(FT2) GH3 with new weather sealed 14-140mm for 1.700 Euro?

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The weeks before a camera announcement rumors of all types are floating the forums. As usual I wouldn’t care too much about them. But I am posting that particular rumor in the hope trusted sources can confirm or deny it:

Inview (personal view forum) wrote: “Today I was at a photo equipment shop and the Panasonic salesman came, I am at Athens, Greece. I asked about the GH3 release and he said about November. But about in a month he could have a sample at the shop for preview. He said 16Mp sensor and weather sealed body. I asked what lens would be the kit lens, and he said a new 14-140mm weather sealed lens. He said also a new battery grip. “They are trying to appeal to the pro market” he said. He said also the prize would be around 1700 euros. Oh well.

I never heard of a 14-140mm weather sealed lens until now but it would make sense for Panasonic to release such a lens to be able to offer a cheaper alternative of the GH3 and 12-35mm X kit (which should be priced slightly above 2.000 Euro).

Lens price comparison:
Panasonic 14-140mm at Amazon, Olympus US store, Adorama, B&H, eBay.
Panasonic 12-35mm X at Amazon, Olympus US store, Adorama, B&H, eBay.

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  • Anonymoose

    Is there anything “pro” about a 14-140 lens…?

    • Esa Tuunanen

      Leica D 14-150mm would have optical quality for that (higher than Canon EF 28-300mm L) but not Lumix G 14-140mm.

      • yes, I have it and use it with my E-M5 – ist even not really larger or heavier than the 14-140

    • Point here is this lens can use i bad weather, and it`s compact. If you need better lens, is the soon 12-35mm and 35-100mm for this.

      • mpgxsvcd

        Why would you want to use a camera in bad weather. If it is raining the water on the glass will ruin the shot anyway. I never understood weather sealing the camera. I want a weather sealed bag to carry it in because when it rains I put the camera away.

        • Incessant Troll

          well.. in retort, a lens hood could prevent that. are you an olympus user?

        • Bart

          Keeping rain away from the front element isn’t that difficult really.

          I do (among other things) event and news photography. News really isn’t going to wait for the rain to stop, neither are many events, so its a matter of having the pictures regardless of the rain, or being out-competed by someone who does.

          I know photographers who’ll be spending days in the jungle, also during the wet season. Anything that isn’t properly weather-sealed will get wet, and you aren’t going to spend those days in the jungle to just wait for the rain to stop.

          I know people who do nature photography, and who also happen to like to take pictures from behind a waterfall for example. Preventing water from getting onto the camera is going to be rather difficult to impossible, and keeping the camera in your bag won’t get the pictures.

          If you aren’t doing such things, then weather-sealing is mostly a ‘nice to have’ that can save you from rather expensive ‘accidents’, its a kind of insurance policy for most, and a mandatory feature for some.

    • Gabb3r

      Yes there is (kinda) : I know most of you photo dudes don’t like to hear about videography but the 14-140mm is very useful under certain run and gun situations. A weather-sealed version sounds nice but I would rather get the 12-35mm kit.

  • akx

    This might be true, there is two 14-140 on amazon.fr
    The one we know : http://www.amazon.fr/Panasonic-Objectif-Lumix-Vario–140/dp/B001V9KG3U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346227930&sr=8-1

    And this one at 1500 € : http://www.amazon.fr/Panasonic-Lumix-Optique-AG-AF101EJ-14-140/dp/B004RNSR10/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1346227930&sr=8-16
    It says its for the “AG-AF101EJ” (I don’t know what it is) and that it will be available soon.
    I always wondered what the hell this was, maybe this rumor is an explanation.

    • Anonymoose

      That’s a video camera. Nothing new. The price for that lens is high because there are always stupid people. Same lens as the other.

    • buongustaio

      hey hey wow easy!!! 1500€ for a weather sealed 14-140 would be a disgrace!! unless it’s a constant 1.7 :D
      i could upgrade from my battle standard 14-140 to a weather sealed one, but only if it costs up to a couple of hundreds more. nothing more :)

      • We are talking about lens + body bundle.

        Still is expensive, but not surreal. Specially if both GH3 and this new lens brings something new to the table. Weather sealing robust construct, higher optical quality, etc.

      • Mr. Reeee

        Didn’t the GH2 + current 14-140mm bundle list for $1500 (€1500)? $1700 (€1700) seems not so bad if the GH3 and a new 14-140mm have been tweaked as much as the rumors are saying.

        But who knows… ;-)

        • Seems like yesterday I paid $1000 for my old GF-1 and thought it was worth it!

  • lowlight

    Yes, it would make perfect sense to offer a weather sealed 14-140mm lens. In bad weather conditions you don’t want to have to switch lenses, and videographers could just keep this one attached to cover all likely situations. It’s particularly suitable for run & gun documentary work when there may not be time to mess around with lenses, particularly if it’s raining. Of course the question arises if image quality can be maintained over such a range, but if it’s designed to work with the GH3 then Panasonic are going to make an effort to make it a good one.

    • Esa Tuunanen

      > Of course the question arises if image quality can be maintained over such a range
      Leica D 14-150mm has corner to corner resolution characteristics at any focal length/aperture which would be very good even for 5x zoom in APS-C/35mm.

      And very well controlled distortions and vignetting for such zoom wouldn’t need much of image quality degrading processing to smooth away if necessary.

      • Anonymous

        +10

        The Leica D Vario Elmar 14-150 is really great lens .my nikon 28-300 & 18-200 dx not even close in term of color clarity contrast,.& sharpness I hope panasonic can release a firmware for this lens to improve the AF ,. Eventhough is very big on m43 body, i wouldnt mind to put on my OM-D

        • Esa Tuunanen

          Leica D 14-150mm is one of the contrast-AF compatible 4/3 lenses so I don’t think there’s much need for changes in its firmware.

          In GH2 focusing speed is decent in general for nature photography but not good. And especially lower light with lower contrast causes hunting.
          But I think lots of those problems come from camera’s performance.
          When I tried it four months ago in E-M5 focusing speed was actually competitive to E-30 all the way to 150mm, excellent IBIS no doubt helps in that.
          Then again there was also weird inability to get focus at 14mm which felt like some bug possibly in focus algorithms or interaction between it and lens. E-P3 had similar performance with focusing speed roughly similar to E-M5 and “14mm bug”.

          So try it out.

  • Anonymous

    It will be ‘Pro’ the diameter of the lens will be about 30cm will be about 45cm fully extended weighing in at about 6.4 kilo those are the disadvantages the ‘Pro’ advantage will be it’s contant aperture of f2.3.

    Happy hunting guys.

  • n457

    Hah, over 2000 eur? :D It’s my few months salary, can’t afford it :(

    • ulli

      seems you are as rich as i am.

    • That’s a few years of salary for me, for that price it’s better that it perform way better than the current micro four thirds bodies…. Nikon D3200 looks like a bargain in comparison…

  • Robbie

    Not a bad travel lens(weathersealed) for EM5!

  • Joe

    FT2 is hopeful on this! I’d give it FT0.

    A salesman in a shop in Athens knows no more than you or I. In fact, they likely know less, and are just spouting third hand information to make them seem “in the know”.

  • Stavros

    I wish they release a body only version. I dont care about any of these lenses.

  • matt

    weathersealed 14-140? with f5.6 at the end? no thanks, I want my 12-60 f2.8-f4 weathersealed lens

    • t65

      I know god forbid any company would release a dog slow weather sealed zoom lens , oops forgot about the slowest kit zoom ever made the Olympus 12-50 f6.3 at the long end lol. Or is only a problem when Panasonic do it

  • Le frog

    By “salesman” I presume the anonymous informant means “sales rep” (very common mistake, since the same word is used for both terms in Greek). The information may or may not be correct, but even if it is, bear in mind that in Greece the lowest price for the GH-2 14-42 kit (I don’t know if the more expensive 14-140 kit is available) is still 969 euros, so the price he quoted might be totally irrelevant for the rest of the world.

  • Lil Jerk Kid

    Le Frog,

    Regarding the word “salesman” it shoud be noted that in the Englsh language the masculine subsumes the feminine.

    • Le frog

      Lil Jerk Kid

      I don’t get your point. Perhaps I was not very clear, but what I meant is that in Greek, the term “πωλητης” (feminine “πωλητρια”), meaning “salesman”, is commonly used not only for shop assistants, but also for a company’s sales representative (in trade circles the term “εμπορικός αντιπρόσωπος” is used for sales representatives – which is not technically correct, because, strictly, in commercial law the term “εμπορικός αντιπρόσωπος” means “commercial agent”). Bottom line: The anonymous Greek informant claims that he got the information from somebody working for the Greek distributor of Panasonic, who happened to be visiting the camera shop, but by using the generic term “salesman” he gave the impression that he got the info from a shop assistant. Now, would a lowly sales rep really possess that kind of info, or did he just say “If I were you mate, I would just grab the GH2, because the GH5 with 14-140 weather sealed lens you are hoping for is months away and likely 50% more expensive”? Your guess is as good as mine.

      • ED

        So the GH3 will be called GH5??

  • Incessant Troll

    in all seriousness the 14-140 kit should be 2500 euro and the 12-35 should be 3500 just to make sure there is enough production capacity

    • Le frog

      Lil Jerk Kid

      I don’t get your point. Perhaps I was not very clear, but what I meant is that in Greek, the term “πωλητης” (feminine “πωλητρια”), meaning “salesman”, is commonly used not only for shop assistants, but also for a company’s sales representative (in trade circles the term “εμπορικός αντιπρόσωπος” is used for sales representatives – which is not technically correct, because, strictly, in commercial law the term “εμπορικός αντιπρόσωπος” means “commercial agent”). Bottom line: The anonymous Greek informant claims that he got the information from somebody working for the Greek distributor of Panasonic, who happened to be visiting the camera shop, but by using the generic term “salesman” he gave the impression that he got the info from a shop assistant. Now, would a lowly sales rep really possess that kind of info, or did he just say “If I were you mate, I would just grab the GH2, because the GH5 with 14-140 weather sealed lens you are hoping for is months away and likely 50% more expensive”? Your guess is as good as mine.

    • peevee

      “in all seriousness the 14-140 kit should be 2500 euro and the 12-35 should be 3500 just to make sure there is enough production capacity”

      Well, if they pay kickbacks for corporate purchases, the more the merrier. ;)

      Then there are a few idiots who pay $1300 for m43 12-35/2.8, $900 for 45/2.8 etc. Always good to have that nice 1000% mark up. ;)

  • wow, more than 2000 euro for the GH3 12-35 kit, that’s pretty expensive if you ask me. If the camera is 1000 euro, 15-1600 euros would be a good deal if they are hoping to offer better value then the OMD.

    I was shooting with with my G5 yesterday with the 7-14mm, and I was very pleased. There is no raw support yet (right?) but I thought the DR looked much improved over the G1.

    Christian
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/purecinema

    • buongustaio

      that would be a great price, i would grab it without even thinking 1 sec!!!

    • JF

      1500 euros was the price of GH1+14-140 and also the one of GH2+14-140 I think (not sur for the latter…)at launch. So it’s not reallistic to believe that GH3 (which is supposed to be “pro” veather sealed etc) + 12-35mm will be 1500 or 1600 euros…around 2000 seems more reallistic !

    • ianalex

      Lightroom 4 has just been updated and this update includes support for the G5 raw files.

      • Thank you, ianalex, hopefully that means Aperture and LR3 has been updated too. Will be interesting to see how the DR of the G5 compares to the X2..

        • Diane B

          ChristianG, LR3 will never be updated with new cameras. You will have to buy the upgrade to LR4 to get newer camera support (and the upgrades to 4.1/4.2 are free–actually 4.2 is an RC).

          Diane

          • Mr. Reeee

            The Lightroom 4 upgrade is worth every cent! I think it was $50.

            Often they’re giving special prices for new/full licenses when buying a new camera, so sniffing around for those sorts of deals is really worthwhile.

            The highlight and shadow recovery abilities are amazing.

            • Sounds great, Mr.Reese. I just realized it was LR4 that came with the X2, but I still havent downloaded it. Will try tomorrow and give it a try :)

              Thanks for the heads up, Diane :)

    • peevee

      “wow, more than 2000 euro for the GH3 12-35 kit, that’s pretty expensive if you ask me.”

      Yep, you can have real pro 24 mpix 12 fps APS-C Sony A77 with 16-50/2.8 for $1800. But who counts. ;) Looks like Panasonic got a Leica virus from their extramarital affairs. ;)

  • Platinium

    And what about 14-140 f.3.5? or f.4, X-lens with MEGA OIS ? That would be beast…

  • st3v4nt

    Looks like the current race among m4/3 producer is not achieving the highest quality of image anymore but who can lead in releasing the most expensive camera and lens.

    • ulli

      seems you have been living in a cave lately, because the current most expensive m43 body & lens ARE the best in IQ sofar.

  • Max

    Whos taking a Gh-3 out in the rain?

    • ulli

      not necessarily rain, but how about dusty environments, or the beach?

      • mpgxsvcd

        It still doesn’t protect against the dust/sand from scratching the glass. I still really don’t understand the need for weather sealing.

        • bart

          A simple filter can stop sand from scratching the front element of the lens, besides, if you simply blow off the sand instead of trying to rub it off, the chance on damaging the front element is rather small.

          I am one of those people who takes his cameras out in the rain, since ‘news’ really isn’t going to wait for the rain to stop, and it so happens that I do news pictures (among other things)

          There are many more situations where weather sealing is really useful.

    • I absolutely would. Question is, is it sealed to the standards of Olympus?

  • The hybrid focusing systems are coming—will the GH3 have this?

    • Narretz

      No … it looks like Olympus and Panasonic fell asleep when the others decided this was a good idea. Or they are waiting to prepare something more substantial.

  • peevee

    At that price, they are going after corporate accounts, right?

  • Aperture

    Please have a look to the new “function slider” in the G5 (next to the shutter). With this slider the user is able to control Aperture (pro feature) or zoom function (consumer feature). Currently the zoom control feature earns a good acceptance in most of the G5 discussion threads …
    … but zoom control function is only supported by power zooms! So there is a need for Panasonic to release more power zooms.

    Just add a weatherseal and power zoo to existing lens, place X label to it and increase priing. Voila! The margin will be better

    • Esa Tuunanen

      > Please have a look to the new “function slider” in the G5 (next to the shutter).
      That’s no replacement for front dial.
      Both front and rear dials are basic features of every single above entry level DSLR and mirrorless should follow that tried and proven concept.

  • I wonder how many GH2/14-140 owners will choose to wait for the body only (I will)? and how soon will Panasonic offer a body-only option?

    • HMR

      I hope that they will have two kits like they did with the GH2 (in the US, anyway) and I also hope that one of them is with the 12-35. That will make the decision easy for me. The body only would be nice too but there is usually value in the kit pricing.(at least originally)
      The original 14-140 is a very nice “do it all good enough” lens. I will often use it if I have plenty of light and only want to carry one lens. It’s very versatile.

  • inviev

    Hallo everyone.

    I original wrote that at the personal view forum. Actually my userid is “inviev” not “inview” which is nicer. lol

    When I said “Panasonic salesman” I meant a rep from the distribution company, as correctly pointed by a fellow member of this forum.

    What has been quoted in the original post is correct.

    When I will have something new, I will let you know.

    Thanks.

  • Problem. I just visited my local camera shop and they will no longer stock Panasonic cameras. Why? Because it’s too hard to work with the distributor and get anything on the shelf. Apparently, Panasonic does not care much about USA sales. And really, they haven’t for a long time. So I can’t even handle a G5 or any other Lumix camera before buying.

    Right now I still want a GH3…. but maybe I will change my mind.

  • Anonymous

    so it’s time to sell the 14-140?
    :D

  • Gary

    I’d buy it.

  • Chris

    Why would anyone want to have a weather sealed lens to gh3??
    The gh3 is not weather sealed itself to begin with! It is splash safe.. Means nothing more. Than if you drop cup of coffee at it while editing at your desk with it, the camera won’t most Likely brake down… That is not the same as a weather proved D5….
    The gh3 cannot be used for any professional use in tough or rough nature or the like.anyone tried using the gh3 in rain, in high heat/humidity, in snow and cold?
    Seriously!
    Have you?
    Tell me about how that worked out! I am dying to know!
    Did the LCD screen brake off, did the rain short circuit it? Did the hotshue fall off?
    Etc,… Those are common problems with an amateur camera…
    Tell me where you been with your gh3 body before you tell me you want a weather prof lens to a toy!

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