interfaces” and those automated phone menus, suddenly got the chance to make menu-driven visual interface.

      I like the EPL2 and XZ-1, but hate the interface. The GF2 is touch interface is tolerable and a step in the right direction, if that’s the direction they’re headed. Without dedicated external dials and buttons, we’re stuck trying to make peace with crappy GUI design. No thank you. (That’s why I’ve always used Macs!)

  • Miroslav

    Waiting for that PEN with a tilt screen. If you have any info, please post it, admin. I’m not buying anything ’till I have more information on that model.

  • Duarte Bruno

    @All the members of the anti EVF Police:

    I bet your arses none of you ever tried to MF a fast lens on a modern DSLR camera equiped even with the best of OVF. I say even a miserable G1 is better by a mile and I would take one to challenge you for an accurate focus contest.

    Ever heard of WYSIWYG? None of that on the OVF…

    Just because you limit the use of your cameras, you are not the world, and someone else might be trying to push some boundaries you never have come across.

    I’m just glad that m43 is giving me the things I need to control my camera better and faster: EVF & Touch Operation.

    • Trevor

      I manual focus fast lenses all the time on a modern DSLR with far from the best OVF with just fine results, thank you. Ever heard of a split prism? Haven’t seen an EVF that can do that…

      • +1

      • Luke


      • mahler


        Most of the DSLRs aren’t equipped with a split prism ground glass. For some of them you can buy an additional focusing screen, which you may be able to change by yourself.

        Most of DSLRs have rather small and fairly dim optical view finders, whereas the EVF of a GH2 is comparatively large and bright (even with slow lenses). I think a GH2 view finder is in most aspects preferable.

        Then the “smearing issue”. After a few days you get used to it and it does not disturb you. It might be an issue for fast action photography, but there are currently other problems with m4/3 cameras (burst rates and buffer speeds) which are a more significant problem for fast photography than EVF smearing.

        The EVF has some more advantages. You can configure a GH2 so that with while touching the shutter button and turning the focus ring, the finder goes into magnification mode for manual focusing. At the same time you can use the AF lock button to switch to auto foucs temporarily. Such flexibility isn’t possible with an OVF, currently.

        The EVF technology will improve, while we haven’t seen much improvement in the qualities of DSLR OVFs.

        And I don’t think that the X100 hybrid finder concept is flexible enough to support the whole focal range of what m4/3 currently has (16 mm fish eye to 600 mm telephoto (equiv).).

        • Trevor

          Whoa there -10. Don’t get all offended. I was simply making the point that you can very well manually focus fast glass on an OVF (easily with a split prism). To say otherwise is kinda ridiculous as there were shots in focus prior to AF and EVF.

          You might want to have a doctor look at your “smearing issue.” Sounds quite nasty.

          • I’d go further. Nikon DSLRs have focus confirmation LIGHTS in the viewfinder that work perfectly well in MF. You don’t need a split prism glass (though you can get it for most any Nikon DSLR).

            I’ve got pretty much all the m4/3 bodies and all the Nikon DSLR bodies. I’ve used the same manual focus glass on both. Guess which one I focus faster with, always?

  • ILO

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    IMO Sony Vegas is the best video editor which (unlike Adobe or Pinnacle) does not put too much burden on PC. I have great results editing HD videos from E-P1 and encoding in H.264 High profile v.4.0 20 mbs in .mp4 containers To playback I also recommend MPC. Also remember that AVI clips require Computer to Studio RGB color correction (there are several Sony plugins to do that).

  • Fool

    the FIRST APRIL…

  • I honestly wouldn’t mind a touch screen – guess it can be kind of fun to use it in those social moments for AF – exactly those moments (low light, moving drunk people, no AF assist light) where my e-p2 embarrasses me sometimes when I can’t manually focus and AF fails. BUT what I would mind would be shifting controls towards the touch screen just because it’s there – but surely no sane designer would do this (I hope!) if the camera was to have a “pro” aspect to it – just like the GH2. I’m quite happy with the e-p2 controls to be honest but looking forward to seeing a dedicated metering switch – although you can assign a metering mode to the AE/AF lock button. I’m not sure if I’d swap the tilting EVF for a tilt screen, but if there was to be a built-in EVF, to me it might as well have no back screen at all. I assume that if a new PEN has a built-in EVF, it will still retain the accessory port so you should be able to use the old VF-2 anyway.

    So my hopes are that Olympus will either make “E-P3” exactly what E-P2 should have been (built-in flash, AF-assist, maybe some tweaks to controls, full HD & AVCHD) or come up with The Bomb, which is the latter plus a better sensor && AA filtering and built-in EVF. Hopes… Plus you bet your behind that they’ll force a new battery – which is not a biggie, unless you’ve invested in spares.

    Lens-wise I’m reasonably happy, with an abundance of manual glass out there, but of course a high grade portrait prime and/or a bright zoom would be a nice surprise.

    I only hope the they won’t botch controls on the next hi-end PEN. Better specs but lousy ergonomics would be a real shame. And it’s even little things that matter. For example (maybe I just have weak fingers) I really struggled with rotating the mode wheel on an E-PL1 or Canon S95, while the spring-gear type thingy on the e-p2 is perfect for me.

    • Kevin

      agreed! try rotating the epl1 wheel with an external flash attached on the hotshoe – bad ergonomic design!

      other than that I’m happy with it

      +built in EVF, AF assist, better LCD & sensor would make it golden

  • MJ

    Don’t mind a touchscreen, so long as i’m not forced to use it by leaving out too many important dedicated buttons and switches.

    Also won’t mind being able to tilt the screen upwards which can come in handy with low angles, but don’t make it swivel because that just takes up too much space, and has to be annoyingly pulled outwards before it can be tilted.

    • Miroslav

      “Also won’t mind being able to tilt the screen upwards which can come in handy with low angles, but don’t make it swivel because that just takes up too much space, and has to be annoyingly pulled outwards before it can be tilted.”

      Disagree. You can’t frame self-portraits without swivel screen.

  • marilyn

    im sure 3 new pen… it might be 3 new colors of EPL2 RED SILVER and BLUe….

  • Duarte Bruno

    Cheers Trevor! :)

    I do have heard of split prisms, in fact I installed one myself on my E-510 and even though I was lucky enough that is was cleanly aligned, MF results on fast legacy were still dismal! :( And I also had a magnifying eyecup installed. :( And I also had a chipped adapter (for MF confirmation). :(

    If you do really use one you must know that a split prism doesn’t work miracles because it will need a contrasty vertical line on the subject in order to help you with MF. Not only that but the line needs to be long enough to generate a significant doubling effect to help you get the focusing right. And it only works in good light also.
    That’s a lot of NEEDS, and BUT and ONLY and I say that because even though it helped it worked like sh*t on my E-510 when I compare results to the G! EVF or the Olympus VF2.

    If you do really use a split prism to MF on your DSLR either you have already noticed that the DOF on the OVF is much larger than the real captured DOF is going to be or you aren’t using a fast lens. So which one is it?

    Try MF at F1.4 on the split prism of someone’s portrait and then let me know how much keepers you get… :(

    Try that again indoors with available light and then let me know… :(

    So Trevor, I’m sorry to say that unless your subjects are static I just can’t believe you have good results. with it. :(

    • Trevor

      Let’s see, I’ll take as my sample body of work for accurate focus with OVFs as, oh, I don’t know, everything prior to the year 2000. Shockingly, some non-static subjects and portraits are in there!

      I’m sure in a year you’ll be arguing that you MUST have a 3D OLED EVF to focus. Good luck with that!

      • Duarte Bruno

        I try to use legacy mostly for kid portraits which is why I need fast legacy lenses for. Unfortunately your post isn’t telling me anything about your keeper rate on non static objects.

        So, either:
        a) – Your pre 2000 work was done on cameras with different OVF technology from my E-510.
        b) – You still do it these days and your current camera has a much better OVF than my E-510 (and I mean accurate DOF at fast apertures)
        c) – Your OVF is twice the size of the one on my E-510 and you aren’t not even nearly as challenged as I am.
        d) – Your keeper ratio is as bad as mine (<10%) but you shoot much more.
        e) – Your prism focus Kung Fu is Shaolin and mine is Sh*tline, and I would like to learn yours.

        Please leave some input. ;)

        Anyway what I can say is that the G1 EVF allowed me to boost my keeper ratio to ~40% (without any MF Assist) and that's one of the reasons why I stand behind EVFs. :)

        I can live without a 3D OLED EVF but the actual ones from Panasonic if fitted with focus peaking would be nearly perfect.

        • Trevor

          I’m glad the EVF works for you (so is all of m4/3 because that’s what they’re betting on), but that doesn’t mean OVF doesn’t work for others, even when focusing manually on fast glass. OVF manual focus has been done and will continue to be done for years. Don’t be (to use your term) “the anti OVF police” just because it doesn’t work for you.

  • Touchscreen???? Touchscreen??!?!

    But I NEVER turn on the screen!

  • Barton

    A PEN quality camera with a tilt screen, yes please.
    Touch-screen I could well do without.

  • Nathan

    Yeah sure, new PEN cameras right after an earthquake, a tsunami, and four nuclear meltdowns.
    Olympus isn’t going to do ANYTHING for four months. It’s not high priority when you have to dig significant portions of a country out of mud and splintered wood.
    Their factory is fine, the infrastructure to bring material and supplies around is going to be impacted, and this will cause delays. Fortunately, many of their factories are in China and elsewhere, but I believe a lot of their lens grinding is done in northern Japan, is it not?

  • richard

    What about that does 1080p, or 720 fps. perhaps more focus in video department. OLED screen.

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